Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu May 26, 2016 4:39 pm

The guards would have to be stronger than the Omni-King. I mean, what kind of "guards" would they be if they were weaker than the person they are designated to protect?

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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by Nejishiki » Thu May 26, 2016 4:50 pm

Would that really have to be the case? Freeza himself had guards significantly weaker than himself and it feels like a somewhat common trope in shounen series for the, "the final boss", to be even stronger than whatever underlings he possesses. I'm not suggesting he will be an enemy, of course, but unless Toriyama wants to take us for a ride in shattering expectations as per his usual style, I think it's safe to assume Zeno's power is second to none at the current point of this series.

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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by Captain Strawberry » Thu May 26, 2016 5:15 pm

Nejishiki wrote:Would that really have to be the case? Freeza himself had guards significantly weaker than himself and it feels like a somewhat common trope in shounen series for the, "the final boss", to be even stronger than whatever underlings he possesses. I'm not suggesting he will be an enemy, of course, but unless Toriyama wants to take us for a ride in shattering expectations as per his usual style, I think it's safe to assume Zeno's power is second to none at the current point of this series.
The impression they gave, we only got a very small feats of them which is appearing in front of Goku plus they witnessed how strong Goku was and they still weren't intimidated by him. I'm just saying, it wouldn't be suprising if they weren't strong as or stronger than Goku.

The little guy rules over the 12 universes and they're probably different realm or some other world literally, like they are his 'guards'. So naturally the king would have strong guards unlike Frieza who just forcefully builds a military force so the king probably is more involved in the selection process. Do you see where I'm going with this?

Anyway, I just wouldn't find it surprising. The least is they'd be stronger than super perfect Cell.
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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Fri May 27, 2016 12:43 am

I'm still mad Goku didn't give Zeno the Monaka treatment. I'd like to see how the Guards would've reacted if that took place.
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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Fri May 27, 2016 9:04 pm

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:I'm still mad Goku didn't give Zeno the Monaka treatment. I'd like to see how the Guards would've reacted if that took place.
I don't think they would let him get close enough to try... they can probably read minds at least
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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by Kuririn Fan » Sat May 28, 2016 2:02 am

Lord Beerus wrote:The guards would have to be stronger than the Omni-King. I mean, what kind of "guards" would they be if they were weaker than the person they are designated to protect?
Simple. They're weaker than him, but stronger than anyone else. And look at Freeza and his Dodoria and Zarbon.

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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by Smilodon » Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:20 pm

Kuririn Fan wrote: Simple. They're weaker than him, but stronger than anyone else. And look at Freeza and his Dodoria and Zarbon.
Each fighter from Ginyu force was much stronger than Dodoria and Zarbon (Gurudo wasn't, but his technique was unique). Zen'o still have the Grand Priest, so the guards would be below the angels (each angel is responsible for an universe. So they need to be stronger than everybody else...The guards are above hakaishins, for sure...But below angels in my opinion.
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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:25 pm

No way to tell, most likely above Hakaishins, though.

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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by Captain Strawberry » Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:59 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:The guards would have to be stronger than the Omni-King. I mean, what kind of "guards" would they be if they were weaker than the person they are designated to protect?
It could be a status thing, you know, to symbolize power and authority
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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by DBZ Macky » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:12 am

We had Goku commenting on Daishinkan's power while he said nothing about the guards.
I think that indicates that he is at least below Daishinkan and possibly even Whis and Vados.
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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by Smilodon » Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:49 pm

DBZ Macky wrote:We had Goku commenting on Daishinkan's power while he said nothing about the guards.
I think that indicates that he is at least below Daishinkan and possibly even Whis and Vados.
But Goku said that Daishinkan seems to be nothing special, but he think he is strong. Goku isn't sure about his power...
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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by MagmonKai » Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:26 pm

I wonder where these Guards even come from...now that two zenos are here there are two more "guards" in some shots there's just two, and some there's four of them. We know Zeno doesn't fight he just Hakai's shit and be done with it. Maybe these guys are really to protect the mortals/lesser beings from him and not the other way around. They could also be in the top 5. Great Priest #1, and then the 4 guards?

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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by saunasolmu » Thu Jun 01, 2017 4:38 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:The guards would have to be stronger than the Omni-King. I mean, what kind of "guards" would they be if they were weaker than the person they are designated to protect?
They're more likely supposed to protect anyone from annoying the Omni-King.

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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by DrakenballP » Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:24 pm

No doubt about it stronger than Goku and I wouldn't be surprised if we found something out about them during this Tournament.
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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by Jack Bz » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:55 pm

Stronger than a God of Destruction, weaker than an Angel. They have consistently shown fear/anxiety around Zeno, like in reaction to how Goku acts around him etc, which the angels as far as I recall have never shown. The angels are also direct descendants of (or at least related to) the Grand Priest, who is the strongest being in the universe in traditional terms.

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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by MagmonKai » Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:52 pm

Jack Bz wrote:Stronger than a God of Destruction, weaker than an Angel. They have consistently shown fear/anxiety around Zeno, like in reaction to how Goku acts around him etc, which the angels as far as I recall have never shown. The angels are also direct descendants of (or at least related to) the Grand Priest, who is the strongest being in the universe in traditional terms.
In the anime he's stated as being in the top 5, not that he was directly #1 like in the Manga!

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