DragonBall VS Ratchet and Clank (Franchises, not characters)

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Re: DragonBall VS Ratchet and Clank (Franchises, not charact

Post by VejituhTheWarriorGuy » Wed May 04, 2016 9:53 am

songohan619 wrote:
VejituhTheWarriorGuy wrote:The numbers are all over the place with the different types of media. It's obvious that DB is way bigger than R&C.
Could you show me the numbers? :D If you could just link to the places that show how it`s obvious that DBZ is more popular, that would be great!
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"Dragon Ball Z merchandise was a success prior to its peak American interest, with more than $3 billion in sales from 1986-2000."
Here's how much Resurrection F made on home video when it was first released: http://postimg.org/image/u4axvujgd/
Here's how Resurrection F did in the box office in a limited theatrical release: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?pa ... ionoff.htm
Now compare that to R&C's box office: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?pa ... dclank.htm
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Post by songohan619 » Wed May 04, 2016 9:57 am

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songohan619 wrote:
VejituhTheWarriorGuy wrote:The numbers are all over the place with the different types of media. It's obvious that DB is way bigger than R&C.
Could you show me the numbers? :D If you could just link to the places that show how it`s obvious that DBZ is more popular, that would be great!
Straight from the Wikipedia article
"Dragon Ball Z merchandise was a success prior to its peak American interest, with more than $3 billion in sales from 1986-2000."
Well, yes, but I am talking about right now! And nowhere does it say that it`s more popular than Ratchet and Clank...
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Post by VejituhTheWarriorGuy » Wed May 04, 2016 10:04 am

Whatever, I'm done trying to help you with research.
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Post by VegettoEX » Wed May 04, 2016 10:05 am

songohan619 wrote:Well, yes, but I am talking about right now! And nowhere does it say that it`s more popular than Ratchet and Clank...
But how do you quantify "popularity", especially when one franchise has triple the current lifespan of the other?

You're asking questions that can't really be answered, to some degree.
VejituhTheWarriorGuy wrote:Whatever, I'm done trying to help you with research.
Then just don't respond. No-one's forcing you, here.
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Post by VejituhTheWarriorGuy » Wed May 04, 2016 10:08 am

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songohan619 wrote:Well, yes, but I am talking about right now! And nowhere does it say that it`s more popular than Ratchet and Clank...
But how do you quantify "popularity", especially when one franchise has triple the current lifespan of the other?

You're asking questions that can't really be answered, to some degree.
VejituhTheWarriorGuy wrote:Whatever, I'm done trying to help you with research.
Then just don't respond. No-one's forcing you, here.
Because helping people when they ask for help is the right thing to do but he's not accepting the facts that DB is more popular than R&C.
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Post by songohan619 » Wed May 04, 2016 10:11 am

VejituhTheWarriorGuy wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:
songohan619 wrote:Well, yes, but I am talking about right now! And nowhere does it say that it`s more popular than Ratchet and Clank...
But how do you quantify "popularity", especially when one franchise has triple the current lifespan of the other?

You're asking questions that can't really be answered, to some degree.
VejituhTheWarriorGuy wrote:Whatever, I'm done trying to help you with research.
Then just don't respond. No-one's forcing you, here.
Because helping people when they ask for help is the right thing to do but he's not accepting the facts that DB is more popular than R&C.
I`m sorry, but I still have not seen you send any actual numbers! I have no problem if DBZ is more popular, I`m just trying to figure out the facts first :D
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songohan619 wrote:Well, yes, but I am talking about right now! And nowhere does it say that it`s more popular than Ratchet and Clank...
But how do you quantify "popularity", especially when one franchise has triple the current lifespan of the other?

You're asking questions that can't really be answered, to some degree.
True :P I was thinking sales and ticket sales in the last few years.
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Post by Pantalones » Wed May 04, 2016 1:54 pm

Ratchet and Clak is a 14-year old franchise with 15 games, a movie, a comic and a manga!
Had no idea there was a movie until last week. Probably would never have known if I didn't work at Wal-Mart where there is a single small advertising banner for it next to the PS4 games, where the game-of-the-movie was already out before the actual movie was. Said game-of-the-movie has sold maybe a handful of copies since we got it in, at least during days I've been at work. Compared to, say, Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 or Star Wars Battlefront or Dark Souls 3 (that one sold out twice so far) it's not selling well at all.

Meanwhile, when Resurrection F came out on DVD a while back, they had a giant cardboard display of Battle of Gods/Resurrection F DVDs right out in the front of the electronics department and from what I remember quite a few of them sold, and pretty quickly too -- the display was jam-packed full of DVDs when it first showed up, and after a little while only one side (out of 4) had any DVDs left in it at all. We still get a copy or two each of Battle of Gods and Resurrection F every other week or so, and there's always an empty slot on the racks to put them in -- they're never overstock that needs to get sent back, unlike a lot of movies. People are definitely buying them.

And this is in a fairly small area that seems to have a lot of people who own Playstations; we never even got the most recent DBZ games in stock (I was looking for the 3DS one, too...), so I'm guessing the DBZ games haven't sold well around here in the past. Even here, a new DBZ movie sold amazingly well.

Yeah, Dragonball is much, much, much, much more popular as a franchise than Ratchet & Clank.

