Is Goku to be blamed if anybody dies in the Tournament?

[Gog]

And then Cell goes full power and kills Gohan. Good thing he didn't listen to your pussy boy advice.

You mean what Cell did originally? and pussy boy advice? To what? Goku's brain dead decision? It would have been better if he had listened to this 'pussy boy advice'

If you want Gohan dead then yes it's better.

Then it's a win-win for me. But regardless it really didn't matter much in the end anyway as Cell was going to kill Gohan regardless, but it's still unfathomably stupid to hand your enemy a free heal.

[Faisal Shourov]

Why do people compare Goku to Superman? Superman is never obsessed with fighting. Goku has nothing to do with Superman except both can fly and fight villains. And there are thousands of other superheroes who can do that as well

Because Toriyama literally made his back story the same as Supermans

Goku is inspired for Sun Wukong (japanese for Sun Wukong is literally Son Goku). Goku is not a Superman clone, he's a tribute to the chinese monkey king

[TheMikado]

Why do people compare Goku to Superman? Superman is never obsessed with fighting. Goku has nothing to do with Superman except both can fly and fight villains. And there are thousands of other superheroes who can do that as well

Because Toriyama literally made his back story the same as Supermans

Goku is inspired for Sun Wukong (japanese for Sun Wukong is literally Son Goku). Goku is not a Superman clone, he's a tribute to the chinese monkey king

No, old Goku was based on the Journey to the West. Modern Dragonball Minus Gokus backstory has more in common with supermans than anything else.

[Mewzard]

Goku is inspired for Sun Wukong (japanese for Sun Wukong is literally Son Goku). Goku is not a Superman clone, he's a tribute to the chinese monkey king

An infant sent from his home planet to Earth just before its destruction to become a person who ends up saving said Earth? Pretty Superman, even just in the Z interpretation. DB- having Bardock be the one to send him to Earth due to a planetary threat nobody else knows about/believes in pushes that even further into Superman territory.

[HeroR]

Goku is inspired for Sun Wukong (japanese for Sun Wukong is literally Son Goku). Goku is not a Superman clone, he's a tribute to the chinese monkey king

An infant sent from his home planet to Earth just before its destruction to become a person who ends up saving said Earth? Pretty Superman, even just in the Z interpretation. DB- having Bardock be the one to send him to Earth due to a planetary threat nobody else knows about/believes in pushes that even further into Superman territory.

Goku is still primary based on Sun Wukong from his name, personality, and even some of his quirks. Having a similar backstory to Superman, who isn't the first one to even have this type of backstory, doesn't ties Goku into Superman. And Goku 'saving the Earth' was an accident, not design like most Superman's stories.

[Faisal Shourov]

Because Toriyama literally made his back story the same as Supermans

Goku is inspired for Sun Wukong (japanese for Sun Wukong is literally Son Goku). Goku is not a Superman clone, he's a tribute to the chinese monkey king

No, old Goku was based on the Journey to the West. Modern Dragonball Minus Gokus backstory has more in common with supermans than anything else.

Still doesn't make him a superman clone. Goku was not inspired by Superman, his alien backstory was added much later until he became an adult. Toriyama did not think of Superman when Goku was created. Most of all, Goku has zero similarity with Superman in terms of character.

[SansrivaaL]

Still doesn't make him a superman clone. Goku was not inspired by Superman, his alien backstory was added much later until he became an adult. Toriyama did not think of Superman when Goku was created. Most of all, Goku has zero similarity with Superman in terms of character.

More like Goku and Superman are the exact opposites, and people say they can become friends with how Goku is, that is simply not possible, Superman would see him as a threat rather than a naive guy.

[HeroR]

Still doesn't make him a superman clone. Goku was not inspired by Superman, his alien backstory was added much later until he became an adult. Toriyama did not think of Superman when Goku was created. Most of all, Goku has zero similarity with Superman in terms of character.

