Who was responsible for those fake leaks?

[TheSaiyanGod]

[spoiler]It pretty much went like this:

- 2ch user posts summaries in Japanese
- GojiitaAF throws it into Google Translate and pastes it on his Facebook page
- Smugpup posts a proper translation on 4chan, while Ken Xyro posts his on Twitter
- Yamcha's voice actor tweets about recording a lot of lines for the character
- Confirmation bias leads many people into believing these leaks are real, and so it spreads across YouTube
- NewType scans release showcasing totally different staff and titles, but an almost identical title for #97 was featured, leading to more confusion
- Animedia apparently leaks and there are no Dragon Ball summaries at all this month
- Toshio Yoshitaka confirms the summaries spreading are fake

And that's about it, I think.

It's all a bit odd. Had the staff between the 2ch post and the NewType scans matched, it would be easy to say this particular user got the magazine early, changed some titles, and made up the summaries. That's not the case, so unless they deliberately made up the staff too (also a perfectly fine possibility), I'm curious as to how they managed to nail the title for #97.

Either way, it appears to all be fake. We won't know until all the magazines are out for real, but that's the general gist of things.

Lesson to be learned: trust nothing until you see the source with your own eyes (and ideally from multiple sources)[/spoiler].

Toshio Yoshitaka on his Twitter said the leaks were fake. So is it really a confirmation? And if it was true, he would not say so loudly that they were lies,He would just disguise

https://mobile.twitter.com/toshio916/st ... 5417839616

[LightBing]

Could something be done about these rumours in this forum?

This is precisely why we don't cover this kind of "information" on our actual website (or even our official social media accounts), and the news that we do cover is stuff that we independently confirm through material that we actively purchase ourselves or can be validated through a trusted third-party.

Ya' know, like a proper news outlet would do.

That being said, if we actively discouraged, nevermind outright BANNED, speculative discussions? That wouldn't exactly go over well.

What WE need YOU all to do is: Set an example. Self-moderate. Make posts that are worth reading. Be a responsible internet citizen and Dragon Ball fan.

I wasn't thinking of such extremes like banning, I even consider that wrong. People have the right to discuss what they want. What I meant is trying to minimize the damages. Let people who want to talk about it speak among themselves, not shout to those who might not want to hear it.

When the first Freeza leak appeared I said something like: "hey guys maybe we shouldn't make a big deal out of this until it's confirmed"; to no avail. People can't moderate themselves when they are hungry for news.

What I imagined with my suggestion is people start going off-topic, we point them in the right direction. If they ignore it a moderator gives a warning and again directs them to the right thread. Something like this happens semi-frequently, it wouldn't be an exception.

Maybe my suggestion sucks maybe not, I don't know. I just think having an off-topic go dozens of pages long in the main Super thread, which now turned into a Youtuber using it to justify himself over the whole ordeal, is beyond accepting it as inevitable and letting it be.

[Kishido]

Just the one who posted it for fun... Everyone else were just too fast to spread it as some sort of fact instead of waiting for SCANS and a proper translation

[Zamasu55]

I do wish the leaks were true.

Why?

[DrakenballP]

I do wish the leaks were true.

Why?

Frieza betraying U7 only to join up with Frost and having U7 need to find a final member with no time to search, only to have Yamcha or Buu or someone to show up.
It'd be fun.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Which part was fake? Was is the bit about Freeza joining another universe?

I'd actually want this to be the true part. Imagine Frieza turning other Universes against Universe 7 and making them sound like Frieza's enemy. It would add greatly to the development and direction this tournament is currently taking.

I'm looking forward to Frieza's defeat already. Either #17 or Vegeta will do it swiftly hopefully.

[Zamasu55]

I do wish the leaks were true.

Why?

Frieza betraying U7 only to join up with Frost and having U7 need to find a final member with no time to search, only to have Yamcha or Buu or someone to show up.
It'd be fun.

Yamcha would have been a weak choice, with all due respect for the character.
Buu needs two months of sleep.
And there isn't anyone else considering Future Trunks ain't coming back and Pikkon isn't canon.

I'd actually want this to be the true part. Imagine Frieza turning other Universes against Universe 7 and making them sound like Frieza's enemy. It would add greatly to the development and direction this tournament is currently taking.

