Beerus is gonna really hate Goku's guts in the near future

[sintzu]

I'd love if Super ends up with a big, final showdown between Son Goku and Beerus.

I honestly can't see it ending any other way.

Beerus is currently the biggest threat to Universe 7 so I think Goku will defeat him and maybe get rid of the destroyer title to prevent someone like that from coming into that much power.

[RehBeh]

Something that bugged me during F. Trunks arc, is that Zamasu destroys the Earth and then Omni-King obliterares it. However that's instantly thrown in the carbage can when Whia takes him to his Universe before Zamasu attacks. They should have made him move to Cell's timeline, where a Bulma without her son leaves. But no, everything's fine Whis will take us back (with two of ourselves hanging around casually)

Well the problem with that is that they have no way of getting their accurately, Trunks time machine has been set to this passed and the new one might have been re-set so it cannot go to its original timeline.

Well they could re-re-set to the original timeline?
It was a stupid decision to do this, it made Zamasu conflict meaningless and gave a "Happy End" so stupid I almost throw up.

[Lord Frieza]

Something that bugged me during F. Trunks arc, is that Zamasu destroys the Earth and then Omni-King obliterares it. However that's instantly thrown in the carbage can when Whia takes him to his Universe before Zamasu attacks. They should have made him move to Cell's timeline, where a Bulma without her son leaves. But no, everything's fine Whis will take us back (with two of ourselves hanging around casually)

Well the problem with that is that they have no way of getting their accurately, Trunks time machine has been set to this passed and the new one might have been re-set so it cannot go to its original timeline.

Well they could re-re-set to the original timeline?
It was a stupid decision to do this, it made Zamasu conflict meaningless and gave a "Happy End" so stupid I almost throw up.

True they should have just stayed or gone to that time line....but whats done is done and we all know that really that "happy Ending" must be very hollow for Trunks and Mai.

[TheMathemagician]

I'd love if Super ends up with a big, final showdown between Son Goku and Beerus.

I honestly can't see it ending any other way.

Beerus is currently the biggest threat to Universe 7 so I think Goku will defeat him and maybe get rid of the destroyer title to prevent someone like that from coming into that much power.

It would make Super come full circle. It starts with Goku and Beerus' fight on Kaio Sama's planet which eventually leads to their second fight. Super ends with Goku and Beerus having their long awaited rematch.

[Nejishiki]

Seeing how Super Dragon Balls were not used to restore Future Trunks timeline, I doubt it will be used in this arc.

Didn't they use the Super Dragon Balls after the end of the Champa arc, which not too long before the Future Trunks arc began? I mean, I'm assuming that like the other sets of Dragon Ball, the Super Dragon Balls have a cooldown period before you can use them again.

Anyway, I think Beerus will be very mad at Goku for reminding Zeno about the tournament. Yeah, Goku had no idea it would lead to such a drastic stipulation, but he was specifically warned by Beerus and Whis about Zeno's unpredictable behaviour. But Goku is a blood knight. So if he sees a good chance for a good fight, he'll take it, irregardless of the repercussions. We've seen him act like this several times in the past.

Yes, Beerus used the Super Dragon Balls in the Champa arc. Later, when Zamasu wanted to collect Super Dragon Balls, Zuno informed him that one year hadn't passed yet. That's Goku Black's motivation for using the Time Ring to grant his wishes quicker. The Future Trunks arc placed within a year of the Champa arc.

Seeing how Super Dragon Balls were not used to restore Future Trunks timeline, I doubt it will be used in this arc.

That's because they've settled on a different solution, which while isn't entirely perfect, is acceptable. Not to mention that Beerus and Whis would never, ever help with a wish that would restore an additional timeline - don't forget that creating new timelines is a grave transgression.

This tournament, on the other hand, is a much better opportunity to use the Super DBs.

Actually, Whis created a new parallel world for Future Trunks & Future Mai. He executed the opposite of your speculation via alternate methods.

Well they could re-re-set to the original timeline?
It was a stupid decision to do this, it made Zamasu conflict meaningless and gave a "Happy End" so stupid I almost throw up.

The original Future Trunks & Cell are the only souls who know those coordinates. Our Future Trunks lacks experience with Cell's era. I'm not sure how Zamasu's destruction was meaningless. The arc ended on a bittersweet note yet significant consequence & growth occurred, which is welcomed.

[RehBeh]

Well they could re-re-set to the original timeline?
It was a stupid decision to do this, it made Zamasu conflict meaningless and gave a "Happy End" so stupid I almost throw up.

The original Future Trunks & Cell are the only souls who know those coordinates. Our Future Trunks lacks experience with Cell's era. I'm not sure how Zamasu's destruction was meaningless. The arc ended on a bittersweet note yet significant consequence & growth occurred, which is welcomed.

The part about the coordinates is easily fixed by saying Bulma saved them for future use/research.

The arc ended on a bittersweet note yet significant consequence & growth occurred, which is welcomed. Of course its welcome, but it could have been much better than what they gave us.
What's done is done however.

[Lord Beerus]

Seeing how Super Dragon Balls were not used to restore Future Trunks timeline, I doubt it will be used in this arc.

Didn't they use the Super Dragon Balls after the end of the Champa arc, which not too long before the Future Trunks arc began? I mean, I'm assuming that like the other sets of Dragon Ball, the Super Dragon Balls have a cooldown period before you can use them again.

