This is the very first time Vegeta achieves a new transformation ON-SCREEN!

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Re: This is the very first time Vegeta achieves a new transformation ON-SCREEN!

Post by MajinVegetaPD » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:56 pm

MisteryOne wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
MisteryOne wrote:Not really, he archieved Mastered SSB on the manga before, so you should say that it's the first time in the anime
That's not a new form though. Mastering something doesn't make it new.

Besides since the anime is the main product and OP even used "On Screen" a distinction doesn't need to be made.
Anime being the main product is completely irrevelant, what's your point?
"On screen" can also be used for any media when talking about the character doing something in the present or with the reader/viewer seeing it. It's not necessary to make a separate between "on panel" and "on screen".
ASS is not a proper form as well yet it's mentioned in the OP. Not to mention we don't even know if this "new form" is an actual new form or just a variation of Blue, as always. There is also the fact that MSSB was presented as an "evolution" in the manga.

Again, what was the point of your post?
We're honestly still trying to figure out the point of yours. You were wrong dude, move on.

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Re: This is the very first time Vegeta achieves a new transformation ON-SCREEN!

Post by shadowmaria » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:46 pm

Your opinion of GT's canonicity is irrelavent to the fact that Vegeta very clearly achieved a new transformation on screen in Dragon Ball GT, two in fact; Golden Great Ape and Super Saiyan 4.

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Re: This is the very first time Vegeta achieves a new transformation ON-SCREEN!

Post by majinwarman » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:13 am

shadowmaria wrote:Your opinion of GT's canonicity is irrelavent to the fact that Vegeta very clearly achieved a new transformation on screen in Dragon Ball GT, two in fact; Golden Great Ape and Super Saiyan 4.
You're right. Whether or not GT is canon doesn't mean anything. Vegeta has achieved two transformations onscreen whether you like it or not.
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Re: This is the very first time Vegeta achieves a new transformation ON-SCREEN!

Post by jplaya2023 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:26 am

to me vegetas new form is ascended ssj blue

the bulkier muscles, the spikier hair, sharper aura it's the same thing. I wanted vegeta to get offensive UI like goku has defensive UI. they can't beat jiren like this

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Re: This is the very first time Vegeta achieves a new transformation ON-SCREEN!

Post by batistabus » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:40 am

Sora Saiyan wrote:Do you have a source for this claim about him approving SSJ4? The only one I’ve ever seen is this.
I believe this is the source in question. Take from it what you will.
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
My sincerest gratitude to all those who bought this Dragon Ball GT DVD box. Being a lazy bum by nature, I was absurdly happy when I managed to safely finish up Dragon Ball’s serialization, and finally be released from Deadline Hell. The TV anime people wanted to continue for just a little bit more, but I [just couldn’t do] any more than that… And so, I left the Dragon Ball anime completely up to the anime staff, story and all. That was Dragon Ball GT.

In car lingo, GT means “Gran Turismo”: a fast, high-powered car, in other words. But in this case, I had GT mean “Grand Touring”, a great journey, since the scenario was that they’d be running around the universe.

For GT, all I did was just come up with the title, design the initial main cast and some of the machines, and also do a few images. However, I was able to rest easy handing things over to the excellent staff, who had continued on Dragon Ball for all this time. In particular, the animator Nakatsuru-kun is amazingly skilled, and mastered the peculiarities of my drawings in no time at all, to the point where there were even times when I couldn’t tell whether I had drawn a certain character design, or if he had. For instance, one of Nakatsuru-kun’s designs was “Super Saiyan 4″, which appears in GT, and the picture above is a portrait that I drew looking off it. Did I draw it well?

Dragon Ball GT is a grand side-story of the original Dragon Ball, and it’ll make me happy for us to watch and enjoy it together.

— Akira Toriyama

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Re: This is the very first time Vegeta achieves a new transformation ON-SCREEN!

Post by shadowmaria » Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:40 am

batistabus wrote:
Sora Saiyan wrote:Do you have a source for this claim about him approving SSJ4? The only one I’ve ever seen is this.
I believe this is the source in question. Take from it what you will.
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
My sincerest gratitude to all those who bought this Dragon Ball GT DVD box. Being a lazy bum by nature, I was absurdly happy when I managed to safely finish up Dragon Ball’s serialization, and finally be released from Deadline Hell. The TV anime people wanted to continue for just a little bit more, but I [just couldn’t do] any more than that… And so, I left the Dragon Ball anime completely up to the anime staff, story and all. That was Dragon Ball GT.

In car lingo, GT means “Gran Turismo”: a fast, high-powered car, in other words. But in this case, I had GT mean “Grand Touring”, a great journey, since the scenario was that they’d be running around the universe.

For GT, all I did was just come up with the title, design the initial main cast and some of the machines, and also do a few images. However, I was able to rest easy handing things over to the excellent staff, who had continued on Dragon Ball for all this time. In particular, the animator Nakatsuru-kun is amazingly skilled, and mastered the peculiarities of my drawings in no time at all, to the point where there were even times when I couldn’t tell whether I had drawn a certain character design, or if he had. For instance, one of Nakatsuru-kun’s designs was “Super Saiyan 4″, which appears in GT, and the picture above is a portrait that I drew looking off it. Did I draw it well?

Dragon Ball GT is a grand side-story of the original Dragon Ball, and it’ll make me happy for us to watch and enjoy it together.

— Akira Toriyama
There is also this lengthy interview which changed a lot of people's perspectives on Dragon Ball GT when it was uncovered last year

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