Super Buu Compared to Fat Buu

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Post by mAcChaos » Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:19 pm

I'm trying to figure out why Kid Buu didn't come out when Fat Buu split. I think there was a reason... but I can't remember it anymore.
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Post by Horgus » Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:22 pm

Onikage725 wrote: Buu himself couldn't be using South Kaioshin as a power source, if that's true, so his large form had to just be some kind of muscle memory.
Well this is entirely speculation, but I personally think that when Fat Buu was sealed away, the Dai Kaioshin and South Kaioshin became a part of Buu for so long, that they were completely digested and all that was left was the impact of their power and personality upon Buu.

When Fat Buu was yanked out, he naturally would have cycled through the previous forms until finally going back to the way he was so long ago.

My basic point is is that Kid Buu is the slate, and everything else was collected into what became Mr. Buu.
mAcChaos wrote:I'm trying to figure out why Kid Buu didn't come out when Fat Buu split. I think there was a reason... but I can't remember it anymore.
Thats a question I have wrestled with myself, but I think an answer can be created thats more satisfying than 'Toriyama was lazy and making it up as he went along.'


This is my opinion as to your question: I think that when Fat Buu had his internal conflict, that Kid Buu was too heavily ingrained into his being to just 'come out' all on his own.

What came out was the evil essense *within* Fat Buu, meaning any of the evil elements of the Kaioshins, plus Kid Buu's essence. Evil Buu wasn't Kid Buu, he was just the evil portion of Mr. Buu with Kid Buu's power.

My point is, that when Evil Buu and Mr. Buu combined to make Super Buu, he was a continuation of Fat Buu, and not some separate Buu altogether like Kid Buu was in terms of continuity.

I hope that makes sense

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Post by Metrite » Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:14 pm

mAcChaos wrote:I'm trying to figure out why Kid Buu didn't come out when Fat Buu split. I think there was a reason... but I can't remember it anymore.
That's just like the age old question, "Why didn't Evil Buu turn into Pure Evil Buu when Good Buu was ripped out?" That's also almost the exact same as asking, "When Buu split, why didn't he split into Pure Buu and the Kaioshins." lol

The true answer to keep things simple has always been, "Toriyama just made it up as he went." :P Back when Buu first appeared, at that time you can bet the concept of him not being the original Buu hadn't even been thought up, yet. Later he probably was pressured to turn Buu into a more "real" villain and so racked his brain and came up with the concept of having him split like Kami once did. So Buu gets enraged and unleashes it as a seperate Buu. The real question here is, "Why did the evil one look so different?" lol Perhaps he just figured having the other Buu also be the opposite in looks would make the result of going back together being a fit Buu make more sense. :P So now we had Evil Buu who was basically Good Buu with his gut sucked in going on a permanent rage trip. At this point, was the idea that they recombined by absorption, meaning one Buu is literaly inside the other, around? Probably not. Eventually, when it got near the part where everybody gets removed, he then needed to come up with a plot twist, and thus thought up the concept of Buu having once absorbed somebody and becoming weaker.

The way it seemed to work was, Evil Buu was basically the other Buu gone bad, so he was the same person. The reason he pleaded for Vegeta not to rip out the other Buu was because that's where who he is comes from, which is why he said "I won't be me, anymore!" Ripping him out was the same as if you ripped the Kaioshins out of Fat Buu. It's like it seperated the two, making one Buu the same as he was before dividing(which is why Vegeta insisted on killing him so he wouldn't risk giving rise to the evil Buu, again) and the other was Buu, and nothing but Buu, making him Pure Buu.

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Post by mAcChaos » Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:41 pm

Huh, I never thought Evil Buu would still be in Mr. Buu... but that kind of makes sense. The only thing is that he should've been able to decimate Kid Buu, then, I think.
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