Anyway, I think Beerus will be very mad at Goku for reminding Zeno about the tournament. Yeah, Goku had no idea it would lead to such a drastic stipulation, but he was specifically warned by Beerus and Whis about Zeno's unpredictable behaviour. But Goku is a blood knight. So if he sees a good chance for a good fight, he'll take it, irregardless of the repercussions. We've seen him act like this several times in the past.

Yes, Beerus used the Super Dragon Balls in the Champa arc. Later, when Zamasu wanted to collect Super Dragon Balls, Zuno informed him that one year hadn't passed yet. That's Goku Black's motivation for using the Time Ring to grant his wishes quicker. The Future Trunks arc placed within a year of the Champa arc.

I knew it. Thanks for the conformation. So even they wanted to used the Super Dragon Balls to restore Future Trunks world at the end of the Future Trunks arc, they wouldn't have been able to. Plus, I also doubt that the Super Dragon Balls would have been able to grant wished for other timelines.

[dbgtFO]

Basically Zamasu was right all along, but Beerus only realized it, when it was too late

[Lord Frieza]

I've been thinking on this and if nothing else, if it turns out the gods die as well, it will be the end of Goku's good relationship with Beerus. Beerus can tolerate putting the universe in danger, he has done so himself, but I think Champa's death will break Beerus's heart. Think about, they have been together for countless eons, everyone they have ever know or cared for is long dead and the only thing that ties them to who they once were is each other. While they fight and threaten to destroy each other, they know deep down Whis and Vados will stop them. Even after all this time the brotherly love between them still exists.

Maybe thats why they are nicer and less destructive then the others. The other Gods of Destruction threw away all their humanity when they took on the role, had it erode away over their long lives or were just monsters from the get go. But for Beerus and Champa a little of it has always lived on in them because they have each other.

The lose of Champa would likely cut Beerus very deeply. Leaving him a much colder, more heartless being and it will be all Goku's fault. Goku's thoughtlessness lead to death of Beerus's humanity along with his brother.

[Beerus-sama]

I've been thinking on this and if nothing else, if it turns out the gods die as well, it will be the end of Goku's good relationship with Beerus. Beerus can tolerate putting the universe in danger, he has done so himself, but I think Champa's death will break Beerus's heart. Think about, they have been together for countless eons, everyone they have ever know or cared for is long dead and the only thing that ties them to who they once were is each other. While they fight and threaten to destroy each other, they know deep down Whis and Vados will stop them. Even after all this time the brotherly love between them still exists.

Maybe thats why they are nicer and less destructive then the others. The other Gods of Destruction threw away all their humanity when they took on the role, had it erode away over their long lives or were just monsters from the get go. But for Beerus and Champa a little of it has always lived on in them because they have each other.

The lose of Champa would likely cut Beerus very deeply. Leaving him a much colder, more heartless being and it will be all Goku's fault. Goku's thoughtlessness lead to death of Beerus's humanity along with his brother.

*Drops a tear*
Hopefully this arc won't go as far as killing everyone who loses including their gods. And if it goes, even with just destroying the universes, things can turn back to normal. Except for maybe the relationship between Goku and Beerus after all this mess.

[Nano]

Not seeing why Champa would die. The tournament isn't going to held in any of the Universes and all of the gods and the fighters will be in the same place. Assuming that the Super Dragon Balls get destroyed and the Universes can't come back, everyone present during the tournament can just move to Universe 7 afterward. That doesn't account for the countless lives being lost due to all of the other Universes being destroyed though.

Goku, the Best hero ever

Goku is not a hero and was never depicted as one. He's just some asshole who likes to fight.

[Ki Breaker]

Goku is not a hero and was never depicted as one. He's just some asshole who likes to fight.

He wasn't depicted like that either..
He's anything but an asshole

[Nano]

Goku is not a hero and was never depicted as one. He's just some asshole who likes to fight.

He wasn't depicted like that either..
He's anything but an asshole

Yes he was/is. Even Toriyama said that Goku is not a hero, just some guy who likes to fight.

When you let someone live after they've killed your family and or friends, you're an asshole.

When you let someone go after they've killed your family and or friends just for the sake of fighting them again, you're an asshole.

When you blatantly disobey you're teachers instruction for the sake of fighting, you're an asshole.

I could go on...

[Ki Breaker]

Goku is not a hero and was never depicted as one. He's just some asshole who likes to fight.

Yea, you Shouldn't go on, not very logical to continue with wrong assumptions..

What toriyama said is he isn't a hero guy, he likes to fight and has moral's..
If you like to eat that dosen't make you an asshole, saying toriyama said this is ridiculous..

According to your logic what would a supposed "hero" have done? Isn't a hero supposed to be heroic and not kill the now defenselessvillan as well, or killing someone defenseless is more heroic fir you?
Granted Goku's reason for letting the go isn't to be heroic but that isn't being an asshole

[SansrivaaL]

Guys guys, its literally in my sig, AT's never said Goku's an asshole, just a simple guy that wants to fight someone strong.
About letting bad guys go, its just Goku's cocky attitude kicking in, he is confident that the next time they do somethin bad, he'll definitely be a lot stronger than them and stop them, which turned out to be true in all their cases. Goku is that pure and naive about life (tho a big part of it is still because he wants to fight them again, but still)