Do you think the Dragon Ball fanbase is bad?

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Re: Do you think the Dragon Ball fanbase is bad?

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:00 am

Every fanbase has their rotten eggs, and Dragon Ball is no exception. Always debating over power levels, which dub is better (Funi, Ocean or Kai), Funi vs Japanese...the list goes on. I think we all should try to get along and realize that despite our certain opinions on something related to Dragon Ball, we're all fans of the franchise. The Dragon Ball fanbase isn't as bad as Sonic's, MLP's and many others (Marvel, DC, anime, SU), though.
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Re: Do you think the Dragon Ball fanbase is bad?

Post by VegettoEX » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:07 am

I'm very encouraged to see people acknowledging the faults when they exist, but ultimately keeping a level head. We all enjoy what we enjoy, know precisely what it is we enjoy, usually WHY it is we enjoy it, and have the experience and surrounding community to put that all in context.

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Re: Do you think the Dragon Ball fanbase is bad?

Post by Forte224 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:33 pm

It really just depends on where you look. Kanzenshuu here might be the best community anywhere on the internet, it's certainly the best I've ever seen. It's full of reasonable, respectful and knowledgeable people that don't disrespect people for their dub, version, and arc preferences. But go to GameFAQs or YouTube? Oh man. YouTube is all about the Funi dub, and disrespect anything else, including Nozawa, Kikuchi, Kai, etc. Fights ensue regularly. GameFAQs treats every single arc as if it's the same quality level of the Garlic Jr. arc. Both GameFAQs and YouTube like to come up with these out of left field speculations that they treat like 100% fact, like the people that said Goku Black was future Goten, or that Monaka was Broly in disguise. It's like, they're so obviously wrong that it's cringey, but they're totally serious and think they're right

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Re: Do you think the Dragon Ball fanbase is bad?

Post by precita » Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:03 pm

Yeah, some of the worst members of the fandom are on other sites like youtube, reddit, twitter, gamefaqs, various anime or videogame forums, etc.

The people here are for the most part level headed. I don't think you guys know what truly bad fans are until you've gone to some other sites that discuss Dragonball and see what they say.

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Post by VegettoEX » Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:12 pm

Let's not disparage other communities by name, please. You're doing the exact opposite of what you're setting out to do: making yourself look bad, and by extension making this community look bad, by shit-talking someone else.
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Re: Do you think the Dragon Ball fanbase is bad?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:40 pm

I think that the Dragon Ball fanbase, as a whole, tends to skew towards the younger side. And when you have a fanbase composed largely of young people, you are more likely to have a larger amount of poorly-articulated thoughts and emotional outbursts. And that's just a generalization. There are plenty of young people who are very articulate and mature, and there are plenty of older people who have bad tempers, and there are people all over the place who just have a bad day and lose their temper sometimes. So please don't think I'm saying that kids suck and get off my lawn (although if I had a lawn, I'd appreciate it you'd give me some privacy).

Combined with that is the inevitable divide, at least in English-speaking countries, created by the original and the dub being such different entities. Mixing those two things together creates something very volatile.

But all that said, all fandoms are going to have in-fighting by their very nature. You don't enter a fandom of something if you are only mildly interested in it. You do it if you're passionate about it. And if you're passionate, you have strong opinions. And if you have strong opinions, you defend them strongly. And having different opinions is great too, but it can lead to arguments.

But as others have said, I find myself very fortunate to be part of this community because it has really set the standard for civil, intellectual DB debate. And I consider myself just as lucky that, so far, my YouTube comments section has been comprised of similarly-dispositioned people. My online DB experience has been very wonderful in an overall sense. Wish I was so lucky in real life. =P
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Re: Do you think the Dragon Ball fanbase is bad?

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:44 pm

There are some portions of the Dragon Ball fandom that can act in an inappropriate manner in some certain scenarios. Most particularly when it come topics concerning power levels and what should be considered "canon". But no community is perfect as every person has a different opinion, and this forum for the large majority, just like several other forums on the internet, consist of users that usually contribute properly in general or in-universe discussions. As few bad apples don't spoil the bunch.

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Re: Do you think the Dragon Ball fanbase is bad?

Post by Abra kadabra » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:19 pm

A lot fanbases are bad. This fanbase is one of them

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:32 am

Sometimes.
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Re: Do you think the Dragon Ball fanbase is bad?

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:40 am

I wish I could give an unbiased opinion, but I can't, so I won't. Let's just say that I don't like people as a whole, and that extends into my fandoms. That being said, due to some life-changing things that have happened to me both today and yesterday, I'm trying to change my sour attitude, and I do love talking about a franchise that means so much to me. The best answer I can give is that I'm undecided.
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Post by keyz05 » Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:39 am

Forte224 wrote:It really just depends on where you look. Kanzenshuu here might be the best community anywhere on the internet, it's certainly the best I've ever seen. It's full of reasonable, respectful and knowledgeable people that don't disrespect people for their dub, version, and arc preferences. But go to GameFAQs or YouTube? Oh man. YouTube is all about the Funi dub, and disrespect anything else, including Nozawa, Kikuchi, Kai, etc. Fights ensue regularly. GameFAQs treats every single arc as if it's the same quality level of the Garlic Jr. arc. Both GameFAQs and YouTube like to come up with these out of left field speculations that they treat like 100% fact, like the people that said Goku Black was future Goten, or that Monaka was Broly in disguise. It's like, they're so obviously wrong that it's cringey, but they're totally serious and think they're right
Yeah... Every DragonBall fan depends on the person.

