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by vicdmx » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:48 pm
VegettoEX wrote:Raki wrote:Being as Toriyama forgot about many of his characters, maybe Toei forgot about Raditz.
Nah. He showed up again in some Freeza arc filler material where Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz are dealing with Freeza and talking about some rebellion and stuffage. Think it's circa episode 100.
Yeah now i remember in the frieza saga there was a scene were Raditz,Nappa and Vegeta appered I got confused I thought Raditz appered in the Bardock movie but now i remember that he was shown in episode 100.
Thanks for clearing that up VegettoEX.
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by Dark Vegeta-Sama » Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:57 pm
Onikage725 wrote:Ya know, one thing not many dub fans know I've noticed. When Freeza regards Gohan in the dub he is puzzled that he can't figure out where the kid came from. However, in the subs he actually does mention that the kid kinda resembles Raditz, and even surmises that he may be Raditz's kid (slightly off, but always thought it was a good guess). He doesn't seem to relate Raditz to Bardock at all though (though he does for Goku, obviously).
That's interesting.
Does Freeza make the connection between Raditz and Gohan in the manga as well?
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by Herms » Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:44 pm
Dark Vegeta-Sama wrote:Does Freeza make the connection between Raditz and Gohan in the manga as well?
Yep. The scene plays out exactly the same in the manga and anime.
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by dragondyle » Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:58 pm
Herms wrote:Dark Vegeta-Sama wrote:Does Freeza make the connection between Raditz and Gohan in the manga as well?
Yep. The scene plays out exactly the same in the manga and anime.
Come to think of it, Gohan somewhat does resemble Raditz.
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by saiyanprincess » Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:49 pm
Yes, you're right, Radditz does look slightly similar to Gohan! On the other hand, Goten looks like a clone of his father until he starts to grow up and cuts his hair. ^_^
To answer your question, yes Radditz and Goku are both full blooded brothers; it came straight from Radditz's mouth in one of the first episodes. He even quotes about being an 'uncle' to Gohan.
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by Vegeta Jr » Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:57 pm
saiyanprincess wrote:Yes, you're right, Radditz does look slightly similar to Gohan! On the other hand, Goten looks like a clone of his father until he starts to grow up and cuts his hair. ^_^
To answer your question, yes Radditz and Goku are both full blooded brothers; it came straight from Radditz's mouth in one of the first episodes. He even quotes about being an 'uncle' to Gohan.
Ye
s, but using 'Uncle' as proof that they are fully brothers and not half
(brothers) doesn't prove anything
; he would still be his Uncle.
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by Conan the SSJ » Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:14 pm
Vegeta Jr wrote:Yea but using 'Uncle' as proof that they are fully brothers and not half doesn't prove anything, he would still be his Uncle.
I have given proof:
I wrote:Kakarrot and Raditz are full-blooded brothers. Proof being, in the Japanese version of episode 2 when he's describing Planet Vegeta, "our mother and father were both killed along with everyone else". From Simmons' translation.
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by Vegeta Jr » Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:15 pm
Conan the SSJ wrote:Vegeta Jr wrote:Yea but using 'Uncle' as proof that they are fully brothers and not half doesn't prove anything, he would still be his Uncle.
I have given proof:
Conan the SSJ wrote:Kakarrot and Raditz are full-blooded brothers. Proof being, in the Japanese version of episode 2 when he's describing Planet Vegeta, "our mother and father were both killed along with everyone else".
No no no, I'm not saying they aren't just that using that Uncle thing doesn't prove it.
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by Raki » Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:27 pm
VegettoEX wrote:Raki wrote:Being as Toriyama forgot about many of his characters, maybe Toei forgot about Raditz.
Nah. He showed up again in some Freeza arc filler material where Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz are dealing with Freeza and talking about some rebellion and stuffage. Think it's circa episode 100.
Oh I remember that. But the TV special was before that right?
The series doesn't start with the arrival of Raditz. Stop being lazy and watch Dragonball.
