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Re: Characters never named
Well having watched some early DragonBall recently (the Daimao Arc to be specific), the anime has a scene of Brief calling the cat Tama, though this may be filler.
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Yes, that is filler. Blooma's family does not appear in the original Piccolo arc at all.
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Tama ("Ball") is a generic name for pet cats, so "Scratch" is a pretty direct English adaptation.
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I believe it was referred to as "Tama" (a pretty common cat-name, all things considered) in background materials for the anime. Toriyama based its appearance on his cat Koge, though.Blade wrote:Doctor Briefs' Cat is never named, is it?
I know in the dub it's referred to as 'Scratch', and that the fandom has given it various names over the years, but Toriyama himself never has - or has he?
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I only want to know the name of Katatz's son. Then I'll be able to die in peace.
Didn't we have something BoG related that had character profiles, and one of those had "Mr. & Mrs. Brief"?VegettoEX wrote:You're falling for the trap of "Brief is the last name, right?" Considering that Videl makes it a point to say that most people out their way don't have surnames, and Dr. Brief & family are more out their way than they are Goku's way, it's far more likely that his given name is "Brief" with no family/surname to speak of. Therefore, she's not "Mrs. Brief"... and, of course, she's only ever referred to as "Bulma's mother" as far as I can remember, so there's no "Mrs. Brief" to confuse that fact.Deep Thought wrote:For that record, does Dr. Brief have a first name? Or his wife, Mrs. Brief? I seem to recall that Bulma was the only one in the family with an actual first name.
So it's Brief (dad), the mother (no name given in the series, possibly "Panty" according to Toriyama interview), Bulma, and Tights!
Isn't #8 classified as a human-based in the Daizenshuu, while Toriyama recently classified him as a robot?TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Gyumao and #8 come to mind.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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There was something like that, but it was a translation of something that can also just mean "Brief and his wife".Didn't we have something BoG related that had character profiles, and one of those had "Mr. & Mrs. Brief"?
No, I don't think so. Unless I missed something.Isn't #8 classified as a human-based in the Daizenshuu, while Toriyama recently classified him as a robot?
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*Checks*Herms wrote:No, I don't think so. Unless I missed something.Isn't #8 classified as a human-based in the Daizenshuu, while Toriyama recently classified him as a robot?
Yep, I'm correct.
Daizenshuu 4 wrote:Biotechnological-type Artificial Humans
01 ~ Artificial Human No. 8
A human-based artificial human developed early on by Doctor Gero. "Hacchan" is the pet name that Goku gave him. He has no big special features outside of his superhuman strength and strong build. He has a timid and gentle personality. Though he won't fight when he himself is in danger, once he's angered he unleashes his true power. All artificial humans after No. 8 were built for the purpose of defeating Goku.
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James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Ironically, #16 has the reverse issue, in that he was always classified as a robot, yet Toriyama recently classified him as a human-based.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Isn't #8 classified as a human-based in the Daizenshuu, while Toriyama recently classified him as a robot?
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No, Toriyama said that his design is based on his son, not that he made his son an Artificial Human.Marco Polo wrote:Ironically, #16 has the reverse issue, in that he was always classified as a robot, yet Toriyama recently classified him as a human-based.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Isn't #8 classified as a human-based in the Daizenshuu, while Toriyama recently classified him as a robot?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Then what makes you think #8 is not 100% robot with a design based on a human?DBZGTKOSDH wrote:No, Toriyama said that his design is based on his son, not that he made his son an Artificial Human.Marco Polo wrote:Ironically, #16 has the reverse issue, in that he was always classified as a robot, yet Toriyama recently classified him as a human-based.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Isn't #8 classified as a human-based in the Daizenshuu, while Toriyama recently classified him as a robot?
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That's not what I mean by saying "human-based", and neither is Daizenshuu. What the Daizenshuu means is that Dr. Gero took a human, and converted him into a Biotechnological-type Artificial Human, as he did with #17 & #18. However, Toriyama says that every Artificial Human, from #1 to #16, plus #19, was entirely artificially constructed.Marco Polo wrote:Then what makes you think #8 is not 100% robot with a design based on a human?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Your Daizenshuu quote simply says "A human-based artificial human developed early on by Doctor Gero." Human-based can easily mean that it's modelled after a human but 100 % mechanical, especially since it's a translation.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:That's not what I mean by saying "human-based", and neither is Daizenshuu. What the Daizenshuu means is that Dr. Gero took a human, and converted him into a Biotechnological-type Artificial Human, as he did with #17 & #18. However, Toriyama says that every Artificial Human, from #1 to #16, plus #19, was entirely artificially constructed.Marco Polo wrote:Then what makes you think #8 is not 100% robot with a design based on a human?
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He's under the category "Biotechnological-Type Artificial Humans", which has #17, #18, and Cell, not under "Mecha-Type Artificial Humans", which has #16, #19, and #20.Marco Polo wrote:Your Daizenshuu quote simply says "A human-based artificial human developed early on by Doctor Gero." Human-based can easily mean that it's modelled after a human but 100 % mechanical, especially since it's a translation.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.




