Dragon Ball Is Still making money and is Dominating.

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Re: Dragon Ball Is Still making money and is Dominating.

Post by TobyS » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:56 am

JohnnyCashKami wrote:
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zarmack wrote:At this rate, it is clear that Dragonball isn't dying any time soon.
Can't wait for the Coola movie in 2022!!
And Golden Coola is just gonna stand there watching it. :P
That's funny, you probably already know this but just an FYI check out the superior manga where Trunks and Coola have more to do.
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Post by Majin Buu » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:02 pm

Skar wrote:In a recent interview, the head of The Dragon Room said:
No matter how much we say, “We want to make a movie,” if Toriyama-sensei says “No,” it ends there… Well, hypothetically speaking; that’s not to say that Toriyama-sensei doesn’t want to do it. (laughs)

I'm sure they could continue until it stops making money but I like to think that they would stop once Toriyama retires out of respect for him as the original author. I prefer to think that than envision them as the stereotypical studio executive sitting behind their desk, counting their money, and brainstorming new ways to milk the franchise :P. I read that in 2008 Toei and Bandai wanted a new Dragonball anime but Toriyama refused so they went with DB Kai instead.
I guess what it comes down to is: Does Toriyama's will override the will of Toei's/Shueisha's executives? I personally can't see Toriyama being THAT powerful, but who knows.

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Post by sangofe » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:07 pm

Skar wrote:
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sangofe wrote:I'm inclined to think the creator can stop Dragon Ball if he wants to. He did allow Dragon Ball GT before, but he seems to care more about it than he did at the time. So we'll see. I'm not saying what you guys are saying can't happen, I'm just saying it's not guaranteed to happen, even if I'm one of those fans who enjoy almost all sorts of new Dragon Ball (even Heroes to some extent, but it's not the greatest thing out there, and I hope DB doesn't get reduced to that quality).
I don't think Toriyama has that kind of control over the franchise. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Shueisha and Toei own the manga and anime rights respectively, not Toriyama. Also, he had to talk to quite a few people behind the scenes when he wanted to end it before he could actually do it. I don't think even he has enough pull to say "no more Dragon Ball ever" and Shueisha and Toei just end it all right then and there.

Like Lord Beerus said, they're gonna continue it with or without Toriyama until they start seeing diminishing returns.
In a recent interview, the head of The Dragon Room said:
No matter how much we say, “We want to make a movie,” if Toriyama-sensei says “No,” it ends there… Well, hypothetically speaking; that’s not to say that Toriyama-sensei doesn’t want to do it. (laughs)

I'm sure they could continue until it stops making money but I like to think that they would stop once Toriyama retires out of respect for him as the original author. I prefer to think that than envision them as the stereotypical studio executive sitting behind their desk, counting their money, and brainstorming new ways to milk the franchise :P. I read that in 2008 Toei and Bandai wanted a new Dragonball anime but Toriyama refused so they went with DB Kai instead.
So that's where I had that idea from. I knew it wasn't mine, haha :P Thanks for bringing that up!
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Skar wrote:In a recent interview, the head of The Dragon Room said:
No matter how much we say, “We want to make a movie,” if Toriyama-sensei says “No,” it ends there… Well, hypothetically speaking; that’s not to say that Toriyama-sensei doesn’t want to do it. (laughs)

I'm sure they could continue until it stops making money but I like to think that they would stop once Toriyama retires out of respect for him as the original author. I prefer to think that than envision them as the stereotypical studio executive sitting behind their desk, counting their money, and brainstorming new ways to milk the franchise :P. I read that in 2008 Toei and Bandai wanted a new Dragonball anime but Toriyama refused so they went with DB Kai instead.
I guess what it comes down to is: Does Toriyama's will override the will of Toei's/Shueisha's executives? I personally can't see Toriyama being THAT powerful, but who knows.
You gotta remember that Japan and the West has different culture when it comes to paying respect. So I think they would listen to him.

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Post by JohnnyCashKami » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:15 pm

TobyS wrote:
JohnnyCashKami wrote:
Forte224 wrote: Can't wait for the Coola movie in 2022!!
And Golden Coola is just gonna stand there watching it. :P
That's funny, you probably already know this but just an FYI check out the superior manga where Trunks and Coola have more to do.
That's cool. Tbh, I just stick with series and movies worthwhile watching.

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Post by Skar » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:44 pm

Majin Buu wrote:I guess what it comes down to is: Does Toriyama's will override the will of Toei's/Shueisha's executives? I personally can't see Toriyama being THAT powerful, but who knows.
I don't necessarily mean more powerful just that they might not want to continue without him out of respect. They might realize it wouldn't be as successful without Toriyama being involved. Regardless of how great the story might be, I don't think fans would be as enthusiastic about a new Broly movie if Toriyama wasn't the one writing it. I've always liked Broly but I've come across many fans who hated his popularity and the idea of LSSJ being a berserker and now willing to give him a chance to see how Toriyama handles him.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:09 pm

Skar wrote:
Majin Buu wrote:I guess what it comes down to is: Does Toriyama's will override the will of Toei's/Shueisha's executives? I personally can't see Toriyama being THAT powerful, but who knows.
I don't necessarily mean more powerful just that they might not want to continue without him out of respect. They might realize it wouldn't be as successful without Toriyama being involved. Regardless of how great the story might be, I don't think fans would be as enthusiastic about a new Broly movie if Toriyama wasn't the one writing it. I've always liked Broly but I've come across many fans who hated his popularity and the idea of LSSJ being a berserker and now willing to give him a chance to see how Toriyama handles him.
I think you do make a good point. Think back to how he had a problem with something regarding DBS & then next arc we get blue haired Trunks and now they seem completely fine with Minus and overriding their own Bardock special. Seems they don't want to step on Toriyama's toes and lose him.

I absolutely wouldn't be as excited for the movie if Toriyama wasn't involved, for your exact reasons.

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Post by PhoenixEX » Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:07 pm

No surprise here, Dragon Ball is beyond popular and I am more than happy about that. Nice to see Digimon is doing alright overseas too.
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