What is the General Consensus for Super?

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: What is the General Consensus for Super?

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:17 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I think Super might feel more special if we never got the 2008 Jump Special, Kai, Episode of Bardock,the 2010 remake of PTETS, BOG and ROF between 2008 - 2015. So imagine if we got nothing between 2008 - 2015 then Toei announces Super for summer 2015 with the same story and script we have now. Would Super feel more special?
Well yeah cause without BOG and FNF, we'd have new material and maybe people would be more forgiving.
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Re: What is the General Consensus for Super?

Post by Chuquita » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:23 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I think Super might feel more special if we never got the 2008 Jump Special, Kai, Episode of Bardock,the 2010 remake of PTETS, BOG and ROF between 2008 - 2015. So imagine if we got nothing between 2008 - 2015 then Toei announces Super for summer 2015 with the same story and script we have now. Would Super feel more special?
I don't know; if it wasn't for all the in-between shorts, I'd have left the fandom back during that time period. ^^; I could see myself as having left somewhere in 09 or 10 if that were the case. As it is, I almost left in early 2012 because nothing new was happening. If I had left, and nothing happened after that until Super...I probably still would've found out about it through the news page on Crunchyroll. I probably would enjoy it more because I'd be able to theorize about what's going to happen the way I did when BOG and F were coming out, and the way I can theorize about Uni 6's arc.
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Re: What is the General Consensus for Super?

Post by Scarz » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:38 pm

I've been really enjoying it so far! It has it's issues, but most can be overlooked. I'm hoping the story will pick up momentum once they start exploring other universes. But that probably won't be the case for a while.

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Re: What is the General Consensus for Super?

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:46 pm

I haven't been posting in the main threads for each episode mostly due to lack of time (but also lack of wanting to deal with the exact same arguments that have been had so many times since Battle of Gods first came out...I can only imagine this getting worse once we get to the Resurrection F arc in the series...), but I have been watching each episode so far, and...for the most part, I'm really enjoying it.

Sure, it's the same material we saw in Battle of Gods almost verbatim. And sure, it's not without it's pitfalls occasionally, such as the animation in episode 5 (that said though, I've not only seen far worse, I'm also fairly certain they'll touch it up at least a little before a home release). But it's still a very enjoyable product so far, and I'll be even more excited to see where it goes when we get to the truly all new material. That really is the main thing holding the series back right now IMO though, is that it's material we've already seen. Coming off of Kai which did this exact same thing only without any new animation, it's understandable that even Super would feel a little bit 'stale' right now. But stale enough not to be enjoyed? Not to me at any rate.
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Re: What is the General Consensus for Super?

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:33 pm

I'm really enjoying Super, for the most part. Pacing issues and animation hiccups aside, I haven't felt bored while watching it.

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Re: What is the General Consensus for Super?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:36 pm

Oh, and I forgot to say... the manga's much better (like how it is 99% of the time with adaptations).
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Re: What is the General Consensus for Super?

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:39 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Oh, and I forgot to say... the manga's much better (like how it is 99% of the time with adaptations).
The manga has the good sense to know we've seen BoG already and gives us new content instead of completely regurgitating the movie. It still baffles me how we can get a 20 minute of everyone gawking at Beerus but no one at the stuff thought throwing in Champa in there would be a good idea.
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Re: What is the General Consensus for Super?

Post by Bullza » Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:54 pm

It's alright, I'm enjoying it but it definitley ain't as good as Battle of Gods. It was a huge mistake to retell the movies, it's a waste of time and it's just an inferior version.

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Re: What is the General Consensus for Super?

Post by InfernalVegito » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:11 pm

I enjoy it but mainly for the story and just to see characters in a new story. The animation is meh, never liked the overly glossy and bright style in modern animes and never will. Also some of the character designs are just outright awkward (Kuririn looks like a child for example).

My main gripe with it, however, is the fact that the old sound effects are gone and that the music is absolutely forgettable and does not exude any Dragon Ball feeling to me at all.
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Re: What is the General Consensus for Super?

Post by FortuneSSJ » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:21 pm

Disappointed with the animation quality sometimes, Kaio voice actor performance and some details. The soundtrack could be better too.
But despite that, I'm enjoying it.

If they will bother to do a retelling, at least do it right. And they are doing it.
Plot wise Its turning out better than BOG. Things are fleshing out better and there's screentime for everyone. Except for Lunch of course.
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Re: What is the General Consensus for Super?

