The moral alignment of Beerus

saunasolmu · Post by **saunasolmu** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:09 pm

He's going to destroy planets anyways. He's going to kill trillions of people anyways. That's what he's supposed to do. So if he decides to destroy the planets with annoying inhabitants, I don't see how that makes him evil. He's going to have to destroy x amount of planets anyways.

Doctor. · Post by **Doctor.** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:12 pm

saunasolmu wrote:He's going to destroy planets anyways. He's going to kill trillions of people anyways. That's what he's supposed to do. So if he decides to destroy the planets with annoying inhabitants, I don't see how that makes him evil. He's going to have to destroy x amount of planets anyways.

But he's enjoying it... that's evil.

Lord Beerus · Post by **Lord Beerus** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:20 pm

Doctor. wrote:
saunasolmu wrote:He's going to destroy planets anyways. He's going to kill trillions of people anyways. That's what he's supposed to do. So if he decides to destroy the planets with annoying inhabitants, I don't see how that makes him evil. He's going to have to destroy x amount of planets anyways.
But he's enjoying it... that's evil.

But Beerus knows full well that all the beings he kills will be reincarnated anyway. So does it really matter? It's not like he evilly laughing like after destroying a planet like Freeza did after he destroyed Planet Vegeta.

Polyphase Avatron · Post by **Polyphase Avatron** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:39 pm

Goku: Lawful good
Vegeta: Neutral good
Freeza: Lawful evil
Cell: Chaotic evil
Kid Buu: Chaotic evil
Mr. Buu: Chaotic good
Kaioshin: Lawful good
Beerus: Chaotic neutral
Whis: True neutral

Lord Beerus · Post by **Lord Beerus** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:51 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Goku: Lawful good
Vegeta: Neutral good
Freeza: Lawful evil
Cell: Chaotic evil
Kid Buu: Chaotic evil
Mr. Buu: Chaotic good
Kaioshin: Lawful good
Beerus: Chaotic neutral
Whis: True neutral

I'd personally say that Goku and Vegeta are more Chaotic Good than Lawful or Neutral Good. I mean, they are Saiyans and their Blood Knight characteristics can often get the best of them at the worst of times. But to their credit, they do try their best to minimise the possibility of casualties if they create too much of ruckus. So they can flip flop between Chaotic Good and Neutral Good. But other than that, every other alignment is spot on.

Doctor. · Post by **Doctor.** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:53 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
saunasolmu wrote:He's going to destroy planets anyways. He's going to kill trillions of people anyways. That's what he's supposed to do. So if he decides to destroy the planets with annoying inhabitants, I don't see how that makes him evil. He's going to have to destroy x amount of planets anyways.
But he's enjoying it... that's evil.
But Beerus knows full well that all the beings he kills will be reincarnated anyway. So does it really matter? It's not like he evilly laughing like after destroying a planet like Freeza did after he destroyed Planet Vegeta.

How does that negate the suffering that those beings had to endure when they were dying...?

Them being reincarnated doesn't negate Beerus' evil actions. By that logic, no villain in Dragon Ball is actually evil. He wasn't laughing, but he was smiling, close enough.

Polyphase Avatron · Post by **Polyphase Avatron** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:54 pm

Doctor. wrote:How does that negate the suffering that those beings had to endure when they were dying...?

Them being reincarnated doesn't negate Beerus' evil actions. By that logic, no villain in Dragon Ball is actually evil. He wasn't laughing, but he was smiling, close enough.

Well then every time Goku or the Z-senshi damage the Earth in a fight and figure they can just wish people back with the dragonballs, they're being evil too.

Besides, Beerus seemed more bored than happy destroying planets.

Doctor. · Post by **Doctor.** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:59 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
Doctor. wrote:How does that negate the suffering that those beings had to endure when they were dying...?

Them being reincarnated doesn't negate Beerus' evil actions. By that logic, no villain in Dragon Ball is actually evil. He wasn't laughing, but he was smiling, close enough.
Well then every time Goku or the Z-senshi damage the Earth in a fight and figure they can just wish people back with the dragonballs, they're being evil too.

