Champa Arc - Will it have a main villain ?

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Re: Champa Arc - Will it have a main villain ?

Post by JulieYBM ยป Wed Mar 09, 2016 12:22 am

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apex_pretador wrote:I agree with the latter, but i think Hit will be the link between the tournament and those strong opponents from U6. Maybe he won't be defeated here yet...
I certainly think he'll be an antagonist in his own arc but I don't necessarily seem him being any sort of mastermind in this arc. What the hell could Hit possibly even do to come into genuine conflict with Gokuu and the others at this point in the Dragon Ball franchise?
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Post by Sodhi ยป Wed Mar 09, 2016 12:26 am

I somehow still believe that Dragon God Zarama is going to play a main villain role.

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Post by TekTheNinja ยป Wed Mar 09, 2016 1:55 am

I'm actually beginning to think Hit will be a more neutral character. I can't be sure, but he's not striking me as a main villain type anymore. Maybe a secondary antagonist at best. I could be completely wrong though.

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Post by DainIronfoot ยป Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:28 am

TekTheNinja wrote:I'm actually beginning to think Hit will be a more neutral character. I can't be sure, but he's not striking me as a main villain type anymore. Maybe a secondary antagonist at best. I could be completely wrong though.

For me, Hit still seems like he's going to be a villain. However, I'm growing more convinced Vados might be too

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Post by apex_pretador ยป Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:49 am

what if whis proves to be final villain - him training goku & vegeta to get them close to beerus is without motive? Maybe he can't kill beerus himself due to some reason, so he is going to use vegeta for that.
Seeing how vegeta is costing U7 team members after members , the tension between him & beerus will rise.
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Post by DainIronfoot ยป Wed Mar 09, 2016 1:16 pm

apex_pretador wrote:what if whis proves to be final villain - him training goku & vegeta to get them close to beerus is without motive? Maybe he can't kill beerus himself due to some reason, so he is going to use vegeta for that.
Seeing how vegeta is costing U7 team members after members , the tension between him & beerus will rise.

The same way you're saying it's possible that tension between Whis and Beerus might rise is the exact reason why I'm growing more convinced Vados is bad. The way she's been acting and talking to Champa just doesn't feel right.

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Post by buutenks ยป Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:08 am

MM, i cant really see whis as the villain, simply because even if beerus does something stupid, whis will just ko him in an instant.

As for vados, just seems to me that she just followed what orders champa gave her. Bring people who would win at any cost.

Plus so far, none have any motive to be a villain.

Though I'm curious what does champa want with the super dragon balls.

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Post by apex_pretador ยป Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:14 am

buutenks wrote:MM, i cant really see whis as the villain, simply because even if beerus does something stupid, whis will just ko him in an instant.

As for vados, just seems to me that she just followed what orders champa gave her. Bring people who would win at any cost.

Plus so far, none have any motive to be a villain.

Though I'm curious what does champa want with the super dragon balls.
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Post by Khin ยป Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:32 am

apex_pretador wrote:Champa wants U7 earth
Champa starts collecting Dragon Balls before he even know about the tasty foods on Earth.My bet is that he will wish to be thin so that he won't go through all the trouble with diets and shits.

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Post by apex_pretador ยป Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:29 am

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apex_pretador wrote:Champa wants U7 earth
Champa starts collecting Dragon Balls before he even know about the tasty foods on Earth.My bet is that he will wish to be thin so that he won't go through all the trouble with diets and shits.
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Post by DainIronfoot ยป Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:33 pm

buutenks wrote:MM, i cant really see whis as the villain, simply because even if beerus does something stupid, whis will just ko him in an instant.

As for vados, just seems to me that she just followed what orders champa gave her. Bring people who would win at any cost.

Plus so far, none have any motive to be a villain.

Though I'm curious what does champa want with the super dragon balls.
For Whis, maybe so but we don't know enough about Vados to be sure. I mean if you go back and watch every episode so far where she has been in, there have been little instances that had me go ???. At one point Whis looks at her with a suspicious face, her willingness to destroy a planet, her behaviour to Champa (and others). Idk, I've been looking into this more now and I really am getting a bad vibe from her.

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Post by Khin ยป Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:38 pm

And her reaction when Champa told Beerus and the others about the Super Dragon Balls.

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Post by ChronoTwigger ยป Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:49 pm

Get the spheres, revive an old entity, that's all.

Whis and Vados can turn back time. Beerus and Pancho can destroy worlds at will.
The enemy must be stronger, or it can't last an instant.
And actually, no one exist with that power. So, it get summoned. Maybe the super dragon ball wish is an hoax.
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Post by DainIronfoot ยป Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:17 pm

After todays episode, my theory of Vados being a villain is growing more and more evident.

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Post by omaro34 ยป Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:28 pm

Perhaps there is a being who is an overseer of all the 12 Gods of Destruction's, and something occurs that makes him turn evil. Then he would be on a rampage to destroy all of the 12 Universes, and its up to Goku and the gang to stop him. This being would be much more powerful than Whis or Vados.

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Post by DainIronfoot ยป Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:59 pm

omaro34 wrote:Perhaps there is a being who is an overseer of all the 12 Gods of Destruction's, and something occurs that makes him turn evil. Then he would be on a rampage to destroy all of the 12 Universes, and its up to Goku and the gang to stop him. This being would be much more powerful than Whis or Vados.

I'm just speculating wildly at this point.
At first that's what I thought was going to be the case. I now however after weeks of speculation can adamantly say that I'm convinced Vados is going to play a role in being on the villain side. Ill be very surprised now if she doesn't. Just watch how she's been acting since she's been revealed. Her behaviour towards Champa, her aggressiveness, etc. Also with today's episode, she may be bringing Hit involved too.

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Post by omaro34 ยป Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:30 pm

DainIronfoot wrote:
omaro34 wrote:Perhaps there is a being who is an overseer of all the 12 Gods of Destruction's, and something occurs that makes him turn evil. Then he would be on a rampage to destroy all of the 12 Universes, and its up to Goku and the gang to stop him. This being would be much more powerful than Whis or Vados.

I'm just speculating wildly at this point.
At first that's what I thought was going to be the case. I now however after weeks of speculation can adamantly say that I'm convinced Vados is going to play a role in being on the villain side. Ill be very surprised now if she doesn't. Just watch how she's been acting since she's been revealed. Her behaviour towards Champa, her aggressiveness, etc. Also with today's episode, she may be bringing Hit involved too.
I like Vados. Would be thrilling if Vados is evil. Which is entirely possible.
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Post by MCDaveG ยป Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:41 am

I would love to see some Saint Seiya like conspiracy. For example, Vados hiring Hit to take down the God of Destruction because of some long contained grudge (like destroying their home planet),
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Post by DainIronfoot ยป Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:23 am

MCDaveG wrote:I would love to see some Saint Seiya like conspiracy. For example, Vados hiring Hit to take down the God of Destruction because of some long contained grudge (like destroying their home planet),
with some bigger conspiracy unfolding.
That's actually similar to my current guess. Either she is hiring Hit to take out Beerus (or Whis) or to take out her own Haikishin, Champa. I'm currently leaning towards Champa, just based on how she acts towards him. While this seems kind of farfetched, in any case...I'm pretty adamant that Vados is going to play a role in being a villain.

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Post by Khin ยป Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:24 am

Why would she hire Hit ? She can do it herself way easier.

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