"Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:13 am

Random note: Dragon Ball Super Episode #1 is the first Dragon Ball Episode #1 since the 1986 series to not have new key animation from Shida Naotoshi. Damn, broke the record too soon! :P

September or October should see a few other animators become available. With Episode of Sabo airing in August I'm sure there's a plethora of animators unavailable.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:52 am

I wish they weren't doing another "Episode of" so soon after Super started. I do like OP, but it's stuff like this that makes me resent Toei for consistently biting off more than they can chew. I liked Luffy's flashback arc, but there's no way I'll be able to enjoy Episode of Sabo knowing it's sucking away skilled resources that could go to Super.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Araki » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:06 pm

Chuquita wrote:I wish they weren't doing another "Episode of" so soon after Super started. I do like OP, but it's stuff like this that makes me resent Toei for consistently biting off more than they can chew. I liked Luffy's flashback arc, but there's no way I'll be able to enjoy Episode of Sabo knowing it's sucking away skilled resources that could go to Super.
But Toei is a huge studio, some animation houses go to hell if they try to make three short series at once. It would've been worse if the One Piece special was a movie, these ones are not that big to do such damage, even the One Piece anime is doing well lately, and i believe Super will be above it in their priorities list.

As for Naotoshi Shida, we have to take into account that he is naturally a more experienced and skillful key animator now than he was 30 or 20 years ago, so there was no reason to waste him so soon, especially when the little action the first episode had was done in a competent enough way.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:09 pm

Araki wrote:
Chuquita wrote:I wish they weren't doing another "Episode of" so soon after Super started. I do like OP, but it's stuff like this that makes me resent Toei for consistently biting off more than they can chew. I liked Luffy's flashback arc, but there's no way I'll be able to enjoy Episode of Sabo knowing it's sucking away skilled resources that could go to Super.
But Toei is a huge studio, some animation houses go to hell if they try to make three short series at once. It would've been worse if the One Piece special was a movie, these ones are not that big to do such damage, even the One Piece anime is doing well lately.

As for Naotoshi Shida, we have to take into account that he is naturally a more experienced and skillful key animator now than he was 30 or 20 years ago, so there was no reason to waste him so soon, especially when the little action the first episode had was done in a competent enough way.
I was so relieved when I found out the One Piece announcement wasn't a movie.

Actually I do have some hope for people being freed up because:
1) Crystal is ending a few weeks from now. I want some of the people who worked on #25 to work on Super. There's some beautiful shots there: http://uchiyo-oujo.tumblr.com/post/1232 ... usually-do
2) Only 1/3rd of this year's annual Precure Movie is going to be 2D animation; the other 2/3rds will be CGI.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:50 am

So. Yeah. The magazines are out. Staff time, gentlemen.
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第2話 約束のリゾートへ!べジータが家族旅行!?(7/12)
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第4話 目指せドラゴンボール!ピラフ一味の大作戦!(8/2)
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第5話 界王星の決戦!悟空VS破壊神ビルス(8/9
Episode #2: Scenario: King Ryuu; Episode Director: Mikami Masato; Storyboard: Shida Naotoshi; Animation Supervisor: Ishikawa Osamu

Episode #3: Scenario: 吉高寿男; Episode Director: Satou Masanori; Storyboard: Satou Masanori; Animation Supervisor: Yashima Yoshitaka

NO EPISODE 26 JULY

Episode #4: Scenario: Koyama Makoto; Episode Director: Nakamura Ryouta; Storyboard: Yashima Yoshitaka; Animation Supervisor: Toma Seizo

Episode #5: Staff not yet revealed, but it will be Gokuu versus Beers.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:55 am

JulieYBM wrote:Episode #5: Staff not yet revealed, but it will be Gokuu versus Beers.
That soon, huh? That will be great. Also bummed out we're not gonna have an episode the week after #3.

Nice to see Shida working on episode 2, at least.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:58 am

The thing about Shida is that he never seems to do anything interesting with his storyboards, which probably means he is merely doing exactly what the episode director wants him to do. Hopefully Mikami will let him do something interesting.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:01 pm

Any chance Goku vs Beerus may steal some animators from other series, or is that a long shot with Toei's schedule?

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Post by Chuquita » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:06 pm

Episode titles!!

