Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by ABED » Mon Jun 13, 2016 12:00 pm

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WittyUsername wrote:It started off as a gag in BOG.
Like how Vegeta acting OOC went from a one time thing to save his family to him acting like that all the time.
There's already a thread for this issue.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Jun 13, 2016 12:08 pm

SSJ YUSUKE wrote:It's probably the only relationship that makes sense in the whole series. Just from this episode when they interact you can see that they both have affection for each other.
When Trunks and Mai interact I can believe that they could be in a relationship or at least have genuine affection for each other, like the scene where they are about to leave for capsule corp it's a tense scene but for second it is broken by the cat meowing past them which eases the tension and for a second they look at each other and you can see that maybe if things were not so messed up they would probably be together. The way Trunks reacts when she "dies"( come on, she's going to have major role in this arc) just emphasises how much she means to him.
Anyone who believes the GokuXChiChi or VegetaXBulma makes more sense is either too young or knows nothing about relationships.
They barely interacted at all... how can you feel for them? It's almost as bad as Krillin x #18. Stop telling silly jokes, please.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by Puto » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:30 pm

For those saying that she's mentally 60 despite having a 30-year old body, that might not necessarily be true—if you go by how Pilaf acted in BoG, he seems to have the mindset of a child in there given the scene where he starts pranking everything in Bulma's basement. So despite having the memories of an adult, he seems to have the mindset of his physical age.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

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SSJ YUSUKE wrote:It's probably the only relationship that makes sense in the whole series. Just from this episode when they interact you can see that they both have affection for each other.
When Trunks and Mai interact I can believe that they could be in a relationship or at least have genuine affection for each other, like the scene where they are about to leave for capsule corp it's a tense scene but for second it is broken by the cat meowing past them which eases the tension and for a second they look at each other and you can see that maybe if things were not so messed up they would probably be together. The way Trunks reacts when she "dies"( come on, she's going to have major role in this arc) just emphasises how much she means to him.
Anyone who believes the GokuXChiChi or VegetaXBulma makes more sense is either too young or knows nothing about relationships.
They barely interacted at all... how can you feel for them? It's almost as bad as Krillin x #18. Stop telling silly jokes, please.
Except Kuririn and 18 isn't bad at all. There's proper set up.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:50 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Otaku like lolicon and shoutacon.
I don't know where you got the idea from? Shoutacon like Boku No Pico is the type stuff that anime fans avoid since you can get lock up for watching stuff like that (At least in the US. Not sure about Japan).
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by samuraix123 » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:48 pm

Hero wrote:I love Future Trunks x Future Mai, because it shows that Trunks found some sort of happiness after defeating the Androids. Yeah, he had Bulma, but he had no friends and Gohan was dead, so there was definitely a lot missing from his life socially. Him getting a girlfriend that loves him back, from what I can tell, makes me smile.
Definitely agree! the guy has it and keeps getting it rough compared to us in our timeline.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:00 pm

Trunks needs a women, and obviously some of the writers of Super watched BOG and thought, "Why not?" It's not gonna have a major effect on the series or how the plot of Super progresses, so I don't see a major issue with it at all. And Dragon Ball has a long history with weird relationships, so this is pretty much par for the course.

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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by ABED » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:20 pm

I'm fine with weird relationships, sometimes there's magic in them. Oddly enough, I like Bulma and Vegeta as a couple.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by JulieYBM » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:29 pm

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JulieYBM wrote:Otaku like lolicon and shoutacon.
I don't know where you got the idea from? Shoutacon like Boku No Pico is the type stuff that anime fans avoid since you can get lock up for watching stuff like that (At least in the US. Not sure about Japan).
I've been reading through a handful of texts lately regarding Otaku culture, like Psychiatrist Saitou Tamaki's Beautiful Fighting Girl and Patrick W. Galbraith's The Moe Manifesto. Both are extremely insightful, covering not just interviews with the common Otaku, but creators in the industry or figures who speak out about it. Galbraith's interview with Henry Jenkins goes a little more in-depth regarding some of Galbraith's more personal experiences, but if you can't afford his actual book I would suggest also reading his papers for Duke University on Academia's website. Saitou Tamaki's book is especially important. When it was released in Japan it helped to enlighten the public and mend some of the damage done by the Miyazaki Tsutomu case. Ootsuka Eiji (interviewed in The Moe Manifesto) was especially vocal about helping to combat the negative media image of Otaku, too.

This is to say nothing of the wealth of lolicon and shoutcon animated series produced each year or self-published works released at Comic Market and other Japanese meet-ups. It's a popular and extremely important part of Otaku culture in Japan.