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:24 pm

It's been alright so far, really just waiting for the new material.
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Re: What is the General Consensus for Super?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:34 pm

Animation from episode 5 infact just all of episode 5 aside, I am really enjoying the series. I was scared about them re doing the movies but they both feel so different it's not problem, somethings from the movie are handled better in Super (Vegeta Rage Bulma scene, Vegeta cooking and Beerus being soaked, Party on a cruiseship to name a few), and things handled better in BoG movie (Beerus intro, Goku vs Beerus fight).

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Post by Beerus-sama » Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:23 pm

I'm enjoying it for the most part, its fun watching different versions of material you like :P
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Re: What is the General Consensus for Super?

Post by Scott » Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:15 pm

Disappointing so far, it is too early to just give up and think it won't improve so i will stick with it. It's Dragon Ball, there is no way that i will give up on it.

I'm hating the animation so far though and the majority of the characters aren't like they once were. Things seem out of place, it doesn't feel like Dragon Ball to me.

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Re: What is the General Consensus for Super?

Post by VintageSaiyan » Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:53 pm

My friends and I could not get through it. I had to painfully watch it alone - and these are guys who keep up with the fan mangas, play the games competitively, and still put on certain parts of the series when we're all together. (We also think Bleach really sucks but can't stop reading because the art is so damn good, and watched Naruto end because we enjoyed it) General consensus around here and people I've met outside this board is that it sucks.

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Re: What is the General Consensus for Super?

Post by Araki » Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:58 pm

VintageSaiyan wrote:watched Naruto end because we enjoyed it
Well, the general consensus everywhere is that Naruto has been sucking badly for a long while, so...

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Post by VintageSaiyan » Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:03 pm

Araki wrote:
VintageSaiyan wrote:watched Naruto end because we enjoyed it
Well, the general consensus everywhere is that Naruto has been sucking badly for a long while, so...
It was up and down, especially towards the end -even for us. But nothing crazy like Super.

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Re: What is the General Consensus for Super?

Post by theoriginalbilis » Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:06 pm

I'm fine with it so far; it's an entertaining show to sit and watch weekly. The story only feels like it's dragging because we got a very concise film version in BoG. Once we get into the RoF material, it'll probably feel a bit fresher, since there's a lot of holes they could fill between the events of that movie.

The animation and fight choreography isn't great, but after watching One Piece in recent years, I've come to expect that from modern Toei. I have a feeling they're saving the better animation teams for later fights (RoF/Universe 6).

On a related note: I'm very curious to hear the Kanzenshuu staff's thoughts on the more recent episodes. The Ep. 1 & 2 review seemed like they were invested and optimistic. I wonder if their thoughts have changed... and if they're still looking forward to more. Do they like it? Have they turned against it? Or have they pulled a "Dragon Ball Kai" and just stopped caring? Stay tuned... :D
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Re: What is the General Consensus for Super?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:02 am

Araki wrote:
VintageSaiyan wrote:watched Naruto end because we enjoyed it
Well, the general consensus everywhere is that Naruto has been sucking badly for a long while, so...
Most people say that Naruto should have ended after Vol. 27. Shippuden started off okay, but got worst over time. Naruto (One-Tailed Fox form) vs. Sasuke (Second State Curse Mark form) would have been made a good final battle.
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Re: What is the General Consensus for Super?

Post by Doctor. » Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:00 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:
Araki wrote:
VintageSaiyan wrote:watched Naruto end because we enjoyed it
Well, the general consensus everywhere is that Naruto has been sucking badly for a long while, so...
Most people say that Naruto should have ended after Vol. 27. Shippuden started off okay, but got worst over time. Naruto (One-Tailed Fox form) vs. Sasuke (Second State Curse Mark form) would have been made a good final battle.
It really wouldn't, there was so much stuff to finish. So many sub-plots that needed to be closed, like the Akatsuki, Itachi, Orochimaru and what-not. It's not like Dragon Ball where every story is self-contained so you could end the series at any point. The series ended at the perfect time, it just started becoming shit. But anyway, this isn't a Naruto thread so this is irrelevant.

From what i see over on MAL, here, and everywhere else I go to, the general consensus is that it didn't live up to the hype (that the Internet needlessly created for it), the animation and pacing suck but it's being entertaining so far.

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