Is there really a reason to make Mirai Trunks suffer again?

[Nejishiki]

fadeddreams5: Can you truly say that line of reasoning could be used for Goku like it was for Future Trunks? Goku, at that point in the story, is committed to fighting Piccolo for as long as he lives due to both his desire to keep God alive and having a worthy rival to keep him on his toes since the threat of Piccolo retaliating in the future was a possibility that he had to keep in mind.

In comparison, Future Trunks' only relationship with battle is horror. His motivation for training was for protection instead of continual self-improvement as inspired by the Turtle Hermit. The advantage and disadvantage of living in the future is that he knows things shouldn't go wrong anymore after dealing with the Jinzoningen, but ultimately the new arc has proved him wrong. I mean, I don't think it's inherently wrong to wish him a well-deserved rest so let's root for him to earn it once again!

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

Trunks never really gave me a reason to hope he has great rest of his life because he never really showed how much it bothered him in the first place. He swallowed his tears and pressed on. He's so disconnected from the others because of his general calm, polite personality; I view him as less tragic, but more pragmatic.

He seemed prepared for the worst, I think, in place where, say, sleeping in without fear of waking to sound of ki blasts meant more to him than the great moral victory of erasing the Androids entirely. The first time we see him, his goal is to avert disaster, the second time, having already returned to the future at least once, was to find a way to the "stop the bleeding", and his composure hardly changes between the two. Considering Toriyama likely did not iron out Dragon Ball's Time Travel rules in his own mind that far in advance, he probably lucked out there.

I like that there's calamity in Trunks' future. My problem isn't that he's suffering again. In fact, I think people's logic that "his story concluded with peace" is silly, given that we could have said the same thing when Goku defeated Piccolo.

My gripe is that Trunks has to resort to going back in time... again.

Give us a story that is actually about Future Trunks. I mean really. You can do that without losing the "mechanical" nature of future world concept.

[ABED]

Trunks never really gave me a reason to hope he has great rest of his life because he never really showed how much it bothered him in the first place. He swallowed his tears and pressed on. He's so disconnected from the others because of his general calm, polite personality; I view him as less tragic, but more pragmatic.

He showed that he was bothered by it a lot. People process grief differently, and I like that Trunks is otherwise nice and calm but when he's confronted by the Cyborgs he's often upset or afraid. He's not non-challant. He reminds me of Barry Allen on The Flash. He has a sad story, but he's a well adjusted person. However, when he's in the thick of a dilemma he does show that it bothers him and he often reacts emotionally.

[fadeddreams5]

fadeddreams5: Can you truly say that line of reasoning could be used for Goku like it was for Future Trunks? Goku, at that point in the story, is committed to fighting Piccolo for as long as he lives due to both his desire to keep God alive and having a worthy rival to keep him on his toes since the threat of Piccolo retaliating in the future was a possibility that he had to keep in mind.

In comparison, Future Trunks' only relationship with battle is horror. His motivation for training was for protection instead of continual self-improvement as inspired by the Turtle Hermit. The advantage and disadvantage of living in the future is that he knows things shouldn't go wrong anymore after dealing with the Jinzoningen, but ultimately the new arc has proved him wrong. I mean, I don't think it's inherently wrong to wish him a well-deserved rest so let's root for him to earn it once again!

Well, I meant it more from a story perspective. As in, the manga could have ended with Goku beating his foe and marrying Chi Chi, but it continued. Different characters, sure, but Trunks never died. In the end of the day, he found peace, but peace never lasts.

If anything, people have predicted his world to be fucked up again for years. Like, what if Buu or Dabura arrived? How about Beerus? At the very least, it's not a rehashed villain. But given the nature of the series, he was destined to go through this hell again, and will continue to for all eternity. lol.

Okay, I'm being harsh. His future didn't need to be facing Armageddon again, but he was always going to face a new threat, no matter how his story ended in the manga. That's not the problem. The problem is Trunks having to resort to distorting time and space, and asking for help, to save his planet... again. It's time for him to put his big boy pants and solve his own problems with the resources available to him in his vast universe.

[Nejishiki]

I can get along with that sentiment. It does give the impression he always has an out with his problems by using time travel. It would be interesting if this arc were written to be a short story where he finds his own strength and say, I don't know, discovers how to manipulate god ki on his own after feeling foolish that he wasn't as experienced in the basics like his father and younger teacher were in the alternate timeline. Anything to reflect how much he grew from his experiences would be nice as he vows to never time travel again because Future Cell was technically his fault in the first place.

[successoroffate]

I think his timeline is destined to be burden with chaos and tragedy. Not forgetting that time travel is not helping neither. So, is basically choose your poison for Trunks,Bulma and now Mai.

[Hellspawn28]

Fans wanted Future Trunks to return back for years and Toriyama seem like that he was given to fan demand. I still remember when people hated GT Trunks for not being as cool and badass as Future Trunks.

