Makes 0 sense that Goku and Gohan did not go back in for 1 more day

[Mystic-han]

Besides the fact Goku ego got in place

He was right , they (more specifically he) were reaching their limits , look at post 7 years of heavenly training Goku , he was barely stronger than CG Gohan outside of ssj3

[PhantomSaiyan]

he was barely stronger than CG Gohan outside of ssj3

Ssj3 is part of his strenght so I don't see why we shouldn't count it.
If he's only "barely stronger" than Cell Games Gohan if you pretend that his brand new transformation doesn't exist then perhaps he's actually more than just barely stronger

[Mystic-han]

he was barely stronger than CG Gohan outside of ssj3

Ssj3 is part of his strenght so I don't see why we shouldn't count it.
If he's only "barely stronger" than Cell Games Gohan if you pretend that his brand new transformation doesn't exist then perhaps he's actually more than just barely stronger

Ok let's consider Ssj3 here and forgot that BASE strength is the most important aspect of all transformations excluding Mui and UE

He barely had any control over it , it was literally worse than Grade 3 in the manga , Goku couldn't even Fire 1 full power attack with it

[PhantomSaiyan]

Ok let's consider Ssj3 here and forgot that BASE strength is the most important aspect of all transformations excluding Mui and UE

You can be as strong as you want in base, if you don't have enough transformations to keep up you're cooked, end of the story. Nothing you say can change this undesputable fact.

He barely had any control over it , it was literally worse than Grade 3 in the manga , Goku couldn't even Fire 1 full power attack with it

Still stronger than Cell Games Gohan and it's not debatable no matter how much you try
"but actually the base form" "but actually it's as bad as grade 3" all useless, it won't change the facts I'm afraid. Ssj3 could one shot ssj2 Gohan so even if it lasts as long as a fart he still wins, that's not "barely" stronger.

And general advice, if you want to have attitude and use face palm emojis at least make sure you have an actual point

[Mystic-han]

Ok let's consider Ssj3 here and forgot that BASE strength is the most important aspect of all transformations excluding Mui and UE

You can be as strong as you want in base, if you don't have enough transformations to keep up you're cooked, end of the story. Nothing you say can change this undesputable fact.
"Base form doesn't matter" expect when it does? Goku would have been rapid by freeza if it weren't for the fact his Zenkai so happened to make him 33x stronger , just right enough for the Ssj multiple to make him stronger than freeza

Or the androids raining a train on the Ssj before Rosat

Or Trunks straight out being = Ssj3 Goku

Or vegeta needing a Power unlock


Should have known better to not talk with someone that have a Daima

He barely had any control over it , it was literally worse than Grade 3 in the manga , Goku couldn't even Fire 1 full power attack with it

Still stronger than Cell Games Gohan and it's not debatable no matter how much you try
"but actually the base form" "but actually it's as bad as grade 3" all useless, it won't change the facts I'm afraid. Ssj3 could one shot ssj2 Gohan so even if it lasts as long as a fart he still wins, that's not "barely" stronger.

And general advice, if you want to have attitude and use face palm emojis at least make sure you have an actual point

[PhantomSaiyan]

Ok let's consider Ssj3 here and forgot that BASE strength is the most important aspect of all transformations excluding Mui and UE

You can be as strong as you want in base, if you don't have enough transformations to keep up you're cooked, end of the story. Nothing you say can change this undesputable fact.
"Base form doesn't matter" expect when it does? Goku would have been rapid by freeza if it weren't for the fact his Zenkai so happened to make him 33x stronger , just right enough for the Ssj multiple to make him stronger than freeza

Or the androids raining a train on the Ssj before Rosat

Or Trunks straight out being = Ssj3 Goku

Or vegeta needing a Power unlock


Should have known better to not talk with someone that have a Daima

He barely had any control over it , it was literally worse than Grade 3 in the manga , Goku couldn't even Fire 1 full power attack with it

Still stronger than Cell Games Gohan and it's not debatable no matter how much you try
"but actually the base form" "but actually it's as bad as grade 3" all useless, it won't change the facts I'm afraid. Ssj3 could one shot ssj2 Gohan so even if it lasts as long as a fart he still wins, that's not "barely" stronger.

And general advice, if you want to have attitude and use face palm emojis at least make sure you have an actual point

You should really reformat your post, you've made a mess, the distinction between what I wrote and what you wrote is barely understandable.
But it's fine, you've said a whole bunch of nothing. Buu saga isn't "barely" stronger than Cell Games Gohan and never will be no matter how much you want that to happen.

Should have known better to not talk with someone that have a Daima

I care little for your attitude or childish attempts at personal attacks, these things coming from internet strangers who haven't gained my respect yet mean literally nothing to me. Do better.

[Slangh]

Dende may heal your body but he can't make you like the time chamber more. Vegeta had this tough guy attitude about it: "poor little Kakarot can't handle the chamber?", and Goku replied "if you like to suffer then go for it". Goku has a free spirit, which was what kept him from going in for another year. He likes to train but doesn't force his body. His approach to Kaioken is another example because his knows he'll suffer too much if he abuses it.

Goku's true miscalculation was on Gohan's character, because his only concern was making him stronger than him.

[FoolsGil]

I agree Goku's reason for and him and Gohan not going in a second time was flimsy. Never before this moment or since, were anyone, least of all a Saiyan, worried about overwork.

[Cursed Lemon]

Goku, who has pushed through every limit he's ever faced: "I've hit my limit"

[JulieYBM]

The reality of the situation is that Gokuu just wanted to spend a week playing the new Dragon Quest.

[Cursed Lemon]

Bullshit he was playing Chrono Trigger for the 25th time

[JulieYBM]

Bullshit he was playing Chrono Trigger for the 25th time

Dragon Ball Chapter #391 was serialized 22 September 1992. Chrono Trigger was released 11 March 1995.

[Cursed Lemon]

You win this round

[Saiya6Cit]

Didn't you see it? Goku was busy making Goten before Cell games. Not being at home would mean no fun times. And Goten would not exist.

Or maybe he did not want to mentally stress.

Or maybe he did not want for Gohan to grow to a point in which he would no longer be a child and then he would have trouble with Chichi because of that? Well... maybe not. That seems like a very advance train of thought for him...

Maybe it was to make things more interesting, I mean knowing Goku, he problably would not want to surpass Cell by too much otherwise it would not be an interesting/fun fight for him.

[TobyS]

Besides the fact Goku ego got in place

He was right , they (more specifically he) were reaching their limits , look at post 7 years of heavenly training Goku , he was barely stronger than CG Gohan outside of ssj3

This is correct and I dunno why people are being weird about it.
They didn't get much stronger in the 7 years. Transformations are multipliers, Goku barely got above base gohan in the same form, he just unlocked a new form. Which is good, but it's not an increase with the character.

It's like saying Base Goku after unlocking ss1 is stronger than base Goku 1 second before going ss, he probably isn't. That's the point of transforming.

[ScouterSSJ]

It actually made perfect sense.
Goku’s plan was to use Cell as a way to help Gohan mature, both as a person and as a fighter.
Another year of training would have made it easy for them—especially Gohan—to defeat Cell, but that wouldn’t have allowed Gohan to grow in the way he needed.

In fact, the entire subplot of the Cell fight is about Gohan’s development in exactly this way.
It’s a shame that all this growth is basically thrown away in the Buu saga, but since Toriyama originally intended for the series to end after Cell, it really was the perfect conclusion to the arc that began with Raditz—Gohan surpassing and replacing Goku as Earth’s hero.