I should also add, US and other western fans of Japanese comics, animation and games are not 'Otaku', at least as defined by Saitou. There are various differences as detailed by Saitou in his book, but I think the most striking is that Otaku are able to masturbate to two-dimensional girls. Even so, I don't necessarily think that alone would qualify one as an Otaku. The truly striking feature of the Otaku is their ability to juggle multiple fictional contexts. They're dispassionate about their passions and able to treat them with no sacredness.

...Y'know, I wrote all that, but when I think about it, I don't know how anyone could consider Yamamuro's designs 'cute', so at the end of the day maybe it's all a moot point? :lol:
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by Cipher » Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:18 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:I didn't know he pushed for that in F. I can imagine Toei not liking the gag, but liking the idea of an actual relationship. Just seems more up their alley.

I don't have anything against the relationship, myself. It is, however, the most random pairing in DB. And this is the series where BulmaxVegeta became a thing.
I can't imagine it being anyone's idea but Toriyama's, especially considering Toei dropped the Mai/Trunks subplot from their TV adaptation. It's too funny and weird.

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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by Chuquita » Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:21 pm

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fadeddreams5 wrote:I didn't know he pushed for that in F. I can imagine Toei not liking the gag, but liking the idea of an actual relationship. Just seems more up their alley.

I don't have anything against the relationship, myself. It is, however, the most random pairing in DB. And this is the series where BulmaxVegeta became a thing.
I can't imagine it being anyone's idea but Toriyama's, especially considering Toei dropped the Mai/Trunks subplot from their TV adaptation. It's too funny and weird.
I feel like all the Pilaf Gang stuff is Toriyama's ideas. If he's looking over Toyotarou's work I imagine that's how Pilaf Gang got into the manga version of Super's Champa arc while Toei's version has them completely absent.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by TekTheNinja » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:54 am

Because the pairing is fucking adorable. :P

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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by gogeta97 » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:54 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Otaku like lolicon and shoutacon.
"Many anime fans are also pedophiles" isn't really a good justification. :roll:
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by ryou766 » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:44 pm

Is it that much of an issue? Regardless of whether or not it happens, like Lord Beerus said, it's not like it would majorly effect the plot in any way.

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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by WittyUsername » Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:03 am

ryou766 wrote:Is it that much of an issue? Regardless of whether or not it happens, like Lord Beerus said, it's not like it would majorly effect the plot in any way.
It's not a huge deal, but I'm just confused as to why it's even a thing. Even Bulma x Vegeta at least had the excuse of providing a justification for how another Super Saiyan could exist. Mai x Trunks just seems really random, and it also carries some creepy implications if we're talking about Kid Trunks x Mai, which is how this whole thing got started.

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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by ryou766 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:19 am

I thought of it as nothing more than a gag when Mai and Trunks started becoming a "thing", sort of speak, in BoG.

But, yeah. Now it seems as though they're actually going through with it. It started off as, "oh, that's cute" to "oh, alright".

I have no particular opinion about it; I'm simply just going with the flow at this point.

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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by Kuririn Fan » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:37 am

Goku x Bulma forever! <3

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ryou766 wrote:Is it that much of an issue? Regardless of whether or not it happens, like Lord Beerus said, it's not like it would majorly effect the plot in any way.
It's not a huge deal, but I'm just confused as to why it's even a thing. Even Bulma x Vegeta at least had the excuse of providing a justification for how another Super Saiyan could exist. Mai x Trunks just seems really random, and it also carries some creepy implications if we're talking about Kid Trunks x Mai, which is how this whole thing got started.
Random maybe, but that doesn't really matter, what matters is if they have chemistry.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by TekTheNinja » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:09 am

Kuririn Fan wrote:Goku x Bulma forever! <3
Naw screw that...

I do miss Yamcha x Bulma though. :[
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JulieYBM wrote:Otaku like lolicon and shoutacon.
"Many anime fans are also pedophiles" isn't really a good justification. :roll:
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by TheGreatness25 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:37 am

My thing is: was someone just too lazy to create a new female character and decided to just recycle a random old one instead? She never had much of a positive development, nor do fans get any emotion from seeing her after all of these years (at least I think). I would be a lot happier if they picked any young girl who was a background character during the Boo arc. Or was this deliberately done just to purposely drive another nail into GT's coffin? Oh well, I can't be convinced that a new female character wouldn't be a lot better. At least a new badass female who was powerful and could actually be useful in certain end-of-the-world situations instead of just shooting a gun.

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