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Re: Do you think the Dragon Ball fanbase is bad?

Post by laserkid » Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:51 am

Definitely not, though like all fan bases we can be imperfect, I think more than any other Fandom we come together pretty well. I've been on hiatus for quite some time so my viewpoint may well be off a bit, but for every bad apple in the community, there's ten awesome people.

It's part of why I always end up back here every once in a while. There's so many knowledgeable, friendly, and kind people to interact with.
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Post by VegettoEX » Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:04 am

Abra kadabra wrote:A lot fanbases are bad. This fanbase is one of them
Then why are you a part of it? If something is bad, and you can't find any enjoyment in it, why would you subject yourself to that torment? There's more to life than wallowing in bullshit. I wouldn't waste my time with something "bad" and I would extend that same advice to you. There's got to be something else out there for you.

(Fortunately, a lot of other people seem to disagree with you, and I would guess they all get something out of being a part of the fandom. That's great! Quite frankly, I think you're just making things more troublesome for yourself with your half-sentence responses across the forum. If you're not willing to truly engage with anyone, what do you expect in return?)
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Re: Do you think the Dragon Ball fanbase is bad?

Post by Abra kadabra » Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:08 am

VegettoEX wrote:
Abra kadabra wrote:A lot fanbases are bad. This fanbase is one of them
Then why are you a part of it? If something is bad, and you can't find any enjoyment in it, why would you subject yourself to that torment? There's more to life than wallowing in bullshit. I wouldn't waste my time with something "bad" and I would extend that same advice to you. There's got to be something else out there for you.

(Fortunately, a lot of other people seem to disagree with you, and I would guess they all get something out of being a part of the fandom. That's great! Quite frankly, I think you're just making things more troublesome for yourself with your half-sentence responses across the forum. If you're not willing to truly engage with anyone, what do you expect in return?)
I enjoy discussing the show but the fanbase is bad and entitled. Same with sports, fashion, music and most other fanbases, I'm not perfect either I say plenty petty stuff. It is what it is and you're gonna see plenty of comments you don't agree with.

And I've posted more than half sentences across this forum. Maybe the reason I was picked out specifically by you is because I don't like vegito and have no problem showing it lol.

Fanbases aren't all bad though

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:24 am

Certain parts of it, yeah. But I don't socialize with then so it doesn't bother me too much

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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:26 pm

The only part of the fanbase that can reach god awaful status every now and then is the power and strenght maniacs.
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Post by laserkid » Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:54 pm

Abra kadabra wrote: I enjoy discussing the show but the fanbase is bad and entitled. Same with sports, fashion, music and most other fanbases, I'm not perfect either I say plenty petty stuff. It is what it is and you're gonna see plenty of comments you don't agree with.

And I've posted more than half sentences across this forum. Maybe the reason I was picked out specifically by you is because I don't like vegito and have no problem showing it lol.

Fanbases aren't all bad though
I've known Mike for far too long to think he's disagreeing with you based on your opinion on Vegetto, I think it has a lot more to do with the fact you're being so negative with no real reason for it.

You say the fanbase is bad and entitled, but you didn't exactly say what makes you think the entire fanbase is that way. Are there people like that in the fanbase? Certainly, but that doesn't permeate the entire Dragon Ball community, and I for one sincerely disagree with you.

You state that you enjoy discussing the show, and hey so do I, so we have that in common! But why would you want to discuss it with people you're so sure are all bad people that make you miserable? I think you're over focusing on the negative, because you clearly DO enjoy the discussions or you wouldn't be here. Try to look on the bright side of things more and you'll have a better time, as will all those around you.

I do know how hard this is, I battle with clinical depression myself and it can be very difficult to see positives sometimes. But trust me, it's totally worth it to try! There's some really awesome and good people in this community, ESPECIALLY at Kanzenshuu!
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:20 pm

laserkid wrote:I do know how hard this is, I battle with clinical depression myself and it can be very difficult to see positives sometimes. But trust me, it's totally worth it to try! There's some really awesome and good people in this community, ESPECIALLY at Kanzenshuu!
I just want to say that I'm glad you're back, laserkid. You remind me of the warm fuzzies I felt when I first joined Kanzenshuu, and your post was even warmer and fuzzier. And it's reasons like that that I always stick around here.
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Re: Do you think the Dragon Ball fanbase is bad?

Post by Esfír Dedragón » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:51 pm

Wasn't there a similar post talking about this exact same issue?

Yeah, the fanbase can be insufferably cruel and/or stupid at times. More so on the latter part.

But I would like to think that while our love for Dragon Ball hasn't changed, our approach to how we behave in real life and online does in more mature manner.
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Re: Do you think the Dragon Ball fanbase is bad?

Post by laserkid » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:05 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:
laserkid wrote:I do know how hard this is, I battle with clinical depression myself and it can be very difficult to see positives sometimes. But trust me, it's totally worth it to try! There's some really awesome and good people in this community, ESPECIALLY at Kanzenshuu!
I just want to say that I'm glad you're back, laserkid. You remind me of the warm fuzzies I felt when I first joined Kanzenshuu, and your post was even warmer and fuzzier. And it's reasons like that that I always stick around here.
Thanks, it's good to be back, and I'm glad I haven't totally been forgotten - it was something I worried about coming back here as I started watching Super, but this is THE place I like to talk Dragon Ball at, so I came anyway! :)
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