Live-Action movie and Godzilla

[Hao_Kaiser]

Toei does Super Sentai, right?
I'd love to see a really campy DBZ movie done in that style.

Dragon Ball minus Toriyama's style? That's already a bad idea right there.

I dunno about you, but I thought those pictures drawn by other manga artists that were in the Kanzenban were pretty awesome.

I agree that it isn't necessarily the same thing when they aren't able to completely replicate Toriyama's style, but it also isn't fair to totally write something off just because it's live action. DBZ movie 11 had Toriyama's style, and it's pretty "bleh," and Sagas (ew...) had an opening movie using Toriyama's style. The original art style isn't the end-all-be-all of quality for Dragon Ball offshoots.

I can only assume that, if put in Japanese hands, they could probably recreate some stylistic elements from the manga in some sort of live-action context. They (as in, the general population) care more about the series as a whole than the US does.

All that said, if Japan was to get all up in arms over the quality of our live action movie, I'd much rather Toei put that effort into new animation, which is more logical anyways.

They (Toho) only made a new live action Godzilla because... Y'know, all of their other Godzilla movies were live action. If they were to have countered our Godzilla with an anime, that would have been a little weird.

I think Toho really wanted something to cleanse the franchise after America soiled it, so I think Toei would honestly take the safe route, and just make more animation, rather than risk a screwed-up live action version... If it were to come to that.

[Super Ghost Kamikaze]

To be fair, Toei has had their shot at animated movies several times, and most of them aren't exactly stellar.

[Acid_Reign]

... Er. I'm not exactly the kind of guy who would take up arms to defend the anime, far from it, but as ugly as some episodes may be, Toriyama's style is definitely there.

It's still an imitation, though. It captures the essence of the thing but it lacks that certain quality that only comes through in the original. That only can come through in the original. Does that mean it's no good, though? Of course not. Because it serves its purpose as a variation, not a duplication, of the existing concept. The same goes for a live-action movie, action figure, video game, or any other adaptation thereof.

Of course, it's favorable if there is some semblance to the source material, and so the challenge then as the adapting artist is to find an appropriate balance between divergence from and familiarity to the work's namesake. My main gripe with the current theatrical attempt is that it does not try to strike a balance at all but rather tips the scales completely in favor of divergence, neglecting familiarity and thus alienating the established fanbase.

So while I completely understand the "X isn't/wouldn't be Dragon Ball" complaint, I at the same time can not fathom having a threshold for perceived injustices so low that faithfulness to the art style would be the upper limit. Seems rather close-minded and doesn't leave much room for enjoyment of what might otherwise be great pieces of entertainment.

[Olivier Hague]

I dunno about you, but I thought those pictures drawn by other manga artists that were in the Kanzenban were pretty awesome.

Well, they were interesting, at least.

But my point would be that Dragon Ball, despite all its flaws, still works precisely because it's a cartoon. And a cartoon that's "not exactly" concerned with realism. So the very concept of turning it into a live-action movie sounds utterly misguided to me.

DBZ movie 11 had Toriyama's style, and it's pretty "bleh,"

Now, now, I never said Toriyama's style was some kind of a "magical ingredient". ^^;

[Acid_Reign]

But my point would be that Dragon Ball, despite all its flaws, still works precisely because it's a cartoon. And a cartoon that's "not exactly" concerned with realism. So the very concept of turning it into a live-action movie sounds utterly misguided to me.

But there's nothing stopping cartoony elements from finding their way into live-action interpretations (see: Speed Racer).

[Olivier Hague]

'Can't say I would consider that one a success...

[Acid_Reign]

What does that matter, though? The point is, it can be done. There's nothing stopping a good (and accurate) Dragon Ball LAM from being made.

[jda95]

There's nothing stopping a good (and accurate) Dragon Ball LAM from being made.

20th Century Fox.

[Olivier Hague]

What does that matter, though? The point is, it can be done.

Like I said, I don't think so. The "cartoon style" makes the whole thing work. Without it, it's a bit of a mess, in my opinion. The story isn't that great, the characters lack depth...

[Super Ghost Kamikaze]

What does that matter, though? The point is, it can be done.

Like I said, I don't think so. The "cartoon style" makes the whole thing work. Without it, it's a bit of a mess, in my opinion. The story isn't that great, the characters lack depth...

I somewhat disagree.