I'm looking forward to Frieza's defeat already. Either #17 or Vegeta will do it swiftly hopefully.

We already have Toppo and Bergamo for that. And every universe is pretty much against U7 already.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Why?

Frieza betraying U7 only to join up with Frost and having U7 need to find a final member with no time to search, only to have Yamcha or Buu or someone to show up.
It'd be fun.

Yamcha would have been a weak choice, with all due respect for the character.
Buu needs two months of sleep.
And there isn't anyone else considering Future Trunks ain't coming back and Pikkon isn't canon.

They can MAKE Pikkon canon, just like they made Broly canon.

[Zamasu55]

Frieza betraying U7 only to join up with Frost and having U7 need to find a final member with no time to search, only to have Yamcha or Buu or someone to show up.
It'd be fun.

Yamcha would have been a weak choice, with all due respect for the character.
Buu needs two months of sleep.
And there isn't anyone else considering Future Trunks ain't coming back and Pikkon isn't canon.

They can MAKE Pikkon canon, just like they made Broly canon.

That's not Broly, it's Kale.

[Cipher]

Some say Goku was responsible, but others point out that if he hadn't written the fake leaks, fakes would have come out regardless, so at least he gave all of us a chance to spot them in the future.

Personally, I wish the arc would land one way or the other on the issue.

[DrakenballP]

Why?

Frieza betraying U7 only to join up with Frost and having U7 need to find a final member with no time to search, only to have Yamcha or Buu or someone to show up.
It'd be fun.

Yamcha would have been a weak choice, with all due respect for the character.
Buu needs two months of sleep.
And there isn't anyone else considering Future Trunks ain't coming back and Pikkon isn't canon.

I'd actually want this to be the true part. Imagine Frieza turning other Universes against Universe 7 and making them sound like Frieza's enemy. It would add greatly to the development and direction this tournament is currently taking.

I'm looking forward to Frieza's defeat already. Either #17 or Vegeta will do it swiftly hopefully.

We already have Toppo and Bergamo for that. And every universe is pretty much against U7 already.

Yet we have Tien and Krillin, and Mr Satan was considered by Goku.

I'm almost certain Yamcha is on-par with Krillin, if not stronger.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Why?

Frieza betraying U7 only to join up with Frost and having U7 need to find a final member with no time to search, only to have Yamcha or Buu or someone to show up.
It'd be fun.

Yamcha would have been a weak choice, with all due respect for the character.
Buu needs two months of sleep.
And there isn't anyone else considering Future Trunks ain't coming back and Pikkon isn't canon.

I'd actually want this to be the true part. Imagine Frieza turning other Universes against Universe 7 and making them sound like Frieza's enemy. It would add greatly to the development and direction this tournament is currently taking.

I'm looking forward to Frieza's defeat already. Either #17 or Vegeta will do it swiftly hopefully.

We already have Toppo and Bergamo for that. And every universe is pretty much against U7 already.

Yes I realize that. But just to add a layer to the cake. Would make it interesting if Frieza made himself look like the victim in front of everyone else. And it would give me another reason to not like him.

[FortuneSSJ]

Probably the same guy that said Piccolo had won against Frost and had a chance against Magetta in those fake leak titles during Champa arc.
What is more shocking is how a lot of people blindly trust everything they read on Internet and things blow out of proportion.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Could something be done about these rumours in this forum?

This is precisely why we don't cover this kind of "information" on our actual website (or even our official social media accounts), and the news that we do cover is stuff that we independently confirm through material that we actively purchase ourselves or can be validated through a trusted third-party.

Ya' know, like a proper news outlet would do.

That being said, if we actively discouraged, nevermind outright BANNED, speculative discussions? That wouldn't exactly go over well.

What WE need YOU all to do is: Set an example. Self-moderate. Make posts that are worth reading. Be a responsible internet citizen and Dragon Ball fan.

I wasn't thinking of such extremes like banning, I even consider that wrong. People have the right to discuss what they want. What I meant is trying to minimize the damages. Let people who want to talk about it speak among themselves, not shout to those who might not want to hear it.

