Caulifa is a threat to Goku.

[SirTorra]

The lack of advertising for cauli as well as merchandise tells me she ain't gonna play that big of a role. The role of strong female will likely fall to Kale and I'm okay with that since Kale>cauli.

[Misirius]

I'm not sure I'm the only one here, but I don't really think she is Super Saiyan 2 in the NEP...

[Saturnine]

I wouldn't worry too much about her reaching SSj Blue. God realm is supposed to be way beyond anything that came before it. Though to be fair they did indeed trivialize SSj Blue a bit. Still, in every instance where Goku fights seriously against someone, his SSj Blue form shows to be top tier in power, inferior only to the Gods of Destruction. I don't see Caulifla getting there just like that, even with her growth potential. Also notice that she only increased the level of her transformation, not her base power.

She probably is around base Goku though, so you really can't tell.

[Kanassa]

They weren't kidding when they called her a genius, god damn. This is a record:

She followed instructions from someone else: WHAT A FUCKING GENIUS!

[julianix]

God I hope Freeza gets to whoop on the universe 6 saiyans.. him versus all 3 of them would be the best case scenario.

Then frost can save kaba and the lssj chick can take on someone else like piccolo.

[BlueBasilisk]

Why is she a threat to Goku specifically? Goku is kind of a joke considering literally every other relevant Saiyan, barring maybe Vegeta, achieves transformations faster and easier than he does.

Mortherfucking this.

There are some many other Saiyans in the series that are really ahead of the curve compared to him in terms of achieving SSJ forms, that I'm surprised there are people that are so up in arms about Caulifla becoming a SSJ and a SSJ2(?) as easily as she did.

Goku and Vegeta are held back by their stubborn pride, and they end up holding everyone else back in turn. Just look at how much time was wasted in the Android/Cell sagas because they were so determined to do their own thing. It took what, almost four years before Goku ever bothered to teach Gohan how to transform?

[MasterVampire]

maybe its not ssj2

unlesss sparks

[Gog]

They weren't kidding when they called her a genius, god damn. This is a record:

I don't see how achieving Super Saiyan 1 and 2 in record time is a threat to Goku. By that logic Goten and Trunks are the two greatest threats to Goku considering they both unlocked the forms when they were around 11 years of age.

[TBMx]

They weren't kidding when they called her a genius, god damn. This is a record:

I don't see how achieving Super Saiyan 1 and 2 in record time is a threat to Goku. By that logic Goten and Trunks are the two greatest threats to Goku considering they both unlocked the forms when they were around 11 years of age.

They never unlocked level 2. The only way they got to 3 was through fusion.

But that fusion is nothing close to Cabba's base, which was even with Vegeta's base, who made ssj3 Gotenks look like trash.

[Gog]

They weren't kidding when they called her a genius, god damn. This is a record:

I don't see how achieving Super Saiyan 1 and 2 in record time is a threat to Goku. By that logic Goten and Trunks are the two greatest threats to Goku considering they both unlocked the forms when they were around 11 years of age.

They never unlocked level 2. The only way they got to 3 was through fusion.

But that fusion is nothing close to Cabba's base, which was even with Vegeta's base, who made ssj3 Gotenks look like trash.

They never actually trained to get to Super Saiyan 2. Goten and Trunks are both lazy children.

Actually, besides one instance in the Copy Vegeta Arc it seems like Goku and Vegeta's base forms have been officially retconned back to their Buu Saga versions. Or heck, they could have just not used their God Base.

[TheMikado]

Look, the absurdity of the rate of characters surpassing limits is beyond reason at this point. I'm really disappointed at this. It cheapens everything the other Saiyans have experienced, and I know everyone loves to bring up the Goten and Trunks examples but I've said time and time again every character's reaction to their power and the ability to go SSJ is treated as a gag and never played straight. Further, even they had to go to the RoSaT to train. Caulifra looks like she's getting all the way up to SSJ2 in the matter of a few hours. It's taken the absurbity far past the level that the manga itself acknowledged and self referenced as the butt of jokes. So now it doubles down, turns the dial up past 100 on the absurdity scale, and then tries to play the whole thing with a straight face. Fine whatever. So to answer the original topic, anyone can be a threat to anyone else if the writers decide to make it so. And with very little in universe logic to boot.

[gofishus]

maybe its not ssj2

unlesss sparks

Sparks arent always shown with SSJ2 and usually if it is, its only when its initially done it fades. In the NEP it looks like you can't even see an aura, let alone sparks which means she might be in SSJ2 but shes not exerting any power.

