Things that didn't make sense in-universe

[Sshadow5001]

Mr Satan ain't that weak is he? Maybe he is stronger than the likes of Namu and King Chappa.

[Kamiccolo9]

Mr Satan ain't that weak is he? Maybe he is stronger than the likes of Namu and King Chappa.

Roshi considered Chappa to be a threat, and Namu was able to fight against Goku, after training with Roshi. Mr. Satan is nowhere near that level of strength.

[Saiga]

That's right, he's far, far above it, able to take blows from Cell. Sure, Cell wasn't serious, but neither were the Cell juniors when they broke Yamcha's arm! So clearly, to have no broken limbs, Satan > Yamcha.

[Kamiccolo9]

That's right, he's far, far above it, able to take blows from Cell. Sure, Cell wasn't serious, but neither were the Cell juniors when they broke Yamcha's arm! So clearly, to have no broken limbs, Satan > Yamcha.

Psh. Satan took blows from Pure Buu. Clearly he could have beaten Cell if his stomach problems hadn't intervened.

[Sshadow5001]

Ok not as strong as King Chappa but still he's pretty strong and fast in comparison to most.

[Saiga]

That's right, he's far, far above it, able to take blows from Cell. Sure, Cell wasn't serious, but neither were the Cell juniors when they broke Yamcha's arm! So clearly, to have no broken limbs, Satan > Yamcha.

Psh. Satan took blows from Pure Buu. Clearly he could have beaten Cell if his stomach problems hadn't intervened.

Oh, I was speaking of the weakened Mr Satan. We can't accurately gauge his strength if not for his stomach problems or compassion holding him back, it's just too great.

[jjgp1112]

None of them want to deal with all that fame, so in a way Mr. Satan is a lifesaver for them.

Yeah, in case it wasn't clear, I wasn't taking issue with the fact that Gohan and co. don't take credit. Rather, it's because they obviously aren't interested in taking credit that it makes perfect sense for the general public to believe Mister Satan defeated Cell/Boo. Nobody's making any competing claims, so why shouldn't they believe Satan?

If Dragon Ball were made in recent times I assume Mr. Satan wouldn't have anything even approaching the blind, universal praise. There would probably be shrewd observers making numerous websites pointing out all of the logic holes in his "feats."

I'm not really sure what you mean, since DB isn't set in the real world.

I meant that if Toriyama were writing it now, he would probably apply modern technology and culture like the internet and stuff to it.

[RandomGuy96]

That's right, he's far, far above it, able to take blows from Cell. Sure, Cell wasn't serious, but neither were the Cell juniors when they broke Yamcha's arm! So clearly, to have no broken limbs, Satan > Yamcha.

Psh. Satan took blows from Pure Buu. Clearly he could have beaten Cell if his stomach problems hadn't intervened.

He actually dodged one of Pure Buu's blows too, and Pure Buu looked angry when Mister Satan hit him (with a rock). Pure Buu also felt threatened enough by Mister Satan that he temporarily diverted his attention from Mr. Buu to smack Satan away, which let Mr. Buu land another hit. Mister Satan > SS2 Vegeta at the very least.

[Hellspawn28]

Oh boy, here we go again with the Cell Games Truthers.

FFS, take off your tinfoil hats. Mr. Satan beat Cell.

You're the same as the people who asked to see King Furry's birth certificate.

It would be interesting if the Earth's government found the space ship in the Dragon Ball universe. I remember a group of people found Nappa's space pod before Bluma blew it up with the remote from what I can remember.

[RandomGuy96]

The whole Freeza arc is a plot hole. Freeza and co can't exist, because Vegeta, who was supposed to have known about them, referred to himself as the strongest being in the universe in the Saiyan Saga. This wasn't a boast or anything, he was thinking to himself ("How could I, the best in the universe, be beaten by a low class warrior!?" or something like that).

[penguintruth]

We can lie to ourselves, too.

[Saiga]

Yeah, that's a huge one. The best rationalization I can have for that (that still doesn't make a whole lot of sense) is that Vegeta was thinking about Saiyans, since he's the best Saiyan to have ever lived ignoring EU stuff.

[Kid Buu]

The whole Freeza arc is a plot hole. Freeza and co can't exist, because Vegeta, who was supposed to have known about them, referred to himself as the strongest being in the universe in the Saiyan Saga. This wasn't a boast or anything, he was thinking to himself ("How could I, the best in the universe, be beaten by a low class warrior!?" or something like that).

I still want an explanation on why Freeza is like 1000x stronger than everyone else, or a real backstory.

[Hades]

Speaking of, why did Vegeta constantly refer to himself as the Prince of all Saiyans, when there is no throne to claim?

