Am I the only one bothered by how friendly everyone is with Beerus now?

[Lord Beerus]

That scene always make me laugh since they treat Vegeta's mass-murdering past like he had a drug addition and he's now clean. Every time they think Vegeta maybe evil again, it's treated like, 'he fell off the wagon'.

Most of this is culture clash. I remember reading that in Japan they are extremely forgiving of one's crimes if you repent or feel real shame. Which is why so many villains tend to reform in anime/manga.

Oh wow, I never made the comparison but that's crazy accurate It really IS like a drug addiction for them. Then again, does Vegeta ever really say or imply he's sorry for all that he's done? I know he apologizes for Gohan "dying" when Fat Boo attacks him but I don't recall anything else.

When Goku mentioned Vegeta wanting to destroy Earth back during the Champa Saga, Vegeta got irritated for Goku bringing up the past. That is the closest I can remember to Vegeta being sorry about that part of his life. Similar to Piccolo being upset when Krillin mentioned how he was once the Demon King back in the Buu Saga.

I believe there was also another moment in the Cell arc when Gohan save Vegeta's life for a blast directed at his by Super Perfect Cell, which lead to Gohan breaking his arm to protect him, and Vegeta told Gohan he was sorry for getting him into this mess.

[dbs fanboy]

To be honest, Beerus hasn't destroyed anything else since BoG (except Zamasu), and the Earth has trully changed him, that might be one of the reasons, anyway, Beerus is pretty much calm and friendly when he's not annoyed, so as long as he doesn't suddenly snaps, i don't think that there would be a problem.

It's still weird thought.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

It's gotten to the point where Beerus is now scared of Bulma. And it's great! He's officially part of the gang now.

[omaro34]

I'm still annoyed they're fine with Vegeta, never mind Beerus.

Yamcha got his lady taken away from him by the man who was indirectly responsible for his death and who even laughed when he died and said "get this trash off the battlefield". The same man who constantly mocked Yamcha for years to come, and there was nothing Yamcha could do about it. Yet he still talks to Bulma and tolerates Vegeta. Its absolutely incredible how the Earthlings tolerate the pint sized Saiyan.

If I was Yamcha I would disappear like Launch did. Or I would somehow get my hands on the Dragonballs to get my revenge.

Come to think of it, this would make an excellent mini arc in between major arcs.

[ChronoTwigger]

I'm still annoyed they're fine with Vegeta, never mind Beerus.

Yamcha got his lady taken away from him by the man who was indirectly responsible for his death and who even laughed when he died and said "get this trash off the battlefield". The same man who constantly mocked Yamcha for years to come, and there was nothing Yamcha could do about it. Yet he still talks to Bulma and tolerates Vegeta. Its absolutely incredible how the Earthlings tolerate the pint sized Saiyan.

If I was Yamcha I would disappear like Launch did. Or I would somehow get my hands on the Dragonballs to get my revenge.

Come to think of it, this would make an excellent mini arc in between major arcs.

If my memory serve me well, Bulma was already angry with Yamcha for his continual flirting with other girls. From my strict POV, Yamcha is a successfull guy, that have money and girls... having a relationship with Bulma is very far from an happy situation, too XD. It's more like "ok, Veggie, now you muist endure her. Good luck".

[Hellspawn28]

It's his job.

So what? Seems out of character for some of them to be okay with it. How's he any different from Frieza?

Because it's Beerus job to create destruction to maintain balance in the universe. Freeza is a evil tyrant that rules a major empire and has people do his work for him (The Saiyans, Zarbon, Dodoria and the Ginyu Force). It's like asking how is Galactus is any different from Loki (Galactus served to maintain the balance between the cosmos too).

[Lionel]

The thing that makes Beerus different from Vegeta or Piccolo is the fact no one can actually do anything to stop him. His counterparts' tenure as the threat waiting in the wings to lash out again was offset by Goku wielding the strength necessary to defeat them again should they ever act out. In this moment, no such luxuries have been afforded to them. I'm sure everyone must be secretly terrified of Beerus for what he's capable of. Literally their entire world is in the hands of a spontaneous brat who would just as soon exterminate your entire world if he doesn't get his pudding cup. They have to mask their insecurities, however, as any overt misgivings could alert Beerus to the fact that his presence is unwanted.

[TekTheNinja]

It's like asking how is Galactus is any different from Loki (Galactus served to maintain the balance between the cosmos too).

Except Galactus is usually seen as a villain.

[OLKv3]

Beerus has changed since meeting Goku. He's been called out on it by multiple characters. Champa, Whis, Vados, Elder Kai, and even Zeno have all been saying he's getting soft. Goku influenced him just like he did Vegeta.

These guys were friendly with Vegeta when he was still EVIL

[Faisal Shourov]

Beerus is nothing like Frieza. Frieza kills people for selfish reason. Beerus was APPOINTED god of destruction by the Almighty Zeno. Beerus performs his duty. Frieza didn't kill people for duty, Frieza wanted to be a galactic emperor. Beerus does what Omni King wants him to do. Goku or nobody is worthy to questions Beerus' action, who's appointed by God himself

It's like OP doesn't even understand the concept of hakaishin. And yes Beerus has changed and now friendly with Goku. That's not a big issue. Beerus destroys whatever he thinks needs to be destroyed to maintain balance.

