So About Beerus & Goku Destroying the Universe...?

[theherodjl]

After thinking about it, the DBverse is made of just four galaxies and an afterlife section comparable in size so they are universe busters...just of mini-universe size like DB's.
I guess the next thing on the agenda is to have the fights begin to quake all the other mini-universes in DB and then they would begin to be true universe busters.

Jaco in Super Manga chapter 6 said there's tons of galaxies in a universe.

"Tons of galaxies" can still equate to four because it's much more than 1 galaxy.

[Helios518]

After thinking about it, the DBverse is made of just four galaxies and an afterlife section comparable in size so they are universe busters...just of mini-universe size like DB's.
I guess the next thing on the agenda is to have the fights begin to quake all the other mini-universes in DB and then they would begin to be true universe busters.

Jaco in Super Manga chapter 6 said there's tons of galaxies in a universe.

"Tons of galaxies" can still equate to four because it's much more than 1 galaxy.

Then Jaco would've outright said 4 galaxies.

[theherodjl]

What if he did? All he says if that there are many galaxies, he didn't say how many though or give any scale in comparison that it is much more than 4.

[Helios518]

What if he did? All he says if that there are many galaxies, he didn't say how many though or give any scale in comparison that it is much more than 4.

Because very few people use the word a "Ton" when they could actually count the amount with one hand.

[Polyphase Avatron]

That manga isn't canon to the series though, it's by a different author and the events play out differently.

[theherodjl]

What if he did? All he says if that there are many galaxies, he didn't say how many though or give any scale in comparison that it is much more than 4.

Because very few people use the word a "Ton" when they could actually count the amount with one hand.

Chapter 5 depicts the universe as having 4 galaxies as shown in Whis' example and even shows Champa's universe having a similar build and given that they are "twins" Jaco could just be referring to U6 as well if he is talking about more than 4 galaxies.

[Helios518]

What if he did? All he says if that there are many galaxies, he didn't say how many though or give any scale in comparison that it is much more than 4.

Because very few people use the word a "Ton" when they could actually count the amount with one hand.

Chapter 5 depicts the universe as having 4 galaxies as shown in Whis' example and even shows Champa's universe having a similar build and given that they are "twins" Jaco could just be referring to U6 as well if he is talking about more than 4 galaxies.

Jaco was talking about traveling across the universe with Bulma, he's definitely not talking about universe 6.

That manga isn't canon to the series though, it's by a different author and the events play out differently.

The event played very similar like Beerus and Goku's fight threatening the universe even the anime shown more then 4 different galaxies.

[Dbzk1999]

The anime flat out shows more than four galaxies, seriously, simple as that

[Polyphase Avatron]

The anime flat out shows more than four galaxies, seriously, simple as that

Based on background animation? It also shows Earth having the same continents as RL and Freeza's empire being only a few planets. Relying on background animation is silly.

[MisterGuyMan]

Daizenshuu doesn't state there are only four galaxies as we know them. The East/West/North/South Galaxies are administrative terms.

There no point in dismissing background animation if there's no competing evidence that contradicts it. The natural default is to just assume the DB universe is a normal one like ours until we have evidence otherwise anyway.

[Polyphase Avatron]

The Jaco manga gave a picture of a galaxy and said it was the same thing as the term used for a galaxy, and said it had 200 billion stars (around the same size as a RL galaxy). And the universe itself is obviously very different from outs because it's surrounded by that weird shell with those inscriptions on it like the guide says. Not to mention all of the other peculiar parts and divisions it has.

Pretty much unless Toriyama writes a new guide or something in the anime explicitly states there are more than 4, I am pretty sure there are 4. You can feel free to believe differently though.

[Black_Liger]

But when a stronger Goku trained by Whis fights Freeza the universe is perfectly fine?

Actually, Whis is training them to raise their ki inside their bodies, and control it better, meaning they can immensely reduce the collateral damage since they are mastering their ki to be more powerful but less destructive to their enviroment.

[Birusu16]

The 4 galaxy thing certainly doesn't apply anymore. We see more than 4 in the anime and Jaco flat out says there's "tons" of galaxies in Universe 7. Ton is not a word that would be used if there were only 4.

[The Monkey King]

The anime shown more than 4 galaxies exist
Jaco states there are 'countless' galaxies withing universe 7
He even calls the galaxy the Z warriors reside in the Milky Way

I think it's clear that the mortal universe in dragon ball resembles ours with a nigh infinite amount of galaxies

[Blackstripe]

I...I really don't get why some people are desperately clinging to the four galaxy thing at this point. I mean...I could at least understand it back when it seemed to be the most probable truth, but could you explain why you actually like it enough to actually go against the flow now that it doesn't?

[Polyphase Avatron]

I...I really don't get why some people are desperately clinging to the four galaxy thing at this point. I mean...I could at least understand it back when it seemed to be the most probable truth, but could you explain why you actually like it enough to actually go against the flow now that it doesn't?

Mainly because there's nothing explicitly contradicting it and I try not to assume huge retcons without sufficient evidence.

[MisterGuyMan]

I...I really don't get why some people are desperately clinging to the four galaxy thing at this point. I mean...I could at least understand it back when it seemed to be the most probable truth, but could you explain why you actually like it enough to actually go against the flow now that it doesn't?

Mainly because there's nothing explicitly contradicting it and I try not to assume huge retcons without sufficient evidence.

It's actually the reverse. Theres no actual proof that the 'only four galaxies' thing was true to begin with since Daizenshuu says they're just administrative terms. Conversely we have actual evidence that more than four galaxies exist since we're shown more than four galaxies. So by default we should just assume it's a normal universe with innumerable galaxies anyway and ON TOP of that, we know for a fact there's already more than four galaxies.

[buutenks]

While i dont care much about the 4 galaxy thing,where is it stated in the DB manga that there r only 4 galaxies in the DB universe?IIRC this was never stated.

[Polyphase Avatron]

It's stated in the Daizenshuus that show the maps of the universe.

[MisterGuyMan]

It's stated in the Daizenshuus that show the maps of the universe.

It's really not. The East, West, North and South Galaxies are nothing more than administrative terms.

Galaxy
A gathering of local planets in the universe. Planets gather and form a nebula, and beyond that, a collection of gathered nebulae is called a galaxy. The four Kaiou who rule over the east, west, south, and north [sections] of the universe actually govern these galaxies. Because the Kami in the Heavenly Realm and the Kaiou supervise the galaxies that exist infinitely in all the universe, the sections known as the East, West, South, and North Galaxies are denominations that came into use through their duty. (http://magikarp46.com/dragonball/guideb ... ldview.php)

Moreover, and some one can correct me if I'm wrong, there's no general plural forms in Japanese. The East Galaxy is just as likely to be the East Galaxies.

Nouns and Pronouns
Most Japanese nouns do not change form as they can in English. For instance, most nouns (with the exception of nouns referring to people) have no plural form. Thus 'cat' and 'cats' are both the same word neko. (http://www.learn-japanese.info/grammar.html)

Everyone's been referring them as the East, West, North and South galaxy sectors all this time and up until now there was no need for correction or clarification.

Long Story short, we don't know if it was plural or singular to begin with, Daizenshuu explains they're just administrative terms and even explains the Universe is infinite to begin with.