[Boo Machine]

I know everyone loves to bring up the Goten and Trunks examples but I've said time and time again every character's reaction to their power and the ability to go SSJ is treated as a gag and never played straight. Further, even they had to go to the RoSaT to train.

I don't really see why it being played for laughs matters all that much. It doesn't change the fact that a 7 and an 8 year still achieved the form with little effort and was taken seriously enough that they were chosen by Goku to save the world from Majin Buu. Majin buu was a really goofy villain that did funny things for laughs, but he was also terrifying and treated seriously.

[MasterVampire]

maybe its not ssj2

unlesss sparks

Sparks arent always shown with SSJ2 and usually if it is, its only when its initially done it fades. In the NEP it looks like you can't even see an aura, let alone sparks which means she might be in SSJ2 but shes not exerting any power.

I think DBS have been more consistent with the SSJ2 sparks in recent episodes though

[OLKv3]

I hope she doesn't get overshadowed by Kale.

[BlueBasilisk]

I think DBS have been more consistent with the SSJ2 sparks in recent episodes though

Goku's aura didn't have sparks for half of his fight with Gohan in 90. It has been consistent in that he does not have sparks without the aura though.

[SansrivaaL]

They weren't kidding when they called her a genius, god damn. This is a record:

I don't see how achieving Super Saiyan 1 and 2 in record time is a threat to Goku. By that logic Goten and Trunks are the two greatest threats to Goku considering they both unlocked the forms when they were around 11 years of age.

Not to mention they both unlocked it without knowing it even exists, whereas Cauli had tips and advice. The SSJ2 tho came outta nowhere (maybe she tried getting angry as well and visualized something horrible then poof SSJ2)

[TheMikado]

I know everyone loves to bring up the Goten and Trunks examples but I've said time and time again every character's reaction to their power and the ability to go SSJ is treated as a gag and never played straight. Further, even they had to go to the RoSaT to train.

I don't really see why it being played for laughs matters all that much. It doesn't change the fact that a 7 and an 8 year still achieved the form with little effort and was taken seriously enough that they were chosen by Goku to save the world from Majin Buu. Majin buu was a really goofy villain that did funny things for laughs, but he was also terrifying and treated seriously.

Imagine if they played Mr. Satans character straight in Super. It would show a complete and fundamentally misunderstanding of the original authors intentions and style. They fact that Super fails to recognize that when author HIMSELF in-universe recognizes the absurdity of the SSJ give away process shows it hold neither the spirit, nor the understanding of the journey presented in manga/anime. Things like this make me question whether the writers and producers of the show have actually seen or read the source material at all. It matters because the journey and the story matters.

[TBMx]

Actually, besides one instance in the Copy Vegeta Arc it seems like Goku and Vegeta's base forms have been officially retconned back to their Buu Saga versions. Or heck, they could have just not used their God Base

Goku was standing face to face with form 4 Frieza in ep 93, which if he was only as strong as the Buu Saga version, that means Frieza would have to be retconned too, or else he could kill Goku in a split second. Meaning form 1 Frieza from RoF saga would be only a fraction as strong as base Goku buu saga, meaning Piccolo and super saiyan Gohan would be able to beat him.

Vegeta doesn't have a god base as he reached saiyan beyond god level through training, not a side effect of being Super Saiyan God. Vegeta says he's even with Cabba in base, and the narrative doesn't establish otherwise.

Thing is the Universe 7 lineup is so heavily stacked with heavy hitters that they have to fast track these Saiyans to high tiers, because otherwise it's just Hit who's worth a damn and the idea that the two universes rival each other in power becomes ludicrous. In U7 We got Goku, Vegeta, Frieza, 17, Gohan - that's five characters that have been shown to match Goku Blue. The only one in U6 who's established to be able to do that so far is Hit. And even he better come up with some new techniques because Goku and Vegeta's SSB has been shown to have dimension breaking powers and his time skip is old. But even if he did, he isn't carrying the team himself. Even if Frost got to Golden Frost, they aren't carrying the team themselves. Not even close.

[Basako]

I think the U6 saiyans aren't in Goku’s level. I see them for Piccolo and the androids. Goku, Vegeta and Gohan have other problems like the Pride Troopers, Hit or Ribrianne.

But if Caulifla and Kale fused... Yeah, that would be something, but it's not happening.