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Re: Who do you think deserved to claim a villain?

Post by Mystic Tien » Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:48 pm

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EXBadguy wrote:As much as the Vegeta fanboys are being annoying right now, I still wish Vegeta'd been the one. Another one would be Tenshinhan.
Yeeeaaaahhh... no.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
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Re: Who do you think deserved to claim a villain?

Post by sintzu » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:20 pm

EXBadguy wrote:As much as the Vegeta fanboys are being annoying right now, I still wish Vegeta'd been the one.
What are they mad about ? Vegeta got the final battle and was able to defeat Freeza.

Sure Goku killed him but is that really a big deal compared to the above ? Freeza was already defeated which is something all Vegeta fans should be happy about.

Would they have wanted it to be like the Ginyu force where Goku gets the great action and Vegeta comes in after and kills him when he's down ?

And if that happens then other fans will be saying he should have been the one to get to fight him so no matter how it was written there will still be fans who don't like it.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:16 pm

I definitely agree Vegeta should the one to slay Freeza. He's deserves it right now.

On a side-note, I think Chi-Chi should at least have a shot at Freeza's grunts if Roshi, who she was officially confirmed to be on par with in the 23rd Budokai in his relaxed state, gets to. Maybe then people would stop dismissing her as weak (they probably still would) and dipshit Videl-glorifiers would stop saying Miss. Can't-do-fast-flurries-without-getting-exhausted-and-got-injured-by-a-bullet could beat her (they probably still would).
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Re: Who do you think deserved to claim a villain?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:14 pm

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EXBadguy wrote:As much as the Vegeta fanboys are being annoying right now, I still wish Vegeta'd been the one.
What are they mad about ? Vegeta got the final battle and was able to defeat Freeza.
See, now it's funny because it's April Fool's Day.
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Re: Other characters who should final blow a baddie(FnF Spoi

Post by FortuneSSJ » Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:24 pm

-About FnF-
- Bring Roshi to the battlefield and leave Yamcha behind like he is a kid, was a dick move. We could have see him beat some Freeza soldiers with his classic rogafufuken and Sokidan.
- Vegeta should have been the one to kill Freeza.
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Re: Other characters who should final blow a baddie(FnF Spoi

Post by KameRule » Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:37 pm

It would be cool if a villain were to come to Earth, wreck shit up, and Goku were to beat them and decide to let them go, and if Kuririn were to, against Goku's wishes, pull a Kienzan and kill them out of spite.

Or at least I think.
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Re: Other characters who should final blow a baddie(FnF Spoi

Post by Mystic Tien » Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:10 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:I definitely agree Vegeta should the one to slay Freeza. He's deserves it right now.

On a side-note, I think Chi-Chi should at least have a shot at Freeza's grunts if Roshi, who she was officially confirmed to be on par with in the 23rd Budokai in his relaxed state, gets to. Maybe then people would stop dismissing her as weak (they probably still would) and dipshit Videl-glorifiers would stop saying Miss. Can't-do-fast-flurries-without-getting-exhausted-and-got-injured-by-a-bullet could beat her (they probably still would).
Hey, don't insult Videl's fans. I am her big fan, yet I think that she is very weak. And frankly I don't care. For me to like some character, he/she doesn't need to be strong.
FortuneSSJ wrote:-About FnF-
- Bring Roshi to the battlefield and leave Yamcha behind like he is a kid, was a dick move. We could have see him beat some Freeza soldiers with his classic rogafufuken and Sokidan.
- Vegeta should have been the one to kill Freeza.
I think, it is because Yamcha is very unpopular now, and a lot of fans treat him as a joke.
KameRule wrote:It would be cool if a villain were to come to Earth, wreck shit up, and Goku were to beat them and decide to let them go, and if Kuririn were to, against Goku's wishes, pull a Kienzan and kill them out of spite.

Or at least I think.
I wonder why they never used Kienzan to finish a main villain.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.

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Re: Other characters who should final blow a baddie(FnF Spoi

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:34 pm

Mystic Tien wrote:Hey, don't insult Videl's fans. I am her big fan, yet I think that she is very weak. And frankly I don't care. For me to like some character, he/she doesn't need to be strong.
I didn't mean to insult Videl fans in general. I actually like Videl even more than Chi-Chi but I think it's mind-bindingly ridiculous people would even think she would be a threat to let alone beat any 21st-23rd Tenkaichi Budokai finalist that's not Pamputt or Ranfan, or be a Z-level fighter (one guy even seriously tried to claim she's even stronger than Raditz) when her feats are drastically worse than almost any fighter with a name. Same thing with Mr. Satan (though it's to a lesser extent). Or maybe I'm just bitter over one guy starting a HUGE argument for me casually throwing in an opinion that Chi-Chi would win in a fight regardless of the fact Videl has flight?
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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Re: Who do you think deserved to claim a villain?

