fadeddreams5 wrote:That Namekian book isn't a major plot point. It's was just their way of writing "it is stated in Namekian legend that..."
And you know this for an absolute fact, because...?
I mean, there's every chance you're right. But there's also every chance you're not. So would it seriously pain you that much to not have a completely negative viewpoint on everything? Because if your hopes for Super are that low, then I can't help but wonder why you even still bother to watch it or enter threads about it.
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In my opinion the only reason he wasn't killed in resurrection of F was because the directors didn't want to waste time killing him/Gohan getting angered at his death/then having to revive him.
Since Super is obviously much longer than "F", they have more time to play around with these things.
fadeddreams5 wrote:That Namekian book isn't a major plot point. It's was just their way of writing "it is stated in Namekian legend that..."
And you know this for an absolute fact, because...?
Because it seemed pretty obvious within the context it was brought up in. Also, Super will soon have Zuno.
I wasn't trying to be negative that time.
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The Monkey King wrote:As for the thread maybe his death will give him the motivation for him to get stronger and he'll seek out the 'Namekian book of legends?' and find out how to become a Super Namek God.
That's what I've been hoping. Something like "I couldn't protect Gohan" will motivate him to train and get some sort of power up for the next arc. The way he was watching over Gohan in Episode 1 particularly comes to mind.
The fact that they'll probably have to revive him with the Namekian balls seems like it could cause some introspection on his part too. Plus that "book of legends" was such a specific change from the movie dialogue that I find it hard to believe it was just a throwaway line.
Zombie wrote:There's something that crossed my mind the other day: There will still be one wish left after Piccolo is revived and Kibitoshin defuses.
What if Piccolo wishes to get the Namekian Book of Legends and find a way to get stronger?
Good catch but you pop something in my mind up.The ROF arc is about to end but we never see Champa meeting the Kaioshins,I'm starting to think it will happen off screen including the wishes,meaning Piccolo will already be strong as heck when he returns.
dbzfan7 wrote:Perhaps his death will push Gohan to start to care about being able to protect those closest to him.
Based on the last chapter
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Gohan isn't at the tournament because he's at some lecture so you can rule that out.
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Gohan is also the only fighter that was left behind, while even Bulma's parents and his family are there to see the tournament.
With all the focus about his wasted potential and lack of training lately, it can't be coincidence.
sintzu wrote:I thought it was to give Gohan a rage boost to attack Freeza but like the majority of Super, it turned out to be pointless.
dbzfan7 wrote:Perhaps his death will push Gohan to start to care about being able to protect those closest to him.
Based on the last chapter
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Gohan isn't at the tournament because he's at some lecture so you can rule that out.
That's why I said "PERHAPS". My bet is it's gonna mean jack shit and it'll probably feel like it never happened, but that doesn't mean there's not a small chance Super might do something really good for once that's not simply being shit.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
I can't imagine a reason other than wanting to up the stakes for the serialized format, with both its timeline placement and the fact it's an adaptation of previously animated material threatening to neuter some of the tension.
Either way, it's an unbelievably poorly handled element.
Nope. As others have said, it was done for shock value and to create enough differentiation from the event in Resurrection F when Super was retelling the story.
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Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Nothing no there's was no reason for piccolo to die in super considering the next arc he's alive and well it was nothing but pointless shock value that amount to shit.
Zombie wrote:There's something that crossed my mind the other day: There will still be one wish left after Piccolo is revived and Kibitoshin defuses.
What if Piccolo wishes to get the Namekian Book of Legends and find a way to get stronger?
Good catch but you pop something in my mind up.The ROF arc is about to end but we never see Champa meeting the Kaioshins,I'm starting to think it will happen off screen including the wishes,meaning Piccolo will already be strong as heck when he returns.
That scene could still happen but in a different way. Maybe Champa and Vados are destroying another planet again and Elder Kai catches him and that scene plays out like it did in the manga?
precita wrote:Are you being serious? Almost all the other characters death was important to the story of that particular saga and led to the events of the next one.
The humans/Piccolo dying against the Saiyans is why they traveled to Namek to revive them. Krillin's death brought Super Saiyan Goku. Vegeta's death let us see a side of his character we hadn't seen before.
Most of the main characters death had some sort of importance, Piccolo's in Super does nothing.
It's actually your thread that is completely pointless. Super isn't over, Piccolo wasn't even resurrected yet for God's sake, and you already assume the death will have no consequences. That doesn't make any sense.
precita wrote:Are you being serious? Almost all the other characters death was important to the story of that particular saga and led to the events of the next one.
The humans/Piccolo dying against the Saiyans is why they traveled to Namek to revive them. Krillin's death brought Super Saiyan Goku. Vegeta's death let us see a side of his character we hadn't seen before.
Most of the main characters death had some sort of importance, Piccolo's in Super does nothing.
It's actually your thread that is completely pointless. Super isn't over, Piccolo wasn't even resurrected yet for God's sake, and you already assume the death will have no consequences. That doesn't make any sense.
What consequences piccolo is already alive by the manga and going to participate in the tournament for the next arc. I doubt there's going be major coming from it.
precita wrote:Are you being serious? Almost all the other characters death was important to the story of that particular saga and led to the events of the next one.
The humans/Piccolo dying against the Saiyans is why they traveled to Namek to revive them. Krillin's death brought Super Saiyan Goku. Vegeta's death let us see a side of his character we hadn't seen before.
Most of the main characters death had some sort of importance, Piccolo's in Super does nothing.
It's actually your thread that is completely pointless. Super isn't over, Piccolo wasn't even resurrected yet for God's sake, and you already assume the death will have no consequences. That doesn't make any sense.
What consequences piccolo is already alive by the manga and going to participate in the tournament for the next arc. I doubt there's going be major coming from it.
There's a theory: Piccolo looks up that namekian book and gets a power up, and Kibito Kaioshin defuses, so definitely not pointless.
