Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

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Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

Post by Lord Gogeta » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:18 pm

So I've heard this rumor online, that Golden Freeza is 2.3x stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta? According to the rumors a guide would have stated that. Is this true?
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Re: Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

Post by Rocketman » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:28 pm

There's no official or unofficial comment. Whatever you saw was wholly made up by some fanatic.

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Re: Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:31 pm

It's completely ambiguous. I personally think Gogeta is stronger, but that's personal preference.

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Re: Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

Post by Lord Gogeta » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:36 pm

Does Chozenshuu compared's GT strenght to Battle of Gods? Since it has GT and BoG info/comments on it.??
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Re: Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:37 pm

SSJ4 Gogeta holds the title of The Strongest until I say otherwise... :P
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Re: Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:43 pm

Lord Gogeta wrote:Does Chozenshuu compared's GT strenght to Battle of Gods? Since it has GT and BoG info/comments on it.??
No. There's never any comparison made between Battle of Gods and GT. Anywhere.

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Re: Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

Post by Lord Gogeta » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:45 pm

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Lord Gogeta wrote:Does Chozenshuu compared's GT strenght to Battle of Gods? Since it has GT and BoG info/comments on it.??
No. There's never any comparison made between Battle of Gods and GT. Anywhere.
Well how can you be sure? Chozenshuu 3 has GT and BoG content. Have you read Chozenshuu 3?
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Re: Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:49 pm

Lord Gogeta wrote:Well how can you be sure? Chozenshuu 3 has GT and BoG content. Have you read Chozenshuu 3?
Herms has, and there are none.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

Post by Kaboom » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:49 pm

Lord Gogeta wrote:Well how can you be sure? Chozenshuu 3 has GT and BoG content. Have you read Chozenshuu 3?
Because the people who run this website and can understand Japanese have thoroughly analyzed the Chozenshuu books, and if there was any significant in-universe or strength-related revelations to be found, they'd have been revealed in the process.
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Re: Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

Post by Lord Gogeta » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:57 pm

Kaboom wrote:
Lord Gogeta wrote:Well how can you be sure? Chozenshuu 3 has GT and BoG content. Have you read Chozenshuu 3?
Because the people who run this website and can understand Japanese have thoroughly analyzed the Chozenshuu books, and if there was any significant in-universe or strength-related revelations to be found, they'd have been revealed in the process.
oh well that's disappointing , I guess we will never know for sure
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Re: Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Jul 12, 2015 1:09 pm

He very well might be.
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Re: Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

Post by Lord Gogeta » Sun Jul 12, 2015 1:30 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:He very well might be.
Agreed
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Re: Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

Post by Zephyr » Sun Jul 12, 2015 4:15 pm

At best, you could arguably piece together a few vague/questionable comparisons/implications between several characters in order to compare Super Saiyan God Goku to Super Saiyan 4 Goku. Anything beyond that is even more speculative though.

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Re: Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

Post by Saiyan007 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 4:21 pm

well based on Beerus latest speed feat from DB Super ep2 he is hell of a lot faster than him

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Re: Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

Post by Rocketman » Sun Jul 12, 2015 5:12 pm

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Re: Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Jul 12, 2015 5:48 pm

The characters in Dragon Ball can be as strong as you want them to be. Why? Because they don't exist.

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Re: Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

Post by Saiyan007 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 6:24 pm

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Re: Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

Post by Cetra » Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:33 pm

Saiyan007 wrote:well based on Beerus latest speed feat from DB Super ep2 he is hell of a lot faster than him
Because assumption based on nothing of any significance to assumption based on nothing of any significance results in facts.

That's how Dragon Ball works.

It doesn't.

We know nothing about it.
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Re: Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

Post by Saiyan007 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:54 pm

Cetra wrote:
Saiyan007 wrote:well based on Beerus latest speed feat from DB Super ep2 he is hell of a lot faster than him
Because assumption based on nothing of any significance to assumption based on nothing of any significance results in facts.

That's how Dragon Ball works.

It doesn't.

We know nothing about it.
It's not assumption Beerus flew several light years in under 2 mins in the last episode

Freeza gets scaled to that which would make him faster than anything from Gt

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Re: Is Golden Freeza Stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta?

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:01 pm

How do you know Yi Xing Long can't do that?

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