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Nikkolas
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by Nikkolas » Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:36 am
This is from GT Episode 16 where Goku assesses the Sigma Force. Pan would go on to defeat a member of th SF, Natt.
Now the guy who reminded me off about this says that, based on Goku's last statement, the SF might even rival or surpass Ledgic. I''m not sure I'm willing to go that far because I don't recall even Base Rildo being able to force Goku to go SSJ and I think any form of Rildo would surpass these guys.
Also re-watched the episodes with Naturon. There is some heroic resolve crap going down but Goku isn't Ichigo. Even a regular Kamehameha from an SSJ4 should vaporize anything less than a rather strong opponent. Plus after that failed, Pan-absored Naturon proceeded to hurt Goku so bad he said his body has never felt such pain. His heart too 'cuz of Pan but all the same.
Naturally this isn't all Pan's PL but I think it's a respectable indication of her strength.
Still, I would say this puts her well out of Freeza's class. Where it puts her though, I have no idea. It's one reason I liked having her comparable to Freeza, it was a good baseline or division. Now she's just...somewhere up in the air. I couldn't even begin to think of a good opponent for her.
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by DanielSSJ » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:38 pm
Logically speaking, I wouldn't place her much higher than Freeza. However, GT's power scaling is notoriously wonky, so she could conceivably be Majin Boo tier or above.
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by ShadowBardock89 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:12 am
I think you're comparing things a little too broadly.
To me, Pan kicking Rilldo is no different from Gohan kicking Nappa in the Saiyan arc. The bigger question is does Pan have latent potential, much like her father?
Also, if we want to see Super Saiyan Pan, our best would be Dragon Ball Heroes. Will it happen?
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=40715&start=20#p1439892
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by Hugo Boss » Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:56 pm
She is stronger than Dr. Gero, that is the best I can think of Pan. She could probably give a lot of trouble to Goten and Trunks as long as they aren't Super Saiyans.
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by DBZAOTA482 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:00 pm
As powerful as the plot allows...
fadeddreams5 wrote:DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am
I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about
your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
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by omaro34 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:44 pm
Since she trashed Gero, I would put her very near SSJ1.