Toppo is NOT stronger than Sidra

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Yeap , sidra just gave some hakai energy to a dog that used it to attack Freeza ..( Toei filler ).?....we only can think that Freeza got so confident thinking he’ll stop that attack from Toppo and Toei wanted an homeage to namek battle , there’s no proofs to say who is stronger. sidra himself said that when it comes to barriers no one can match his speed .

Again with this filler nonsense.

There's no filler in Super, deal with it. It's not like the old Dragon Ball.

Ok sorry if that “filler” sentence bother you , I just meant to say that I don’t think that is in Toriyama s ideas from point a to point b , I can’t see a dog borrowing energie from sidra as a part of the plot , so I tend to call filler to all those chapters that don’t seem to fit in the important things of the arcs , so there’s a lot of what I call Toei filler( development of the story ) , some are better than others ... Just talking ... has sense for me , and if doesn’t have for you , excuse me .

DBS is not Toriyama's work, regardless of what is in this outline or not. I don't know why fans get worked up about what is the outline or not, it doesn't matter. Toriyama doesn't write how the fights are actually done so by that logic every fight in DBS is "filler" becuase they probably weren't how Toriyama envisioned them to be.

[prince212]

Again with this filler nonsense.

There's no filler in Super, deal with it. It's not like the old Dragon Ball.

Ok sorry if that “filler” sentence bother you , I just meant to say that I don’t think that is in Toriyama s ideas from point a to point b , I can’t see a dog borrowing energie from sidra as a part of the plot , so I tend to call filler to all those chapters that don’t seem to fit in the important things of the arcs , so there’s a lot of what I call Toei filler( development of the story ) , some are better than others ... Just talking ... has sense for me , and if doesn’t have for you , excuse me .

DBS is not Toriyama's work, regardless of what is in this outline or not. I don't know why fans get worked up about what is the outline or not, it doesn't matter. Toriyama doesn't write how the fights are actually done so by that logic every fight in DBS is "filler" becuase they probably weren't how Toriyama envisioned them to be.

I’m calm buddie , let me repeat what I tried to say in my post , clearly ... the dog borrowing Hakai energie look to be some Toei invention , that’s it , and dbs have plenty of those , it’s normal , no big deal.
I don’t know if dbs is not Toriyama s work like you said , IMO he might have some involvement, it’s not that hard of a work to give some writing ideas in 4 pages for what has to be there in every arc , and then Toei fill the blanks and Toyotarō does the same in the manga... and may be sometimes mr. tori have time to check and say I like your ideas or not . Who knows !,
Not a biggie , so please calm down and understand if somebody is making questions or suggestions