[dbzfan7]

Fans wanted Future Trunks to return back for years and Toriyama seem like that he was given to fan demand. I still remember when people hated GT Trunks for not being as cool and badass as Future Trunks.

Did he? According to Kei the basic ideas seem to have been handed to him.

I can't tell you the source because it's insider information, but he surely got turned off and reluctant to keep being involved with Super, so they had to provide him with some basic ideas for the plot of the new Goku Black arc.

[ABED]

It's time for him to put his big boy pants and solve his own problems with the resources available to him in his vast universe.

One of those resources is time travel and it's hardly an out. Any changes he makes to the past only results in a different timeline. His present isn't affected by anything he does. Going to the past just allowed him to get stronger.

[Big Black Sayian]

Misery is what fans thrive off of. Just ask Game of Thrones fans.

[Lord Beerus]

I admit, I did not want Future Trunks to return and felt like his story wrapped up perfectly with the closure he got. But, and it's a very big "but", if they properly justify Future Trunks returning, then I will welcome the return of the character. But I fear this will not happen as Super so far has had a very bad track record when it comes to explaining key details.

I can certainly why Future Trunks was brought back, as he is one of the most popular characters in the franchise with one of, if the best, back story out of all the characters in the franchise. And for a lot of people, tragic stories evict the greatest amount of emotions, and for Future Trunks, it seems wherever he goes, tragedy seems to follow.

[Captain Strawberry]

I admit, I did not want Future Trunks to return and felt like his story wrapped up perfectly with the closure he got.

As long as it's a good story like good storytelling, I'm cool with it!

[sangofe]

Fans wanted Future Trunks to return back for years and Toriyama seem like that he was given to fan demand. I still remember when people hated GT Trunks for not being as cool and badass as Future Trunks.

I didn't get the feeling it was a fan pitching him the idea...

[Baggie_Saiyan]

As long as they have a good reason for it that's not retreading the Cyborg arc, then sure. They wrapped up his story pretty well, so to basically have another threat is risky. If it's an excuse to have Goku and Vegeta punch something, and add fanservice with Trunks, then this isn't good.

Considering how Super has a hard on for Z throwbacks that's what I'm worried about the most.

[TheQuazz]

I don't get it, the others suffer all the time too. The only difference is that the fighters in the present timeline have the strength to face any challenge they get while future Trunks doesn't.

Since the android arc, in the present timeline we've had Boo, Beerus, Golden Freeza and Champa as opponents. In the future timeline we've had just Black.

Yeah, but everyone in Future Trunk's time is dead. Like, actually dead.

[DBZAOTA482]

I don't get it, the others suffer all the time too. The only difference is that the fighters in the present timeline have the strength to face any challenge they get while future Trunks doesn't.

Since the android arc, in the present timeline we've had Boo, Beerus, Golden Freeza and Champa as opponents. In the future timeline we've had just Black.

Not really... the villains come and go in the present time. Trunks lived his entire life worrying if he and everyone he knows would be killed by one threat.

[AnimeMaakuo]

This is just another failed attempt to milk the series. They are reusing ideas again, just like how they did with Freeza. Maybe this time we'll get a new movie, where Gohan becomes Super Saiyan God Saiyan Super Bluper Saiyan God Saiyan 5 or whatever, and fight the true God of the series who can kill anyone with a single breath. He'll look like Birus, but instead of purple, he'll be gold. Yeah! And who knows, maybe Trunks will fuse with him and make the Ultimate God Super Saiyan God Ultima God Saiyan Super Ultima. After that, all Z fighters will fuse to kill Black. Don't worry though, this time they'll bring them back and it won't have to make sense because Toriyama forgets and that's OK. Everyone will be extremely strong somehow, too.

In all seriousness, I hate where Dragon Ball is going. Maybe this time they'll run it far enough into the ground where it stops making sense completely and nobody watches it anymore. I'm ready for them to leave it alone.

[Fizzer]

Toriyama has promised a more complex plot than unusual for Dragon Ball, encompassing multiple universes and multiple timelines. Future Trunks and Bulma, in possession of a time machine, seem like a perfect way to kick that off while also bringing back a fan favourite character. The future world has probably seen many years of peace anyway, just like the present world did before Majin Buu turned up and wiped out all of humanity then destroyed the Earth, and then again before Beerus and then Freeza turned up. Just like all the other characters, Future Trunks can experience times of peace and times of hardship.

[jjgp1112]

Is there really a reason to have conflict occur in any storyline?

[TheMikado]

Is there really a reason to have conflict occur in any storyline?

I think the problem people have is that Trunks problems are so terrible that the ONLY solution/recourse he has is to jump into a time machine and rewind time...
Like the Frieza stuff, terrible, but we can get more dragonballs! Buu extinction, horrifying, but we can fix it in our own timeline without resorting to a time machine!

Trunks.. enemies too strong and killed everyone, guess it's time to jump in the time machine.. Why does everyone have to continuously die and live in a post-apocalyptic world in Future Trunks timeline?