When the first Freeza leak appeared I said something like: "hey guys maybe we shouldn't make a big deal out of this until it's confirmed"; to no avail. People can't moderate themselves when they are hungry for news.

What I imagined with my suggestion is people start going off-topic, we point them in the right direction. If they ignore it a moderator gives a warning and again directs them to the right thread. Something like this happens semi-frequently, it wouldn't be an exception.

Maybe my suggestion sucks maybe not, I don't know. I just think having an off-topic go dozens of pages long in the main Super thread, which now turned into a Youtuber using it to justify himself over the whole ordeal, is beyond accepting it as inevitable and letting it be.

On a forum its not possible to have a certain group discuss something but shield others as far as I know. Plus moderatprs already do that and I can tell you the team here expects far more than 99% of sites from posters...whether they get it or not is another story.

If you click the discussion thread you should know, if youve frequented the site, its mainly speculation and discussion including potential leaks. The best option we have as individuals is to do our own due dilligence and take potential leaks for what they are...potential.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Probably the same guy that said Piccolo had won against Frost and had a chance against Magetta in those fake leak titles during Champa arc.
What is more shocking is how a lot of people blindly trust everything they read on Internet and things blow out of proportion.

Piccolo technically DID beat Frost, but he had to be a sissy cheater.
Though I think Magetta would have smashed Piccolo no contest, that's pretty obvious.

[SaiyanSoul]

Frieza betraying U7 only to join up with Frost and having U7 need to find a final member with no time to search, only to have Yamcha or Buu or someone to show up.
It'd be fun.

Yamcha would have been a weak choice, with all due respect for the character.
Buu needs two months of sleep.
And there isn't anyone else considering Future Trunks ain't coming back and Pikkon isn't canon.

They can MAKE Pikkon canon, just like they made Broly canon.

If they made Pikkon Canon I would have been so happy. I rather him join the team than Roshi/Yamcha

[majinwarman]

It pretty much went like this:

- 2ch user posts summaries in Japanese
- GojiitaAF throws it into Google Translate and pastes it on his Facebook page
- Smugpup posts a proper translation on 4chan, while Ken Xyro posts his on Twitter
- Yamcha's voice actor tweets about recording a lot of lines for the character
- Confirmation bias leads many people into believing these leaks are real, and so it spreads across YouTube
- NewType scans release showcasing totally different staff and titles, but an almost identical title for #97 was featured, leading to more confusion
- Animedia apparently leaks and there are no Dragon Ball summaries at all this month
- Toshio Yoshitaka confirms the summaries spreading are fake

And that's about it, I think.

It's all a bit odd. Had the staff between the 2ch post and the NewType scans matched, it would be easy to say this particular user got the magazine early, changed some titles, and made up the summaries. That's not the case, so unless they deliberately made up the staff too (also a perfectly fine possibility), I'm curious as to how they managed to nail the title for #97.

Either way, it appears to all be fake. We won't know until all the magazines are out for real, but that's the general gist of things.

Lesson to be learned: trust nothing until you see the source with your own eyes (and ideally from multiple sources).

Thank you for that information and I will try to follow your way and not listen the lies floating the Internet.

[TekTheNinja]

Probably the same guy that said Piccolo had won against Frost and had a chance against Magetta in those fake leak titles during Champa arc.
What is more shocking is how a lot of people blindly trust everything they read on Internet and things blow out of proportion.

Those were also fake leaks that I wish were real. Honestly, it's pretty damn annoying that when a leak comes out that I hope is fake (like frieza replacing Buu) it turns out to be true, but when a leak I hope is real (like Piccolo being treated with some damn respect) it turns out to be fake. It's like these fake leakers are better writers than modern Toriyama imo and that's just depressing.

[Low Tone G]

because the leaked stuff was actually plausible to happen.

Frieza betraying a strong team of U7 Fighters he knows, only to join #LiterallyWhos in an Universe he knows nothing about, sure sounds "plausible". Just like a mysterious "HE" waiting for them miraculously already on the Tournament - The Great Strong Yamcha. Or Future Trunks who'd be violating time rules.

Yes, because The Void is a place so easy to reach on your own. /s

These leaks were literally casual fanfiction tier.

Just like the whole Super is sometimes, especially the FnF Arc, not only the execution, but its idea to begin with.