Lord Beerus wrote:Dragon Ball has always been about outdoing itself in terms of the power hierarchy. We thought after Majin Boo nothing would top that then GT came along. Then we though nothing would top GT then Beerus and Whis were introduced. Then we thought nothing would top Beerus and Whis then along came Zeno. It's only a matter of time before we are given something even grander in the scheme of Dragon Ball than Zeno. Trust me, it'll happen.
I didn't..
While Majin Buu was great there's still room for more powerful foes. But then came Beerus. And indeed. How do you top a God of Destruction? Introduce others gods of destruction! Then how do you top them? Introduce their boss, ruler of the multiverse! How do you top that?
You CAN'T. Unless you introduce my example above^. But i always knew that there would be a ruler of the multiverse. So i knew there were others stronger than Beerus.(destroyer gods only ofcourse) There's very little room for characters stronger than Zeno though.
Lord Beerus wrote:Dragon Ball has always been about outdoing itself in terms of the power hierarchy. We thought after Majin Boo nothing would top that then GT came along. Then we though nothing would top GT then Beerus and Whis were introduced. Then we thought nothing would top Beerus and Whis then along came Zeno. It's only a matter of time before we are given something even grander in the scheme of Dragon Ball than Zeno. Trust me, it'll happen.
I didn't..
While Majin Buu was great there's still room for more powerful foes. But then came Beerus. And indeed. How do you top a God of Destruction? Introduce others gods of destruction! Then how do you top them? Introduce their boss, ruler of the multiverse! How do you top that?.
Introduce an omniverse.
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Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Lord Beerus wrote:Dragon Ball has always been about outdoing itself in terms of the power hierarchy. We thought after Majin Boo nothing would top that then GT came along. Then we though nothing would top GT then Beerus and Whis were introduced. Then we thought nothing would top Beerus and Whis then along came Zeno. It's only a matter of time before we are given something even grander in the scheme of Dragon Ball than Zeno. Trust me, it'll happen.
I didn't..
While Majin Buu was great there's still room for more powerful foes. But then came Beerus. And indeed. How do you top a God of Destruction? Introduce others gods of destruction! Then how do you top them? Introduce their boss, ruler of the multiverse! How do you top that?.
Introduce an omniverse.
If there really are other universe clusters that would be a little too ridiculous even for me lmao.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
Disclaimer: I might get into a disagreement with you. Sometimes I might even get feisty about it. I'll never harbor negative feelings because of it though. I hope you feel the same way!
I made a bet with Alee9977 that Vegeta won't be beaten quickly by an opponent. If I lose, I switch my avatar to Vegeta getting beat by hit. If I win, he switches it to Vegeta holding Black by his hair. This will last a month.
Gig wrote:He probably gave his button to Goku (ep55) just to "play" together... not to help him.
Of course he did, it is implicitily stated ''to be friends''. Testosteron Deebeezee freaks are just: ''Grah, Goku best friends with most powerful being in the universe, uuurrh, SLAUGHTER, no more tension!''
I don't know, there are just some people thinking in the lines of smashing someones head and power levels only.
FoolsGil wrote:There's a clear difference between the standard anime trope of adding stronger characters that are in opposition with the protagonist, and Super adding stronger characters that are allied with the protagonist.
In RoF, what diminished the tension wasn't that Freeza would have to fight two SSJBlues (because even first time seeing the movie, when Goku did it I knew Vegeta could do it) it was that Beers and Whis were eating cake in the background. No matter what they were gonna say, they would interfere, and in the end, Whis did.
Now Goku is friends with this series God with a capital G. No one can touch him. If anything the story will end really fast because if Zuno hears that Goku's in trouble, he's going to end it. Where's the tension in that? Story will end quicker because Goku will just retire, let Beers and Zuno fight his battles.
This, there are so many ways out of a situation its hard to feel any tension.
Lol, what is all this talk that they cant introduce a character stronger than Zeno? This is fiction, they can introduce 100 characters stronger than Zeno if they so wish.
Plus, if the series continues to be liked, no doubt there will be new characters who are more powerful than current ones.
buutenks wrote:Lol, what is all this talk that they cant introduce a character stronger than Zeno? This is fiction, they can introduce 100 characters stronger than Zeno if they so wish.
Plus, if the series continues to be liked, no doubt there will be new characters who are more powerful than current ones.
Yeah, a simple multiverse would be enough to introduce an infinite amount of Zeno if they want. Darkseid, Franklin Richards all became multiversal gods at some point. Thanos would HOTU would make Zeno look like fodder
Toyotarō: … I get the feeling I’ve just heard something amazing (laughs). Lord Beerus and Whis turn up in Dragon Ball Super, and have become an unsurpassable wall for Goku and the gang. What do the two of them mean to you?
Toriyama: Well… First off, right now I don’t have any plans for Goku and Vegeta to surpass Beerus and Whis.
Obviously it's a great idea.
That's the whole point of db. Goku and Vegeta growing stronger and looking for stronger people.
Now we have more than 10 people stronger than our heroes, which as an idea is good