[phattangent]

And yes Beerus has changed and now friendly with Goku. That's not a big issue. Beerus destroys whatever he thinks needs to be destroyed to maintain balance.

I wonder if making Beerus more friendly will be used as a plot device at some point to fuel a new onslaught of unbalanced evil in 第７宇宙 / Universe 7?

[Faisal Shourov]

And yes Beerus has changed and now friendly with Goku. That's not a big issue. Beerus destroys whatever he thinks needs to be destroyed to maintain balance.

I wonder if making Beerus more friendly will be used as a plot device at some point to fuel a new onslaught of unbalanced evil in 第７宇宙 / Universe 7?

Maybe. Beerus' befriending Goku and co is an important theme of Super. And it's not like Beerus interferes with their work everyday. He didn't even help Goku and Vegeta in this arc to beat Zamasu

Beerus only does what he thinks is reasonable per job.

[phattangent]

Beerus only does what he thinks is reasonable per job.

明確な任務！ Yeah, he does seem to have a pretty clear mission.

[TekTheNinja]

Beerus is nothing like Frieza. Frieza kills people for selfish reason. Beerus was APPOINTED god of destruction by the Almighty Zeno. Beerus performs his duty. Frieza didn't kill people for duty, Frieza wanted to be a galactic emperor. Beerus does what Omni King wants him to do. Goku or nobody is worthy to questions Beerus' action, who's appointed by God himself

It's like OP doesn't even understand the concept of hakaishin. And yes Beerus has changed and now friendly with Goku. That's not a big issue. Beerus destroys whatever he thinks needs to be destroyed to maintain balance.

I don't see how "maintaining balance" is the same thing as "committing genocide on planets just for making food that's too greasy."

Just because it's his job or whatever doesn't mean the others should be cool with it. It's like, "Excuse me sir, why are you killing puppies? Oh? It's your job to kill puppies to maintain the balance between dogs and cats? Then carry on."

[OLKv3]

That scene always make me laugh since they treat Vegeta's mass-murdering past like he had a drug addition and he's now clean. Every time they think Vegeta maybe evil again, it's treated like, 'he fell off the wagon'.

Most of this is culture clash. I remember reading that in Japan they are extremely forgiving of one's crimes if you repent or feel real shame. Which is why so many villains tend to reform in anime/manga.

Oh wow, I never made the comparison but that's crazy accurate It really IS like a drug addiction for them. Then again, does Vegeta ever really say or imply he's sorry for all that he's done? I know he apologizes for Gohan "dying" when Fat Boo attacks him but I don't recall anything else.

When Goku mentioned Vegeta wanting to destroy Earth back during the Champa Saga, Vegeta got irritated for Goku bringing up the past. That is the closest I can remember to Vegeta being sorry about that part of his life. Similar to Piccolo being upset when Krillin mentioned how he was once the Demon King back in the Buu Saga.

Him describing why he's reviving everyone on Earth except for the evil ones showed that he regretted murdering innocents.

[Faisal Shourov]

I don't see how "maintaining balance" is the same thing as "committing genocide on planets just for making food that's too greasy."

Just because it's his job or whatever doesn't mean the others should be cool with it. It's like, "Excuse me sir, why are you killing puppies? Oh? It's your job to kill puppies to maintain the balance between dogs and cats? Then carry on."

The maintaining balance is important part because it shows Goku or nobody in the universe has the right to question Beerus action. Beerus was appointed by Omni King. Beerus has been give authority and autonomy to make his own judgement and take action. Beerus committing genocide is as normal as Goku plucking radish. Simply put, Beerus needs no reason to bust planet, Omni King has enough faith to put Beerus in the position. Comparing Beerus to greedy dictator like Frieza or maniac like Buu is not reasonable. Goku is in no position to agree or disagree with Beerus.

[MaxZ]

Beerus actually likes the Z-fighters now. he won't admit it, but they're basically his friends.

he clearly felt bad about the situation in Future Trunks's timeline when he enlisted the aid of Gowasu to intervene.

[TekTheNinja]

I don't see how "maintaining balance" is the same thing as "committing genocide on planets just for making food that's too greasy."

Just because it's his job or whatever doesn't mean the others should be cool with it. It's like, "Excuse me sir, why are you killing puppies? Oh? It's your job to kill puppies to maintain the balance between dogs and cats? Then carry on."

The maintaining balance is important part because it shows Goku or nobody in the universe has the right to question Beerus action. Beerus was appointed by Omni King. Beerus has been give authority and autonomy to make his own judgement and take action. Beerus committing genocide is as normal as Goku plucking radish. Simply put, Beerus needs no reason to bust planet, Omni King has enough faith to put Beerus in the position. Comparing Beerus to greedy dictator like Frieza or maniac like Buu is not reasonable. Goku is in no position to agree or disagree with Beerus.

Might be a philosophy difference here, but I find that ridiculous. Beerus is just a spoiled brat who destroys planets for the heck of it. Doesn't matter that he's technically allowed to.

[KingKaash]

I hate how Bulma tells off Beerus with no fear at all of the consequences. It takes away from Beerus in my opinion. But I guess fear is not something they are going with when it comes to Beerus even though he is a God of Destruction. They want him to be able to have that quiet kind of superpower

Beerus needs to slap Bulma again so Vegeta can unlock Trunk's new form

[Polyphase Avatron]

The 'he's just doing his job' argument doesn't really hold up, because he could only destroy uninhabited planets and still fulfill his role.