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by Onikage725 » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:54 pm
saiyanprincess wrote:Yes your right, Radditz does look slightly similar to Gohan! On the otherhand Goten looks like a clone of his father until he starts to grow up and cuts his hair ^_^
To answer your question, Yes Radditz and Goku are both full blooded brothers, it came straight from Radditz' mouth on one of the first episodes. He even quotes about being an 'uncle' to Gohan.
Heh, in the last few eps of Z Goten's hair is shaggy kinda like his deceased uncles' (though far less extreme).
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by Herms » Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:02 pm
Onikage725 wrote:Heh, in the last few eps of Z Goten's hair is shaggy kinda like his deceased uncles' (though far less extreme).
I wonder if they ever told Goten about Raditz? That'd be kind of an akward family story: "Yeah, we had an uncle, but he was a homicidal maniac so dad had to kill him. I helped!" For that matter, I wonder how much of everyone's history he knows? I remember that he didn't seem to know Vegeta used to be the prince of the Saiyans, because Trunks told him that before Vegeta's sacrifice.
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by dragondyle » Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:11 pm
Herms wrote:Onikage725 wrote:Heh, in the last few eps of Z Goten's hair is shaggy kinda like his deceased uncles' (though far less extreme).
I wonder if they ever told Goten about Raditz? That'd be kind of an akward family story: "Yeah, we had an uncle, but he was a homicidal maniac so dad had to kill him. I helped!" For that matter, I wonder how much of everyone's history he knows? I remember that he didn't seem to know Vegeta used to be the prince of the Saiyans, because Trunks told him that before Vegeta's sacrifice.
I don't think Goten knows a lot about everyone's past. Maybe they all eventually tell him off screen.
Also, Gohan's hair was getting pretty long during the Android saga (or was it earlier than that?) and it resembled Raditz's hair.
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by Onikage725 » Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:39 pm
dragondyle wrote:Herms wrote:Onikage725 wrote:Heh, in the last few eps of Z Goten's hair is shaggy kinda like his deceased uncles' (though far less extreme).
I wonder if they ever told Goten about Raditz? That'd be kind of an akward family story: "Yeah, we had an uncle, but he was a homicidal maniac so dad had to kill him. I helped!" For that matter, I wonder how much of everyone's history he knows? I remember that he didn't seem to know Vegeta used to be the prince of the Saiyans, because Trunks told him that before Vegeta's sacrifice.
I don't think Goten knows a lot about everyone's past. Maybe they all eventually tell him off screen.
Also, Gohan's hair was getting pretty long during the Android saga (or was it earlier than that?) and it resembled Raditz's hair.
Yeah actually... in the RoSat up until he went SSJ he was pretty Raditz-ish. I love that quality. As someone of mixed heritage, I find my hair to have a blending of qualities from both parents. I love seeing that wih the half-Saiyans. They can style and grow their hair more easily than a full blood, but they can also just let it be Saiayan-ish (Gohan's two RoSaT looks went from lil Raditz to something Goku-ish but less ridiculous).
Actually, Bulma's kids don't ever seem to show that quality. Trunks only gains those traits when super.
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by Herms » Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:59 pm
Not really:
On the first page, I wrote:Anyway, every guidebook ever identifies him simply as "Goku's older brother" with no caveats, and all of the family trees always have him as Burdock's child.
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by Vekurotto » Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:39 pm
You know, I still don't see the resemblance between Goku and Radditz. Radditz just looks like a completely different character design unrelated to any of Goku's features. Yeah, most siblings don't look exactly alike but still, you know they're related.
Onikage725 wrote:Nope. Justin Cook rocks. I just wish he didn't have to follow that lame script from the initial dub.
On the season sets when Radditz first encounters Piccolo,
"You must not be from this world"
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by Thanos6 » Thu May 15, 2008 10:50 pm
Re: Goten and Raditz.
I remember this one half-decent fanfic where Raditz's ghost pops up but only Goten can see him, and everyone else is wondering who the hell this "Nunk Rats" (Uncle Raditz) Goten starts talking about is.
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