[Kid Buu]

Because he has the mentality of a 5 year old and takes pride in stupid shit.

[Hades]

Because he has the mentality of a 5 year old and takes pride in stupid shit.

That's one thing I liked about the old dub when Goku finally says "Vegeta, listen to yourself! The Saiyans are all dead." before they fuse. It's nice to see someone blathering about extinct pride somehow being relevant 100% of the time having a pail of cold water splashed in their face.

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Another one. Goku turns into the Avatar of Kali when Freeza makes him watch Krillin blow up, yet when it comes round to Buu (Evil incarnate in all but name, who had turned his own sons against him, been even more sadistic towards his friends and family - seriously, even Freeza didn't devour his enemies, and actually blew up his home planet), he's all "we had fun, hope to see you again.

Meanwhile, Vegeta didn't break down against Buu like he did against Freeza, even though he had suffered similar humiliations to goku.

[Zestanor]

What didn't make sense in universe? The time travel. It was good at first, but then it started breaking down when Cell discussed his origins with Trunks.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

How did everyone forget who Goku was... OR PICCOLO?? Did everybody just forget about that evil green demon with the cape on, destroying cities, flying around causing mayhem??

Or how about people using Ki in the form of blasts in the other tournaments in DB? It's like right as soon as Hercule came into the picture, suddenly the previous 23 tournaments just flat out never happened..... Although I do commend Videl for at least recalling these events and having doubts.

And yes, it's rather ridiculous that the majority of the population believe Hercule beat Cell when he was captured on FILM being shot right into that hill after Cell slapped him like a ho...

"I LOST MY FOOTING" -

[Herms]

How did everyone forget who Goku was... OR PICCOLO?? Did everybody just forget about that evil green demon with the cape on, destroying cities, flying around causing mayhem??

Well, the first Piccolo got defeated. Then the second one declares his identity at the tournament and blows up a chunk of the island, but after that he apparently causes no further public disturbances. The public probably just assumed he was killed at the tournament.

Goku was just a dude who did really well at three tournaments. In the manga nobody ever learns that he was the boy who defeated Piccolo (the anime filler screws this up though), and he never took credit for defeating the Red Ribbon Army or anything. The public never knew anything about the Saiyan invasion, besides that a city was mysteriously destroyed (again, anime filler kinda messes this up). They obviously knew nothing about what happened on Namek. What are they supposed to remember him for, really?

Or how about people using Ki in the form of blasts in the other tournaments in DB? It's like right as soon as (the H-word) came into the picture, suddenly the previous 23 tournaments just flat out never happened..... Although I do commend Videl for at least recalling these events and having doubts.

That part's a little silly, but again those three tournaments had a vastly smaller audience than the ones with Mister Satan. Obviously nobody who won those earlier tournaments got famous for it. Tenshinhan's no celebrity. Devilman won two tournaments, and Kuririn and co. had never even heard of him! It seems that before Mister Satan became super famous, the Tenkaichi Budokai was only of concern to martial arts enthusiasts. Satan's clout as savior of the world is what seems to have really pushed it to something that received a lot of attention. I don't think we even see anyone filming those first three tournaments in the manga, though the announcer's commentary was shown to be broadcast over the radio. Most people never got to see the ki attacks at those tournaments, so it's not too odd for them to write off wild tales (and radio recordings) of martial artists using fancy laser beam attacks as just tricks and showmanship.

Kame-sennin blowing up the moon probably should have caused slightly more public discussion, though.

And yes, it's rather ridiculous that the majority of the population believe (the H-word) beat Cell when he was captured on FILM being shot right into that hill after Cell slapped him like a ho...

Yeah, but the day after the Cell Games, Cell is gone and never seen again, Gohan and co. disappear from the public eye completely, while Mister Satan is still around and talking all about how he defeated Cell. What are people supposed to think?

Another one. Goku turns into the Avatar of Kali when Freeza makes him watch Krillin blow up, yet when it comes round to Buu (Evil incarnate in all but name, who had turned his own sons against him, been even more sadistic towards his friends and family - seriously, even Freeza didn't devour his enemies, and actually blew up his home planet), he's all "we had fun, hope to see you again.

Well, in the end Goku spared Freeza's life and helped him get away (largely because he wanted a rematch rather than out of purely humanitarian motives, but still). He was really only all wrathful and whatnot immediately after first becoming a Super Saiyan.

[mAcChaos]

I never thought he wanted a rematch from Freeza. He truly detested him. It was more like he just wanted him to stew in his humiliation.

For Vegeta though, Freeza had way more personal significance to him than Buu, even if Buu was stronger. What's going to rattle you more, getting beaten by your Dad or some random guy on the street?