3's Beerus and his ssjg stream, 4 is Pilaf Gang, 5 is the first Gokû and Beerus fight.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:08 pm

Doctor. wrote:Any chance Goku vs Beerus may steal some animators from other series, or is that a long shot with Toei's schedule?
It's always possible, upcoming episodes for those other series don't wind up having a lot of their action animators used. With any luck we'll see Tate Naoki, Takahashi Yuuya, Hayashi Yuuki, and Watanabe Koudai, all of which who worked on the Opening animation. Nakatsuru Katsuyoshi so sporadically works anywhere that it isn't impossible that we might see him turn up, too, although I'm not sure I'd call him that interesting an animator. Hopefully the animation supervisor is good and we don't keep getting stuck with junk like Episodes #1-3.
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Post by Doctor. » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:12 pm

Chuquita wrote:Episode titles!!

3's Beerus and his ssjg stream, 4 is Pilaf Gang, 5 is the first Gokû and Beerus fight.
Oh, so it's just SS3 in episode 5? I thought it was SSG already. Hopefully SS3 doesn't look as bland and not intimidating as it did in BoG.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:19 pm

Ep 5 already? I knew they would rush this but not this fast :lol:
well I guess all the better for u6 to come!! I hope they add more badass scenes in the fight like more damages done to earth :twisted:

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Post by Chuquita » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:21 pm

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Chuquita wrote:Episode titles!!

3's Beerus and his ssjg stream, 4 is Pilaf Gang, 5 is the first Gokû and Beerus fight.
Oh, so it's just SS3 in episode 5? I thought it was SSG already. Hopefully SS3 doesn't look as bland and not intimidating as it did in BoG.
I'm almost certain that's the ssj3 fight, but I could be wrong.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:25 pm

Toma Seizo was the animation supervisor for Disk Wars: Avengers Episode #27, which was storyboarded by Chioka Kimitoshi. Episode #27 looked very good, so hopefully the same can be said for Episode #4.
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Post by irreality » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:27 pm

SansrivaaL wrote:Ep 5 already? I knew they would rush this but not this fast :lol:
well I guess all the better for u6 to come!! I hope they add more badass scenes in the fight like more damages done to earth :twisted:
My guess is that the first Beerus vs. Goku fight happens on Kaiou's planet like in BoG, though, since that is where Goku is training. These three episodes seem to be retelling the establishing shots of BoG -- Beerus discussing SSG with Whiz, the side plot with the Pilaf Gang, and then Goku meeting Beerus for the first time.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:31 pm

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SansrivaaL wrote:Ep 5 already? I knew they would rush this but not this fast :lol:
well I guess all the better for u6 to come!! I hope they add more badass scenes in the fight like more damages done to earth :twisted:
My guess is that the first Beerus vs. Goku fight happens on Kaiou's planet like in BoG, though, since that is where Goku is training. These three episodes seem to be retelling the establishing shots of BoG -- Beerus discussing SSG with Whiz, the side plot with the Pilaf Gang, and then Goku meeting Beerus for the first time.
Oh crap I took that as a SSG Goku vs Beerus so I thought it was on Earth, my bad :oops:
I guess the BoG saga will end in ep 12 or so. Now I guess DBS will have at least 50eps or probably more.

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:32 pm

That's exactly what is going on. I doubt the rematch will occur during Blooma's birthday again, though. Then again, maybe Episode #2 will reveal that Blooma has a birthday coming up? Eh, we'll see.
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SansrivaaL wrote:Ep 5 already? I knew they would rush this but not this fast :lol:
well I guess all the better for u6 to come!! I hope they add more badass scenes in the fight like more damages done to earth :twisted:
My guess is that the first Beerus vs. Goku fight happens on Kaiou's planet like in BoG, though, since that is where Goku is training. These three episodes seem to be retelling the establishing shots of BoG -- Beerus discussing SSG with Whiz, the side plot with the Pilaf Gang, and then Goku meeting Beerus for the first time.
I think the Pilaf shenenigans will be about them acquiring the DBs and wishing for youth. I doubt they're gonna re-do the party, it would get boring fast.

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Post by irreality » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:39 pm

JulieYBM wrote:That's exactly what is going on. I doubt the rematch will occur during Blooma's birthday again, though. Then again, maybe Episode #2 will reveal that Blooma has a birthday coming up? Eh, we'll see.
Maybe it will happen at the resort vacation? Bulma's birthday is in August, and if it is 6 months after the Tenkaichi Budokai, it would be closer to November/December, unless they are just not being precise with dates at all.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by dbgtFO » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:51 pm

What are the episode titles, how can you see them?
EDIT: Let me try Again. What magazine is this from?
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