[Super Sayian Prime]

There's nothing stopping a good (and accurate) Dragon Ball LAM from being made.

The fact that Speed Racer, an movie adapted from an anime series, that was done in a cartoony style, was an expensive box office blunder. That is what is stoping a cartoony DragonBall LAM. Toei making a Japanese movie isn't going to be able to afford to pull off Speed Racer's visuals. And very few American studios are going to go gagga for that idea when they've seen how movies like that tank.

Also, this thread has a stench of "Japan RuleZ, USA suxxors". I will say this, while each and every Live Action Resident Evil movie was flawed, they were still miles more entertaining then Degeneration.

[Chuquita]

I'd like to see instead of a live-action movie from Japan, a new animated movie from Toei.


Something about as long as Movie 8 (a little over an hour or so), not just the usual 50 minutes.

[JAPPO]

I'd like to see a Japanese movie too. I'd love to compare them.

[Kendamu]

To be fair Japan had Godzilla coming for what they did to Spider-man!

At least we got Power Rangers out of it. That's always fun to look back on with a bit of a chuckle.

[Hao_Kaiser]

Also, this thread has a stench of "Japan RuleZ, USA suxxors". I will say this, while each and every Live Action Resident Evil movie was flawed, they were still miles more entertaining then Degeneration.

When it comes to Dragon Ball, Japan does "Ruelz" and the USA does "suxxors."

And, admittedly, I haven't seen any of the RE films, and I've only played RE 4, but, in my opinion, the storyline of that game wasn't all that entertaining to begin with.

[Tsukento]

I'd like to see instead of a live-action movie from Japan, a new animated movie from Toei.


Something about as long as Movie 8 (a little over an hour or so), not just the usual 50 minutes.

This.

Hell, make it even better by making it a Dragon Ball and One Piece cross-over. That ride attraction animation was too short and wasn't exactly open to a good chunk of people to see.

Although, I'd honestly hope they put a little more effort into the story if they did make it happen, unlike Epoch Cross.

[SHINOBI-03]

Also, this thread has a stench of "Japan RuleZ, USA suxxors". I will say this, while each and every Live Action Resident Evil movie was flawed, they were still miles more entertaining then Degeneration.

When it comes to Dragon Ball, Japan does "Ruelz" and the USA does "suxxors."

And, admittedly, I haven't seen any of the RE films, and I've only played RE 4, but, in my opinion, the storyline of that game wasn't all that entertaining to begin with.

I don't want to turn it into a RE discussion, but just to let you know...

a lot of RE fans said that the 4th game wasn't as good as the rest of the seriers because it shifted from horror to action.

Back to topic ----

I know at least one Anime/Manga that turned into Live-Action movies made by Japan. And that's Death Note.

It wasn't that bad, but they used the original ending were Light begs Ryuk for help and the later write his name in the note book instead of the others.

It used the first half of the show, and the other half was based on the second, but with L instead on Near. And the third ((haven't seen it yet)) a spin-off orignal story *I think*

And some of you brought up the Sentai shows. Some of it are weekly shows and they use nowadays CG for Special Effects.

Imagine Dragon Ball as a Sentai show. Do you think it'll be close to Power Rangers, Kamen Riders Ultra Man, Aizenborg and such?

[Chuquita]

Imagine Dragon Ball as a Sentai show.

Oh how I would watch this. X3

Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Bulma, and Gohan in hilariously garish Power Rangers-esque uniforms (Vegeta's a Bad Man, so he gets to be the Pink Ranger) while all on-board some giant mecha-Porunga with legs that battles giant monsters created by Freeza and his henchmen?

That'd make for some tasty cheese. :3


*Looks at Toei's animation department*.

[Kendamu]

Imagine Dragon Ball as a Sentai show.

Oh how I would watch this. X3

Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Bulma, and Gohan in hilariously garish Power Rangers-esque uniforms (Vegeta's a Bad Man, so he gets to be the Pink Ranger) while all on-board some giant mecha-Porunga with legs that battles giant monsters created by Freeza and his henchmen?

That'd make for some tasty cheese. :3


*Looks at Toei's animation department*.

That is something worth a giant tub of popcorn while watching!

[Kingdom Heartless]

I can just imagine a cartoony Dragon Ball movie with a live-action Bulma hitting Roshi in the head with a giant hammer.

That alone would make a movie worthwhile.