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Post by Xeztin » Wed May 04, 2016 3:27 pm

If your comparing game sells then one could say Call of Duty is more popular than DBZ. I've got all the original Ratchet and Clank games for PS2 but the movie and manga all came from adaptions of the game right? Dragon Ball's a Japanese comic book so I think it'd be unfair to compare these two franchises. I think the only thing you can really compare Dragon Ball to is other manga or american comic books that started out that way. Now If we had to choose I'd say Dragon Ball simply because the Ratchet games have been out on PS2 since the early 2000's and they are just now getting a movie. Where I live only one friend I had knew what Ratchet and Clank was and he was the one to introduce me to the franchise. Everybody around here knows about Dragon Ball especially DBZ even if they don't follow it anymore, it was a part of everyone's childhood. Also I'm not sure who made the Ratchet and Clank movie but if it looks Disney-ish the franchise will get a lot bigger thanks to parent's taking their kids to see it.

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Post by songohan619 » Wed May 04, 2016 3:59 pm

Xeztin wrote:If your comparing game sells then one could say Call of Duty is more popular than DBZ. I've got all the original Ratchet and Clank games for PS2 but the movie and manga all came from adaptions of the game right? Dragon Ball's a Japanese comic book so I think it'd be unfair to compare these two franchises. I think the only thing you can really compare Dragon Ball to is other manga or american comic books that started out that way. Now If we had to choose I'd say Dragon Ball simply because the Ratchet games have been out on PS2 since the early 2000's and they are just now getting a movie. Where I live only one friend I had knew what Ratchet and Clank was and he was the one to introduce me to the franchise. Everybody around here knows about Dragon Ball especially DBZ even if they don't follow it anymore, it was a part of everyone's childhood. Also I'm not sure who made the Ratchet and Clank movie but if it looks Disney-ish the franchise will get a lot bigger thanks to parent's taking their kids to see it.
Well, here in Norway, almost all of my friends know what Ratchet and Clank is, while not that many know what Dragon Ball is :P
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Post by Kuririn Fan » Wed May 04, 2016 4:54 pm

Yeah, Norway vs rest of the world.
Dragon Ball is insanely huge worldwide.

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Post by Cipher » Wed May 04, 2016 11:20 pm

I think Dragon Ball is much stronger than Rachdel and Claunk.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu May 05, 2016 12:52 am

A better comparison would be Sonic the Hedgehog.
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Post by Cipher » Thu May 05, 2016 12:57 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:A better comparison would be Sonic the Hedgehog.
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Post by Soppa Saia People » Thu May 05, 2016 4:40 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:A better comparison would be Sonic the Hedgehog.
And what a coincidence both have pretty bad fanbases! Anyway Dragon Ball is way more popular, back then and now.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu May 05, 2016 4:55 pm

Isn't it a bit unfair to be comparing a pretty much strictly video game franchise to a multi media internationally known 30+ year franchise in the first place?

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Post by sintzu » Fri May 06, 2016 7:41 am

songohan619 wrote:Could you show me the numbers ?
Ratchet has 15 games exclusively to Sony's platforms while DB has 75 games across every platform and 2 ongoing arcade games.

Ratchet has a 100 chapters or so manga while DB has a 520 chapter manga and an ongoing promotional manga.

Ratchet just got it's 1st movie while DB has 19 and 3 OVA's.

Ratchet has no animated series while DB has 4, 3 make up 511 episodes and the current ongoing on is 41 episodes in.

Dragon Ball has a lot more than that but based on the above, which one do you think is more popular ?
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Fri May 06, 2016 9:35 am

Video game franchises more popular/well-known than the entire multimedia DB franchise:

- Mario
- Sonic
- Zelda (maybe)
- Doom
- Pokemon
- Tetris
- Final Fantasy
- Pac-Man

And... that's about it.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri May 06, 2016 9:44 am

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Video game franchises more popular/well-known than the entire multimedia DB franchise:

- Mario
- Sonic
- Zelda (maybe)
- Doom
- Pokemon
- Tetris
- Final Fantasy
- Pac-Man

And... that's about it.
I would throw in Call of Duty at this point. It's sad, but it needs to be said.
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Post by Kuririn Fan » Fri May 06, 2016 10:31 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:Video game franchises more popular/well-known than the entire multimedia DB franchise:

- Mario
- Sonic
- Zelda (maybe)
- Doom
- Pokemon
- Tetris
- Final Fantasy
- Pac-Man

And... that's about it.
I would throw in Call of Duty at this point. It's sad, but it needs to be said.
Definitely Grand Theft Auto, its massive, especially V...

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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri May 06, 2016 10:52 am

Kuririn Fan wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:Video game franchises more popular/well-known than the entire multimedia DB franchise:

- Mario
- Sonic
- Zelda (maybe)
- Doom
- Pokemon
- Tetris
- Final Fantasy
- Pac-Man

And... that's about it.
I would throw in Call of Duty at this point. It's sad, but it needs to be said.
Definitely Grand Theft Auto, its massive, especially V...
Don't forget the Lego videogame franchise. It's way more popular than people give it credit for. Hell, I'd throw in Need For Speed and The Sims in there as well.

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