Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

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Re: Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:16 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
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TheUltimateNinja wrote: Just because you have an idea of how strong someone is doesn't mean you can replicate that. It'd be pretty ridiculous if Bulma was able to create a Godly mech.
Yet Android 16, 17, 18 and 19 happened.
They are nowhere close to the level of Gods.
At the time Androids 16, 17, 18 and 19 were created, they were far stronger than any other character introduced prior to them, which says a lot considering how much battle powers spiked on Namek. If it could happen, there's no reason it can't happen now.

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Re: Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:20 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
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Lord Beerus wrote: Yet Android 16, 17, 18 and 19 happened.
They are nowhere close to the level of Gods.
At the time Androids 16, 17, 18 and 19 were created, they were far stronger than any other character introduced prior to them, which says a lot considering how much battle powers spiked on Namek. If it could happen, there's no reason it can't happen now.
There's several orders of magnitudes of difference here, though. And Bulma hasn't even demonstrated the ability to do such a thing and even Gero's designs were stated to be above her level.

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Re: Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:39 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
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TheUltimateNinja wrote: They are nowhere close to the level of Gods.
At the time Androids 16, 17, 18 and 19 were created, they were far stronger than any other character introduced prior to them, which says a lot considering how much battle powers spiked on Namek. If it could happen, there's no reason it can't happen now.
There's several orders of magnitudes of difference here, though. And Bulma hasn't even demonstrated the ability to do such a thing and even Gero's designs were stated to be above her level.
Yet in another timeline she was able to build a time machine. She's far smarter she thinks she is, in reality.

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Re: Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

Post by Angelus » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:27 am

Capsule Corp manufactures flying aircrafts and cars, etc. so making a spaceship by using an alien spaceship's parts is quite plausible. Creating mechas on the other hand, it doesn't seem to be Capsule Corp's specialty. In filler we some some servant robots but they're nowhere near from looking human-like. Even with the blueprints, and being mechanical geniuses beforehand, it took both the combined effort of Bulma and her Dad to fix only a small portion of #16, in 9 or 10 days? Gero is just that much more of a genius. He would have needed far more knowledge than a surgeon or a biologist, aside from robotics and mechanical engineering, to make an actual human into an android. Mind you, this android can still reproduce. Infinite energy supply for the said android? Looks like Gero is also an expert on Physics, by the least.

Okay, so what about if Bulma and her Dad created a fully mechanical android like 16 instead? They definitely could build the body, but not be able to create a "battery" or "energy supply" for it to use Ki attacks. It just doesn't seem to be the Brief family's specialty (it's like asking a Pediatrician to perform brain surgery; it's just not the same specialty field) and aside from that, Gero's genius far surpasses their's.

If the Z fighters needed someone to create androids, they'd be better off contacting Senbei Norimaki. That seems to be his specialty. No, not just fully mechanical like 16. Senbei Norimaki is capable of creating cyborgs too. He turned a fully organic ordinary bear into a cyborg bear with super strength. Better yet, Senbei's son, Turbo Norimaki, who's able to create better inventions than his father. Heck, or both. Senbei and Turbo being hired by Capsule Corp, and have Pilaf as their apprentice. Pilaf seems to specialize in making mecha suits (non-sentient ones that you'll have to operate, similar to a Gundam)

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This will be your team to create a new android:

Senbei and Turbo Norimaki
Bulma and Dr. Briefs
Dr. Flappe (if you want to include filler)
and Pilaf
[There's also Dr. Mashirito, but he's a bad guy]

There's enough material around to study: Gero's blueprints, Android 19's head (in the middle of nowhere wasteland), Android 20's severed forearm (has that energy absorption thingy on the palm; can also be found in that wasteland), Major Metallitron's remains (whatever's left under the rubble of Muscle Tower; the body itself should be durable enough to be intact and buried under all that concrete), Pilaf's assortment of mecha suits, leftovers of #16's destroyed body and head, and the intact microchip at the Cell Games location

Living specimens: the cyborg bear, Arale, Android 8, #17 and #18 (although I doubt they'll cooperate)

Even with such a combined effort though, I doubt they can even create anything that can surpass Android 19's level. Well, unless you take Arale's feats seriously, with her toon force, then you already have someone more powerful than 19. If we stay on topic and just have Bulma solely build a mecha, then maybe if she can take salvage whatever's left of Major Metallitron and Android 19's head and 20's absorption-palm forearm, together with Gero's blueprints... she might be able to create a new and improved Major Metallitron that is much smarter an can absorb Ki with one arm. King Piccolo would totally stomp it though lol

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Re: Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

Post by DragonBallFoodie » Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:43 am

Probably one based on Vegeta and Trunks's power levels. ''Then leave it to the mech itself to transcend power levels as much as it can.

That's what happened with Dr Norimaki and Arale.
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Re: Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:22 am

Lord Beerus wrote:
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Lord Beerus wrote: At the time Androids 16, 17, 18 and 19 were created, they were far stronger than any other character introduced prior to them, which says a lot considering how much battle powers spiked on Namek. If it could happen, there's no reason it can't happen now.
There's several orders of magnitudes of difference here, though. And Bulma hasn't even demonstrated the ability to do such a thing and even Gero's designs were stated to be above her level.
Yet in another timeline she was able to build a time machine. She's far smarter she thinks she is, in reality.
Building a time machine doesn't have much to do with building mechs since they're completely different fields of science. And since she had several years to build stuff while the androids were attacking she should have just built even stronger androids to defeat them.

