What was the point of Piccolo dying in Super?

[precita]

I don't get it. Piccolo didn't die in Ressurrection of F so why make that pointless change in Super?

Since we also know he's going to be in the Universe 6 tournament he obviously gets revived rather quickly, so it feels like his whole death was...completely pointless? It really bothers me because its "canon" and its now on the list of official deaths. What a pointless change for Super from the movie.

[FoolsGil]

It was done for shock value.

[Doctor.]

What was the point of anyone else dying in the series when they can just be revived? You can make an argument that Kuririn's first and second deaths were necessary, as well as Piccolo's in the Saiyan arc and #16 in the Cell arc, but what about everyone else? It was obviously done for shock value. If anything, it's possible that reviving Piccolo will make the Namekian Dragon Balls unavailable for the next arc, something that could have a great impact, who knows.

[precita]

Are you being serious? Almost all the other characters death was important to the story of that particular saga and led to the events of the next one.

The humans/Piccolo dying against the Saiyans is why they traveled to Namek to revive them. Krillin's death brought Super Saiyan Goku. Vegeta's death let us see a side of his character we hadn't seen before.

Most of the main characters death had some sort of importance, Piccolo's in Super does nothing.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Most of the main characters death had some sort of importance, Piccolo's in Super does nothing.

That we know of yet. For all we know, dying to protect Gohan (again) and being asked to participate in the Universe 6 tournament, will be reasons for Piccolo's renewed interests in training and actually trying to catch up to Goku and Vegeta again. Or, it could turn out to be nothing, just as you said. The truth of the matter is though that we just don't actually know yet.

[Hellspawn28]

Piccolo's death in Super and GT are pointless. Piccolo's death in Super was a lazy rehash of his death when Nappa killed him. In GT, he barely did anything and died so that he can become a plot device.

[dbzfan7]

We don't know yet. Beyond shock value we have to wait and see. Perhaps it will drive Piccolo to become stronger and it's why he wants to fight in the U6 arc. Perhaps his death will push Gohan to start to care about being able to protect those closest to him. Perhaps it will rule out the namekian balls for a while as said above. Beyond the last though, I kinda doubt it will mean much. Focus seems entirely on Goku, Vegeta, Beerus, and Whis. Most outside stuff I see such as posters and teasers is around those people. The first time I saw something else was the poster with the two teams. The current style of Super doesn't give me reassurance that there's much to look forward to if your focus isn't mostly on Goku and Vegeta.

[Doctor.]

The humans/Piccolo dying against the Saiyans is why they traveled to Namek to revive them. Krillin's death brought Super Saiyan Goku. Vegeta's death let us see a side of his character we hadn't seen before.

Most of the main characters death had some sort of importance, Piccolo's in Super does nothing.

The death of the humans is irrelevant, only Piccolo dying would achieve the same result. Sure, you can say that the humans dying imposes a sense of despair and increases the tension, but you can say the same thing about Piccolo in Super. I said Kuririn's death was important, as well as Goku's deaths, I forgot to mention those. And who knows if we won't get character development from Piccolo after his death?

[precita]

Had the humans not died then they might have traveled to Namek with Krillin/Gohan. You really think Yamcha or Tien wouldn't have gone in search of the Dragonballs with Krillin had they survived?

[Doctor.]

Had the humans not died then they might have traveled to Namek with Krillin/Gohan. You really think Yamcha or Tenshinhan wouldn't have gone in search of the Dragonballs with Krillin had they survived?

And their interference on Namek would have been mostly irrelevant besides maybe forcing Freeza to transform further a bit more quickly.

[MozillaVulpix]

Besides for shock value, and to give us something to talk about, I think it was:

1) To give a legitimate reason for Gohan to get a rage boost that was strong enough to signal Goku. I mean, Goku couldn't sense anyone's ki from that far away in Super. If they did the same thing they did in Resurrection 'F', where everyone together is powerful enough for Goku to sense them, it would seem a little improbable.

2) So they have to go to Namek to use the Dragon Balls, and along the way, Kibitoshin will use a wish to defuse. Which is either there because they want to use both those characters later, or to show that Potara Fusion can be reversed, which might hint at Vegetto coming back.

[FortuneSSJ]

Hopefully a wake up call for Gohan.
His death was welcome for shock suprise, since no one saw it coming. Helped to build the tension and Freeza be considered a threat.

Made me feel like a anxious kid again and await Goku's arrival to turn the situation around. Just like Piccolo Daimao/Saiyan/Freeza/Super 17 arcs did back then.
Toei did a great job, but the arc was still rushed.

[fadeddreams5]

Sure, you can say that the humans dying imposes a sense of despair and increases the tension, but you can say the same thing about Piccolo in Super.

No you can't. The humans in the saiyan saga were still incredibly formidable. Seeing them get manhandled by Nappa was a legitimate shock.

Piccolo by the end of the Cell Games is fodder crap. His death brings no tension because, at the end of the day, we know or assume Goku and Vegeta should be light years ahead of him and Frieza. On the other hand, we had no clue how strong Goku had become in the saiyan saga or if his presence would make any real difference.

Piccolo's death in Super was ****ing pointless as far as impact goes and empty as far as emotions go. There was nothing there. It was done for the sake of shock value. The real shock was how awkward it was executed.

[Lionel]

As it was said -- needless shock value to try and give the impression of Freeza being intimidating when we know he soon after would be outclassed by Goku and Vegeta once they arrived. I sincerely doubt there's any kind of hidden agenda with him resolving to try and catch up with the Saiyans. That ship has long since sailed. The fact that he chose to invest the safety of the planet in two inexperienced children rather than cash in on his free day in the Room of Spirit and Time speaks volumes about how he perceives his chances at having any hope against the likes of Buu. We know Piccolo didn't bother participating in the 28th tournament; that doesn't bode well for his perceived status in the epilogue when everyone else from the U7 team barring Monaka was involved. I'm on the fence leaning towards "no" in regards to the question of whether he even trained prior to this tournament or not.

