Dubs of the original three series that put in the best effort.

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Re: Dubs of the original three series that put in the best effort.

Post by Cetra » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:03 pm

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TheBlackPaladin wrote: Well, I've heard what you've heard too, Bansho64, and from somebody who is German. Sometimes it's hard to factually qualify how "good" or "bad" a dub is. There's some subjectivity involved. Even with FUNimation's Kai dub, there's some debate over how good it is. The general consensus--on Kanzenshuu, anyway--is that it's a massive improvement, but whether it was enough of an improvement will vary from person to person. For me, it totally was (and then some!), but others, for understandable reasons, don't think it was.
Yeah, I've heard a mixture of opinions coming from German fans. Some say it's garbage, some say it's ok, some say it's great. Same with the fans of the in-house section of the Funimation dub.

Like you say, there is some subjectivity involved when judging a dub. Everyone has their own opinion about them. I'm a bit mixed on the German one though.
Pretty sure that most Germans only say that because they think certain English lines are true. Probably the same people who complain that the GT scene with the mustache and Chichi was wrong in German and right in English - while it is actually vice-versa.

Even those more "freely" translated things or really changed things in German are very often made to be fitting for the character. As said, much is summarized, sometimes unfortunately some things are left out a bit but overall with two so skilled translators as Mr. and Mrs. Seebeck, with one of them being a Japanese native speaker, we really can be glad (not that GT was translated by them, I don't think so - it was just another example for how people might rate things). I do agree though that Germany was not strict enough with certain Battle of Gods lines. When it comes to the quality of how the voice actors do their work - that one is fantastic, I must say.
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Re: Dubs of the original three series that put in the best effort.

Post by Bansho64 » Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:25 pm

sangofe wrote: I don't know about the script quality, but one of the Korean dubs have really good character voices.
All the Korean dubs sound fantastic to me. Like, I can't pinpoint one moment where I didn't like it. It's honestly the one of the dubs where I actually thought every aspect of it is flawless. Well.......except for Freeza's voice. It's not Linda Young bad, the girl who voices him actually sounds fantastic, but the voice is a bit unfitting in my eyes. There are three Korean dubs from I've heard. Tooniverse, Champ, and SBS. I've heard from an old post on here that I saw the other day, that they're all pretty accurate and they all have fantastic acting.

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Re: Dubs of the original three series that put in the best effort.

Post by huzaifa_ahmed » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:52 am

TheBlackPaladin wrote:I can't speak for every single dub ever made, but lack of effort is usually not a problem. Even the bad dubs are directed, mixed, written, and acted by people who legitimately gave it their best...but their best just wasn't good enough for the final result to be enjoyable.
I think consistently upped pay, sure keeps competition & possibly "passion" running.

& the thing is..I'm sure FUNi soon procured the money to do their own dub, considering the low tens of millions of dollars that their adaptation made, just selling it to the network, never mind the merchandise & home video sales...but then, Toei has had the money to do an AAA-dub for ages. It's more a matter of "whoever was in charge/paid for it, didnt care/think it was worth it". That seeps into the quality of the dub. But then again, as Cipher & others have said...in an era of original-audio (often exclusively!) releases, it's kind of unnecessary to have dubs, especially when anime is so poor & barely even has money (thanks to foreign licensing, ironicly) to pay for one audio track.

Anime's niche is furthered by its foreign-ness & financial incapacity to adapt, & frankly a lot of the overseas fans arent interested in hearing the cartoony-Japanese dialogue in their native tongue anyway.

Though you have to wonder..is there a whole demographic of "I went on CrunchyRoll to check out some anime, but it was all overwhelmingly in Japanese, so I got bored" folks? It's happened to me, & I can definitely imagine that, seeing it's happened to me several time, & even now I have issues watching live-action Asian films.

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