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Re: Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

Post by Angelus » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:43 am

It took her 13 years to build a time machine. She may have needed to study through all those years to even do it. 13 years. This is the same Bulma that can make a dragon radar from household items and can translate to English an alien power level scouter, in no time flat. Present Bulma said the notes were so advanced even for her, but eventually understood it. It may be because she has an actual broken time machine and the notes on how to fix it. Future Bulma had to make the time machine from scratch. It was implied that supplies and equipment were scarce in the future since it took 1 day to fill up a tank of time machine fuel in the present but it took a year to fill up a little over half a tank in the future.

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Re: Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

Post by Doctor. » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:01 pm

Probably a Mr. Boo-tier mech.

If she tried to make a Cell-like creation, she'd make one stronger than Whis.

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Re: Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

Post by Yalos » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:19 pm

At least current Vegeta.

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Re: Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:33 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Have her build an absorption model and have it steal Vegeta's energy and presto, she has a God tier mech in no time.
There's still whole thing about how God ki doesn't leak so I don't think it can be absorbed.

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Re: Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:39 pm

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ekrolo2 wrote:Have her build an absorption model and have it steal Vegeta's energy and presto, she has a God tier mech in no time.
There's still whole thing about how God ki doesn't leak so I don't think it can be absorbed.
Yeah, that thing Super brings up then forgets about when it has everyone flare their aura's around like normal :P
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Re: Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

Post by Doctor. » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:51 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:Have her build an absorption model and have it steal Vegeta's energy and presto, she has a God tier mech in no time.
There's still whole thing about how God ki doesn't leak so I don't think it can be absorbed.
Tell that to Copy Vegeta.

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Re: Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

Post by nickzambuto » Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:32 am

Bulma's scientific and technological genius are very under appreciated. As much of a prodigy as Goku, Tenshinhan and the others were when it came to martial arts, she was when it came to technology.

-Just casually repaired an intergalactic Time Patroller ship in minutes when she was five years old, while the prestigious scientist Omori was struggling just to comprehend the alien technology, let alone repair it, which he thought would be impossible.
-Developed the Dragon Radar as a teen, technology which is able to sense and interact with mystical energies. To give a scale for how difficult that is, keep in mind that when the most powerful and technologically advanced military in the world, the Red Ribbon Army, focused all of its resources towards hunting for the Dragon Balls, the best radar they could come up with was a giant room-sized supercomputer that merely narrowed the Dragon Balls' locations down to a few miles. Bulma, by herself, developed a portable radar that brought her to the balls' exact locations.
-Mastered shrinking technology in a few days.
-Created a miniature Son Goku-locator scout plane while stranded at Kame House with literally no resources, which was not only capable of flight, but could fly faster than Kinto'un.
-Understood the technology in an alien Scouter device instantly and easily repaired it, even somehow translating the foreign text into English Japanese whatever language it is that they speak.
-Studied ancient Namekian technology, and after mere days not only had she become proficient enough to fully repair the ship, but she also apparently learned the Namekian language.
-Created a time machine in a post-apocalyptic world where most people were scrounging for the resources just to survive.
-Developed a laser field that could even fry a saiyan to guard the Dragon Balls.

And I'm not even caught up with Super. The fact that Bulma hasn't invented anything to aid in battles is the definition of PIS. She could absolutely figure out a way to handle the lower tier antagonists like Demon King Piccolo, probably at least up to the saiyans. If she were to create a god-tier mecha or android or cyborg in Super, I wouldn't be opposed at all.

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Re: Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

Post by dragon boss z » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:28 pm

Realistically nothing stronger than Cell unless Toriyama wants to pull something out of his butt.

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Re: Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

Post by VegettoEX » Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:39 pm

Well, if you want to go by Dragon Ball Fusions...

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Pretty gosh-darn strong mechs if they're good enough for Vegeta to train with![/spoiler]
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Re: Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

Post by Lord Frieza » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:25 pm

Well in a way Bulma and Gero are actually a good comparison. Both are experts in their respective fields and made unimaginable breakthroughs in their lifetime.

Gero specialized in robotics, cybernetics and organic/technoganic and he built weapons more powerful then a galactic tyrant.

Bulma has a very wide area of expertise but what she and her family build mainly focus around gadgets and vehicles and she went on to build a time machine.

So both were able to do the impossible with their fields.

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Re: Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

Post by Angelus » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:25 am

Let's see what happens in this week's episode. Maybe Norimaki's creation Arale might just be a god-tier robot
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Re: Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:38 am

Slightly stronger than Officer Black's Battle Jacket.
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Re: Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

Post by nickzambuto » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:24 pm

So far I think we've narrowed down the answer to somewhere between less than Roshi and equal to Beerus.

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Re: Strongest Mecha Bulma could build?

Post by kinisking » Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:25 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:Have her build an absorption model and have it steal Vegeta's energy and presto, she has a God tier mech in no time.
There's still whole thing about how God ki doesn't leak so I don't think it can be absorbed.
Yeah, that thing Super brings up then forgets about when it has everyone flare their aura's around like normal :P
Maybe the ki stays in those auras unlike Super saiyan where it leaks out of the aura also?
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