Besides, Beerus seemed more bored than happy destroying planets.

They're not damaging it on purpose and they don't enjoy it, I can't believe you're making this comparison right now.

Beerus was clearly smiling in episode 2 and even said he couldn't get bored of watching planets explode, c'mon lol.

Lord Beerus · Post by **Lord Beerus** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:10 pm

Doctor. wrote:Beerus was clearly smiling in episode 2 and even said he couldn't get bored of watching planets explode, c'mon lol.

Well, Beerus was obviously smiling about the fact that he prevented that horrible dinosaur meat from plaguing the taste buds of any other being in the universe. He's a hero, dammit! All hail Lord Beerus!

Beerus-sama · Post by **Beerus-sama** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:29 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Doctor. wrote:Beerus was clearly smiling in episode 2 and even said he couldn't get bored of watching planets explode, c'mon lol.
Well, Beerus was obviously smiling about the fact that he prevented that horrible dinosaur meat from plaguing the taste buds of any other being in the universe. He's a hero, dammit! All hail Lord Beerus!

I thought he was smiling because the explotion made him remember about SSG

AvatarReiko · Post by **AvatarReiko** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:54 am

Beerus could destroy planets with no life on them. But he doesn't.

singsing · Post by **singsing** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:59 am

AvatarReiko wrote:Beerus could destroy planets with no life on them. But he doesn't.

That defeats the purpose of reincarnating souls though.

FoolsGil · Post by **FoolsGil** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:10 am

Beers is a Type 1 Chaotic Evil. Paraphrased, more about freedom, less about evil. Capable of great evil, doesn't actually follow up unless you've flipped that switch. Type 1s are capable of working with the forces of good. Keep in mind I'm talking about Super's Beers. BoG Beers is Chaotic Neutral, but I'm sure after spending enough time with Goku, Super's Beers will eventually become Chaotic Neutral as well or maybe Chaotic Good.

RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:01 am

Solid Neutral Evil. He works within the system and does his job, but he's very peculiar about how he does it (e.g. if you can somehow amuse him, he might let you live longer). He doesn't really care about the greater good, and ses his position as a way to have fun by humiliating and stealing from people before murdering them.

DBZAOTA482 · Post by **DBZAOTA482** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:42 am

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Goku: Chaotic good
Vegeta: Chaotic neutral
Freeza: Lawful evil
Cell: Neutral evil
Kid Buu: Chaotic evil
Mr. Buu: Chaotic good
Kaioshin: Lawful neutral
Beerus: Chaotic neutral, Neutral evil (Super)
Whis: True neutral

Fix'd.

Diotor · Post by **Diotor** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:45 am

I'd go along with Beerus being neutral, but as he seems to be a rather capricious god, I'd probably put him somewhere along the lines of being chaotic neutral.

Someone like Freeza is somewhere between lawful evil and neutral evil.

Buu is chaotic evil.

Lord Beerus · Post by **Lord Beerus** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:48 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:Goku: Chaotic good
Vegeta: Chaotic neutral
Freeza: Lawful evil
Cell: Neutral evil
Kid Buu: Chaotic evil
Mr. Buu: Chaotic good
Kaioshin: Lawful neutral
Beerus: Chaotic neutral, Neutral evil (Super)
Whis: True neutral
Fix'd.

No way Cell is Neutral Evil. He is an practically evil version of Goku. A Blood Knight who is way off the deep end; much more crueler, sadistic and twisted. He is flat out Chaotic Evil. He only show glimpses of being Neutral Evil is when he's Perfect Cell.

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:02 am

Neutral evil. Beerus does way too many evil things willingly for petty and selfish reasons for him to be chaotic neutral.

Dbzejo · Post by **Dbzejo** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:17 am

He is neutral. He is also one of the best characters in the entire franchise, having appeared from 2013 onwards in 2 recent movies and super, he is more entertaining and fun/unique than some of the characters that have been part of the series for 30 years...

RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:37 am

All he does is talk about food.

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