[Doctor.]

Sure, you can say that the humans dying imposes a sense of despair and increases the tension, but you can say the same thing about Piccolo in Super.

No you can't. The humans in the saiyan saga were still incredibly formidable. Seeing them get manhandled by Nappa was a legitimate shock.

Piccolo by the end of the Cell Games is fodder crap. His death brings no tension because, at the end of the day, we know or assume Goku and Vegeta should be light years ahead of him and Freeza. On the other hand, we had no clue how strong Goku had become in the saiyan saga or if his presence would make any real difference.

Piccolo's death in Super was ****ing pointless as far as impact goes and empty as far as emotions go. There was nothing there. It was done for the sake of shock value. The real shock was how awkward it was executed.

They were not formidable at all. Piccolo was the only one still strong enough and he got manhandled by Raditz a few chapters prior.

We also knew or assumed that Goku was far ahead of the humans and Piccolo, considering they were all trying to, y'know, borrow time so that Goku could get there.

[fadeddreams5]

Sure, you can say that the humans dying imposes a sense of despair and increases the tension, but you can say the same thing about Piccolo in Super.

No you can't. The humans in the saiyan saga were still incredibly formidable. Seeing them get manhandled by Nappa was a legitimate shock.

Piccolo by the end of the Cell Games is fodder crap. His death brings no tension because, at the end of the day, we know or assume Goku and Vegeta should be light years ahead of him and Freeza. On the other hand, we had no clue how strong Goku had become in the saiyan saga or if his presence would make any real difference.

Piccolo's death in Super was ****ing pointless as far as impact goes and empty as far as emotions go. There was nothing there. It was done for the sake of shock value. The real shock was how awkward it was executed.

They were not formidable at all. Piccolo was the only one still strong enough and he got manhandled by Raditz a few chapters prior.

We also knew or assumed that Goku was far ahead of the humans and Piccolo, considering they were all trying to, y'know, borrow time so that Goku could get there.

At the end of Dragon Ball, they were all top tier. After the Raditz fight, they all trained and became very strong. At the end of the day, it's obvious the saiyans were going to beat them, but the way Nappa easily did so was shocking and brought a lot of tension. What tension does Piccolo's death bring that Gohan's spanking beforehand didn't already?

Yes, but we had no clue how strong Goku had gotten, which is a reflection of how the characters in the story felt--they relied on Goku as their last hope because they had no other. Nobody actually believed he'd be that much stronger when he arrived. In Super, Goku just became a SSJG an arc before... and later started training to become even stronger! There is no reason for Frieza to be able to pose any threat at all (we don't learn about Golden Frieza until after Goku arrives).

[Doctor.]

At the end of Dragon Ball, they were all top tier. After the Raditz fight, they all trained and became very strong. At the end of the day, it's obvious the saiyans were going to beat them, but the way Nappa easily did so was shocking and brought a lot of tension. What tension does Piccolo's death bring that Gohan's spanking beforehand didn't already?

Yes, but we had no clue how strong Goku had gotten, which is a reflection of how the characters in the story felt--they relied on Goku as their last hope because they had no other. Nobody actually believed he'd be that much stronger when he arrived. In Super, Goku just became a SSJG an arc before... and later started training to become even stronger! There is no reason for Freeza to be able to pose any threat at all (we don't learn about Golden Freeza until after Goku arrives).

At the end of Dragon Ball, the strongest human, Tenshinhan, got absolutely destroyed by one of Daimao's offspring, which in turn died in one hit from Goku. Then, three years later, a very suppressed Goku was on-par with that same Tenshinhan. They were outclassed a long, long time before the Nappa fight. I didn't say that Piccolo's death was AS serious as the humans dying, I said that you could put in the same realm, useless in the grand scheme of things, but good for shock value and to impose tension.

Freeza, in his first form, was torturing Super Saiyan Gohan with the utmost ease. I think there's a reason, even if you think it's insignificant, to think Freeza would pose a threat.

[The Monkey King]

Damn I genuinely forgot he died, guess it didn't impact him at all.

As for the thread maybe his death will give him the motivation for him to get stronger and he'll seek out the 'Namekian book of legends?' and find out how to become a Super Namek God.

[fadeddreams5]

Freeza, in his first form, was torturing Super Saiyan Gohan with the utmost ease. I think there's a reason, even if you think it's insignificant, to think Freeza would pose a threat.

He was SSJ Gohan. It's almost as though Toriyama went out of his way to assure fans there was no threat. Gotenks and Buu don't fight Frieza. Gohan is nerfed beyond belief. And Master Roshi is fighting.

It's all the wrong ingredients if it was tension he was gunning for.

As for the thread maybe his death will give him the motivation for him to get stronger and he'll seek out the 'Namekian book of legends?' and find out how to become a Super Namek God.

That Namekian book isn't a major plot point. It's was just their way of writing "it is stated in Namekian legend that..."

Poor Piccolo is never receiving a buff.

[Doctor.]

He was SSJ Gohan. It's almost as though Toriyama went out of his way to assure fans there was no threat. Gotenks and Buu don't fight Freeza. Gohan is nerfed beyond belief. And Master Roshi is fighting.

It's all the wrong ingredients if it was tension he was gunning for.

Hey man, I'm not saying it was well done, the entire movie and arc were garbage, I'm saying what the point was.