Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

[Lord Gogeta]

well based on Beerus latest speed feat from DB Super ep2 he is hell of a lot faster than him

Because assumption based on nothing of any significance to assumption based on nothing of any significance results in facts.

That's how Dragon Ball works.

It doesn't.

We know nothing about it.

It's not assumption Beerus flew several light years in under 2 mins in the last episode

Freeza gets scaled to that which would make him faster than anything from Gt

I don't remember anything saying or showing Beerus flew light years in under 2 minutes. Tbh SSJ Goku vs Freeza 100% have better speed according to King Kai, since he can track /pinpoint mftl ships that travels 1/5 of the universe in 6 days, yet cannot see or pinpoint Goku fight against Freeza.

[Cetra]

It's not assumption Beerus flew several light years in under 2 mins in the last episode <- nothing of significance to make a proper assumption, actually what you think itself is already a vague assumption

Freeza gets scaled to that which would make him faster than anything from Gt <- another assumption based on nothing

As I said. Assumptions and details that really have no weight.

[Saiyan007]

It's not assumption Beerus flew several light years in under 2 mins in the last episode <- nothing of significance to make a proper assumption, actually what you think itself is already a vague assumption

Freeza gets scaled to that which would make him faster than anything from Gt <- another assumption based on nothing

As I said. Assumptions and details that really have no weight.

someone with basic knowledge of astronomy and using statements from the show make it facts

Better question show me someone from Gt moving that fast

Because assumption based on nothing of any significance to assumption based on nothing of any significance results in facts.

That's how Dragon Ball works.

It doesn't.

We know nothing about it.

It's not assumption Beerus flew several light years in under 2 mins in the last episode

Freeza gets scaled to that which would make him faster than anything from Gt

I don't remember anything saying or showing Beerus flew light years in under 2 minutes. Tbh SSJ Goku vs Freeza 100% have better speed according to King Kai, since he can track /pinpoint mftl ships that travels 1/5 of the universe in 6 days, yet cannot see or pinpoint Goku fight against Freeza.

the Beerus feat is faster but that Goku vs Freeza feat isn't bad at all

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Do you know for sure Yi Xing Long or SS4 Gogeta can't move that fast? Is there anything in the show to help draw a comparison?

[Saiyan007]

Do you know for sure Yi Xing Long or SS4 Gogeta can't move that fast? Is there anything in the show to help draw a comparison?

no that's the problem they can be that fast but nothing points to them being as fast as Beerus

[Kaboom]

How do you know they didn't use Whis' warping to get away?

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Do you know for sure Yi Xing Long or SS4 Gogeta can't move that fast? Is there anything in the show to help draw a comparison?

no that's the problem they can be that fast but nothing points to them being as fast as Beerus

And nothing points to Beers being faster than them... there's no comparisons, so there's no way to say BOG has better feats..

[Saiyan007]

How do you know they didn't use Whis' warping to get away?

no i'm talking about Beerus getting there on his own the first time Beerus left with Whis when they went home

Do you know for sure Yi Xing Long or SS4 Gogeta can't move that fast? Is there anything in the show to help draw a comparison?

no that's the problem they can be that fast but nothing points to them being as fast as Beerus

And nothing points to Beers being faster than them... there's no comparisons, so there's no way to say BOG has better feats..

Flying Light Years in under 2 mins kinda makes him faster than GT becuase of that feat

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Flying Light Years in under 2 mins kinda makes him faster than GT becuase of that feat

And you know SS4 Gogeta can't do that... because...?

[Saiyan007]

Flying Light Years in under 2 mins kinda makes him faster than GT becuase of that feat

And you know SS4 Gogeta can't do that... because...?

burden of proof is on you to show that he can move that fast via scaling or feats

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

burden of proof is on you

But... I'm not... making... any.. claims?

You're saying Beers' speed feat is proof that Gods are stronger than GT characters, but you can't prove how fast or slow GT characters are, so you can't use Beers' feat as a comparison.

[Friezacooler]

Better question show me someone from Gt moving that fast

Kibito Kai lol.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

Gogeta would knock Beers' away like he was nothing.

[Saiyan007]

burden of proof is on you

But... I'm not... making... any.. claims?

You're saying Beers' speed feat is proof that Gods are stronger than GT characters, but you can't prove how fast or slow GT characters are, so you can't use Beers' feat as a comparison.

becuase there is nothing that supports GT characters able to move that fast........

Do you not know how comparisons works?

Gogeta would knock Beers' away like he was nothing.

but gogeta isn't faster than Beerus

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

How is it a comparison if you don't have anything to compare it to?

[SSJ God Gogeta]

but gogeta isn't faster than Beerus

Yes he is.

[Saiyan007]

then don't just say yes he is without providing proof show us how fast Gogeta is

How is it a comparison if you don't have anything to compare it to?

then beerus wins by default since he has the better feat

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

then beerus wins by default since he has the better feat

That's some pants-on-head logic.

I take an IQ test and you don't. I find out I have an IQ of 120. Since 120 is high and impressive, I must have a higher IQ than you by default, right?

[Saiyan007]

then beerus wins by default since he has the better feat

That's some pants-on-head logic.

I take an IQ test and you don't. I find out I have an IQ of 120. Since 120 is high and impressive, I must have a higher IQ than you by default, right?

Since i never took the test i can't say i have a higher score since i don't have anything to back it up with

i would need some evidence or else it would be just be all talk

If i took the test and got a score of 300 i would say that i'm smarter than you because i actually have evidence

[Kaboom]

You can't make a comparison when there's nothing to compare to.

How is the message of "there is presently NO way to compare GT characters to new-movie god characters" not obvious and sinking in yet?