Post by sintzu » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:45 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:See, now it's funny because it's April Fool's Day.
I agree,this will be very entertaining to see.
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Re: Other characters who should final blow a baddie(FnF Spoi

Post by Saiga » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:00 am

FoolsGil wrote:Toriyama should do it lie Oda: Give each protagonist an antagonist above their level(from slightly above, to game breaker) to overcome. No more Saiyans butting in on fights, or all opponents at a level only a Saiyan can defeat.
I disagree. There's really no need to give everyone their own opponent and one-on-one fight, and with how large the cast is that would eat up too much time. There's also the problem of the weaker character's fights seeming really unimportant because if they win or lose it's not going to affect much in the long run.

Also, Oda only really ever did that once in Enies Lobby. And even then Robin still didn't have an opponent.
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Re: Who do you think deserved to claim a villain?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:57 am

sintzu wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:See, now it's funny because it's April Fool's Day.
I agree,this will be very entertaining to see.
To bad that he did it to an exhausted Freeza that couldn't even phase Goku, after being too scared to fight Freeza at full strength.

I suppose Vegeta should run around kicking some puppies too. It's fine as long as he stands over them and proclaims himself "Prince of All Saiyans" every time he knocks one over. That's actually a more interesting use of the character than anything Toriyama did with him in the Cell and Buu Arcs.
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Re: Other characters who should final blow a baddie(FnF Spoi

Post by Mystic Tien » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:03 pm

Saiga wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:Toriyama should do it lie Oda: Give each protagonist an antagonist above their level(from slightly above, to game breaker) to overcome. No more Saiyans butting in on fights, or all opponents at a level only a Saiyan can defeat.
I disagree. There's really no need to give everyone their own opponent and one-on-one fight, and with how large the cast is that would eat up too much time. There's also the problem of the weaker character's fights seeming really unimportant because if they win or lose it's not going to affect much in the long run.

Also, Oda only really ever did that once in Enies Lobby. And even then Robin still didn't have an opponent.
And Usopp didn't have as well. Chopper also completely lost, and had to use his oozaru monster form to defeat his opponent. To be honest, it seems that Oda completely got rid of this formula, and we barely have any one-on-one fights. I don't like it, and I don't like how fights in overall are written in current One Piece, so I don't want for Oda to write a script for an new DBZ movie or OVA.
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Mystic Tenshinhan wrote:Hey, don't insult Videl's fans. I am her big fan, yet I think that she is very weak. And frankly I don't care. For me to like some character, he/she doesn't need to be strong.
I didn't mean to insult Videl fans in general. I actually like Videl even more than Chi-Chi but I think it's mind-bindingly ridiculous people would even think she would be a threat to let alone beat any 21st-23rd Tenkaichi Budokai finalist that's not Pamputt or Ranfan, or be a Z-level fighter (one guy even seriously tried to claim she's even stronger than Raditz) when her feats are drastically worse than almost any fighter with a name. Same thing with Mr. Satan (though it's to a lesser extent). Or maybe I'm just bitter over one guy starting a HUGE argument for me casually throwing in an opinion that Chi-Chi would win in a fight regardless of the fact Videl has flight?
I have the exact same problem with people, but I guess some of them didn't see the whole original Dragon Ball, or forgot it, so they tend to think because of that that Videl is really strong, while she isn't.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.

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Re: Other characters who should final blow a baddie(FnF Spoi

Post by Scott » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:18 pm

What is this obsession lately with Vegeta having a big moment ?

Vegeta has had plenty of moments throughout DBZ. Before the Ginyu Force arrived on Namek, everything was going well for him. He killed Cui, Dodoria, Zarbon and a whole bunch of Frieza's henchman. Then in the Android Arc he killed android 19 and beat the crap out of imperfect Cell. Also, if it wasn't for Vegeta, Gohan would never have beaten Cell. He also killed Pui Pui and was involved in one of the fights of the series with Goku as Majin Vegeta.

EDIT: I forgot, he also killed, Recoome, Burter and Jeice and beat up captain Ginyu when Ginyu was in Goku's body.

I think it's fair to say that we have seen enough of Vegeta killing off the baddies.

My choice would be Piccolo, he's such an awesome character but ends up losing pretty much every fight he get's involved in.

I would also love Yamcha to finish someone off too, i'm tired of him being the joke of the series.

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