Makes 0 sense that Goku and Gohan did not go back in for 1 more day

[Mystic-han]

Besides the fact Goku ego got in place

He was right , they (more specifically he) were reaching their limits , look at post 7 years of heavenly training Goku , he was barely stronger than CG Gohan outside of ssj3

[PhantomSaiyan]

he was barely stronger than CG Gohan outside of ssj3

Ssj3 is part of his strenght so I don't see why we shouldn't count it.
If he's only "barely stronger" than Cell Games Gohan if you pretend that his brand new transformation doesn't exist then perhaps he's actually more than just barely stronger

[Mystic-han]

he was barely stronger than CG Gohan outside of ssj3

Ssj3 is part of his strenght so I don't see why we shouldn't count it.
If he's only "barely stronger" than Cell Games Gohan if you pretend that his brand new transformation doesn't exist then perhaps he's actually more than just barely stronger

Ok let's consider Ssj3 here and forgot that BASE strength is the most important aspect of all transformations excluding Mui and UE

He barely had any control over it , it was literally worse than Grade 3 in the manga , Goku couldn't even Fire 1 full power attack with it

[PhantomSaiyan]

Ok let's consider Ssj3 here and forgot that BASE strength is the most important aspect of all transformations excluding Mui and UE

You can be as strong as you want in base, if you don't have enough transformations to keep up you're cooked, end of the story. Nothing you say can change this undesputable fact.

He barely had any control over it , it was literally worse than Grade 3 in the manga , Goku couldn't even Fire 1 full power attack with it

Still stronger than Cell Games Gohan and it's not debatable no matter how much you try
"but actually the base form" "but actually it's as bad as grade 3" all useless, it won't change the facts I'm afraid. Ssj3 could one shot ssj2 Gohan so even if it lasts as long as a fart he still wins, that's not "barely" stronger.

And general advice, if you want to have attitude and use face palm emojis at least make sure you have an actual point

[Mystic-han]

Ok let's consider Ssj3 here and forgot that BASE strength is the most important aspect of all transformations excluding Mui and UE

You can be as strong as you want in base, if you don't have enough transformations to keep up you're cooked, end of the story. Nothing you say can change this undesputable fact.
"Base form doesn't matter" expect when it does? Goku would have been rapid by freeza if it weren't for the fact his Zenkai so happened to make him 33x stronger , just right enough for the Ssj multiple to make him stronger than freeza

Or the androids raining a train on the Ssj before Rosat

Or Trunks straight out being = Ssj3 Goku

Or vegeta needing a Power unlock


Should have known better to not talk with someone that have a Daima

He barely had any control over it , it was literally worse than Grade 3 in the manga , Goku couldn't even Fire 1 full power attack with it

Still stronger than Cell Games Gohan and it's not debatable no matter how much you try
"but actually the base form" "but actually it's as bad as grade 3" all useless, it won't change the facts I'm afraid. Ssj3 could one shot ssj2 Gohan so even if it lasts as long as a fart he still wins, that's not "barely" stronger.

And general advice, if you want to have attitude and use face palm emojis at least make sure you have an actual point

[PhantomSaiyan]

Ok let's consider Ssj3 here and forgot that BASE strength is the most important aspect of all transformations excluding Mui and UE

You can be as strong as you want in base, if you don't have enough transformations to keep up you're cooked, end of the story. Nothing you say can change this undesputable fact.
"Base form doesn't matter" expect when it does? Goku would have been rapid by freeza if it weren't for the fact his Zenkai so happened to make him 33x stronger , just right enough for the Ssj multiple to make him stronger than freeza

Or the androids raining a train on the Ssj before Rosat

Or Trunks straight out being = Ssj3 Goku

Or vegeta needing a Power unlock


Should have known better to not talk with someone that have a Daima

He barely had any control over it , it was literally worse than Grade 3 in the manga , Goku couldn't even Fire 1 full power attack with it

Still stronger than Cell Games Gohan and it's not debatable no matter how much you try
"but actually the base form" "but actually it's as bad as grade 3" all useless, it won't change the facts I'm afraid. Ssj3 could one shot ssj2 Gohan so even if it lasts as long as a fart he still wins, that's not "barely" stronger.

And general advice, if you want to have attitude and use face palm emojis at least make sure you have an actual point

You should really reformat your post, you've made a mess, the distinction between what I wrote and what you wrote is barely understandable.
But it's fine, you've said a whole bunch of nothing. Buu saga isn't "barely" stronger than Cell Games Gohan and never will be no matter how much you want that to happen.

Should have known better to not talk with someone that have a Daima

I care little for your attitude or childish attempts at personal attacks, these things coming from internet strangers who haven't gained my respect yet mean literally nothing to me. Do better.

[Slangh]

Dende may heal your body but he can't make you like the time chamber more. Vegeta had this tough guy attitude about it: "poor little Kakarot can't handle the chamber?", and Goku replied "if you like to suffer then go for it". Goku has a free spirit, which was what kept him from going in for another year. He likes to train but doesn't force his body. His approach to Kaioken is another example because his knows he'll suffer too much if he abuses it.

Goku's true miscalculation was on Gohan's character, because his only concern was making him stronger than him.

[FoolsGil]

I agree Goku's reason for and him and Gohan not going in a second time was flimsy. Never before this moment or since, were anyone, least of all a Saiyan, worried about overwork.

[Cursed Lemon]

Goku, who has pushed through every limit he's ever faced: "I've hit my limit"

[JulieYBM]

The reality of the situation is that Gokuu just wanted to spend a week playing the new Dragon Quest.

[Cursed Lemon]

Bullshit he was playing Chrono Trigger for the 25th time

[JulieYBM]

Bullshit he was playing Chrono Trigger for the 25th time

Dragon Ball Chapter #391 was serialized 22 September 1992. Chrono Trigger was released 11 March 1995.