Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

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Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by DaimaoSoldier » Sat May 21, 2016 7:11 pm

Everyone's talking about the Omni Kings strength but if he has guards they must be pretty darn strong too right? I've heard some say around Whis or Vados level of strength but I find that very unlikely. At most maybe around Ssj God Goku during the Battle of Gods arc and at least low-mid tier Buu saga characters. Thoughts?

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Post by Blackstripe » Sat May 21, 2016 11:02 pm

DaimaoSoldier wrote:Everyone's talking about the Omni Kings strength but if he has guards they must be pretty darn strong too right? I've heard some say around Whis or Vados level of strength but I find that very unlikely. At most maybe around Ssj God Goku during the Battle of Gods arc and at least low-mid tier Buu saga characters. Thoughts?
Why would his guards be only as strong as SSG Gokuu? That's completely ineffectual. Not to mention they completely headed off Gokuu with little difficulty, so I imagine they're a lot tougher than that.

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun May 22, 2016 7:31 am

Blackstripe wrote:
DaimaoSoldier wrote:Everyone's talking about the Omni Kings strength but if he has guards they must be pretty darn strong too right? I've heard some say around Whis or Vados level of strength but I find that very unlikely. At most maybe around Ssj God Goku during the Battle of Gods arc and at least low-mid tier Buu saga characters. Thoughts?
Why would his guards be only as strong as SSG Gokuu? That's completely ineffectual. Not to mention they completely headed off Gokuu with little difficulty, so I imagine they're a lot tougher than that.
Well one could make the argument that being weaker than omni-king at all would make them "completely ineffectual".
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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by Cetra » Sun May 22, 2016 10:17 am

Zenou does not need guards that are stronger than him. Freeza also just has an army to have one.
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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by Blackstripe » Sun May 22, 2016 1:42 pm

Cetra wrote:Zenou does not need guards that are stronger than him. Freeza also just has an army to have one.
Freeza doesn't just have an army to have one. Freeza is an individual trying to actively rule an Empire. Despite his power, he can't be everywhere at once, so he has his army to keep control of his territories in his name, that is the purpose that they serve. Otherwise, he would have to be constantly rush back and forth to try and suppress every little rebellion.

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Post by dbgtFO » Sun May 22, 2016 1:49 pm

Stronger than Whis and Vados at the very least.
It would be very weird, if the attendants to the King of Everything were weaker than attendants to Gods of Destructions in individual universes.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun May 22, 2016 3:27 pm

dbgtFO wrote:Stronger than Whis and Vados at the very least.
It would be very weird, if the attendants to the King of Everything were weaker than attendants to Gods of Destructions in individual universes.
I dunno. At the very least, I imagine Zeno's attendants are stronger than the 12 Hakaishin in order to protect Zeno from them if one of the gods of destruction were to try to do something stupid. I don't see any significant reason for Zeno's assistants to be beyond the power of the Hakaishin attendants (though they very well could be). Despite the one's we've seen being stronger than their masters, the Hakaishin attendants probably aren't as much of a threat to even consider. The two we've seen already have some sass towards their cats and have taken action to keep them in check with more important matters. So I'd wager they'd probably obey Zeno over their masters. (Though, they were also the only "gods" not to bow in any way when he arrived...)

If I had to guess, based on the above, and not much else, I'd say they're probably in the Hakaishin assistant tier.
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Post by Friezacooler » Sun May 22, 2016 4:46 pm

I wouldn't count out them being stronger then Omni-king himself.

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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by Cetra » Sun May 22, 2016 5:43 pm

Blackstripe wrote:
Cetra wrote:Zenou does not need guards that are stronger than him. Freeza also just has an army to have one.
Freeza doesn't just have an army to have one. Freeza is an individual trying to actively rule an Empire. Despite his power, he can't be everywhere at once, so he has his army to keep control of his territories in his name, that is the purpose that they serve. Otherwise, he would have to be constantly rush back and forth to try and suppress every little rebellion.

Even Toriyama-san said Freeza would not need an army. Sorry, I believe him more than I believe you. And I made it very clear that I was talking about power.
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Cetra wrote:Even Toriyama-san said Freeza would not need an army. Sorry, I believe him more than I believe you. And I made it very clear that I was talking about power.
What Blackstripe said was perfectly logical. What Toriyama said or didn't say doesn't change that.

How thank you for this answer. Except what Blackstripe said was not in the same context as what I said therefore not asked for.
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Post by rereboy » Sun May 22, 2016 5:50 pm

Cetra wrote:Even Toriyama-san said Freeza would not need an army. Sorry, I believe him more than I believe you. And I made it very clear that I was talking about power.
What Blackstripe said was perfectly logical. What Toriyama said or didn't say doesn't change that.

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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by Pocket-God » Sun May 22, 2016 7:12 pm

I peg them in the same ball park as Beerus and Champa, I'd say they could be up to 10% weaker or 10% stronger than the purple cat bros but they'd still be quite a bit below Whis and Vados.

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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sun May 22, 2016 7:44 pm

I think Whis and Vados were directly appointed by the Omni King to keep an eye on Beerus and Champa, not so much take care of them. Hence why they don't bow to him (they likely have a more informal relationship with the Omni King). He's probably appointed other attendants for every God of Destruction in existence because they are all likely instinctively chaotic and reckless.

Likewise, he has his own attendants he's assigned for himself, who are very likely as strong as Vados and Whis, or slightly weaker.
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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by FoolsGil » Mon May 23, 2016 9:58 am

If the Omni King can wipe out the universe, his guards must at least be strong enough to rip and tear the Gods of Destruction, probably Whis and Vados too.

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Post by Smilodon » Mon May 23, 2016 3:34 pm

FoolsGil wrote:If the Omni King can wipe out the universe, his guards must at least be strong enough to rip and tear the Gods of Destruction, probably Whis and Vados too.
But if you remember Freeza guards was Zarbon and Dodoria...Much weaker than Ginyu force for example.
It's very soon to talk, but I think those guards are above Beerus/Champa, but below Whis/Vados (maybe a little...Or the same power).
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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by MaxZ » Thu May 26, 2016 4:58 am

I think they are almost certainly far above Whis and Vados, and I wouldn't rule it out that they could even be stronger than Zeno himself.

He even held their hands when they transported out, similar to how Beerus and Champa travel with Whis and Vados respectively. It seems to indicate that at the very least, Zeno's guards have superior mobility compared to him.

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Post by BitchIlooklikeGoku » Thu May 26, 2016 5:06 am

Weaker than Mr. Popo but stronger than Vados.

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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by Captain Strawberry » Thu May 26, 2016 8:35 am

I think they're stronger than people think. I wouldn't be surprised if they were stronger than Goku.
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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu May 26, 2016 12:19 pm

I just wonder if Goku is going to ask the Omni-King to fight him the next time they meet.
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Post by Captain Strawberry » Thu May 26, 2016 12:28 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:I just wonder if Goku is going to ask the Omni-King to fight him the next time they meet.
I hope not...
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Re: Strength of Omni Kings Guards?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu May 26, 2016 12:35 pm

Captain Strawberry wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:I just wonder if Goku is going to ask the Omni-King to fight him the next time they meet.
I hope not...
He probably will. You just know he will.
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