More like Goku and Superman are the exact opposites, and people say they can become friends with how Goku is, that is simply not possible, Superman would see him as a threat rather than a naive guy.

Superman is friends with people like Batman who has done more than his share of shady stuff, including finding ways of trying to kill him and the entire Justice League that sometimes end up in the enemy's hands.

Superman would probably be friends with Goku, although they will have disagreements like Superman wouldn't like how Goku is a carefree blood knight and will try to get him to mature, and Goku will probably be confused as to why Superman keeps putting up with his rouge gallery who does massive damaged and causes massive death if he doesn't enjoy fighting them. He then will probably give Superman the same advise Beeerus gave him about Freeza.

[SansrivaaL]

Still doesn't make him a superman clone. Goku was not inspired by Superman, his alien backstory was added much later until he became an adult. Toriyama did not think of Superman when Goku was created. Most of all, Goku has zero similarity with Superman in terms of character.

More like Goku and Superman are the exact opposites, and people say they can become friends with how Goku is, that is simply not possible, Superman would see him as a threat rather than a naive guy.

Superman is friends with people like Batman who has done more than his share of shady stuff, including finding ways of trying to kill him and the entire Justice League that sometimes end up in the enemy's hands.

Superman would probably be friends with Goku, although they will have disagreements like Superman wouldn't like how Goku is a carefree blood knight and will try to get him to mature, and Goku will probably be confused as to why Superman keeps putting up with his rouge gallery if he doesn't enjoy fighting them. He then will probably give Superman the same advise Beeerus gave him about Freeza.

I dont see that happening at all, Batman may be a jerk sometimes, and shady, but at the end of the night he's still doin it for justice, and he does not have the power to threat the entire universe, he's just smart, theres limits to what being smart can do for you.
Goku on the other hand has the power to wipe out planet after planet, if we go by power scaling, can destroy a galaxy if let loose. If Beerus the GoD that destroys for petty reasons see's Goku as a threat bigger than Zeno, Superman being the justice/righteous guy he is would see to it that Goku should go.

[HeroR]

I dont see that happening at all, Batman may be a jerk sometimes, and shady, but at the end of the night he's still doin it for justice, and he does not have the power to threat the entire universe, he's just smart, theres limits to what being smart can do for you.
Goku on the other hand has the power to wipe out planet after planet, if we go by power scaling, can destroy a galaxy if let loose. If Beerus the GoD that destroys for petty reasons see's Goku as a threat bigger than Zeno, Superman being the justice/righteous guy he is would see to it that Goku should go.

Goku may have the power to wipe universes, but he doesn't used it for anything besides training and fighting. Most of the time, he's chilling at home doing farm work. I also don't see how Beerus seeing Goku as a threat filters into Superman, since he has friends who are more powerful than Goku and have an even spotter record. Also, Beerus doesn't see Goku as a threat bigger than Zen'o. He just see him as a possible danger because of his relationship with Zen'o.

And Superman will see Goku go? How many times Lex Luther purposely or accidentally endanger the world or even the universe and Superman still keeps him around? Do you read Superman comics? And you don't know some of the crazy stuff Batman has done in the comic.

[SansrivaaL]

I dont see that happening at all, Batman may be a jerk sometimes, and shady, but at the end of the night he's still doin it for justice, and he does not have the power to threat the entire universe, he's just smart, theres limits to what being smart can do for you.
Goku on the other hand has the power to wipe out planet after planet, if we go by power scaling, can destroy a galaxy if let loose. If Beerus the GoD that destroys for petty reasons see's Goku as a threat bigger than Zeno, Superman being the justice/righteous guy he is would see to it that Goku should go.

Goku may have the power to wipe universes, but he doesn't used it for anything besides training and fighting. Most of the time, he's chilling at home doing farm work. I also don't see how Beerus seeing Goku as a threat filters into Superman, since he has friends who are more powerful than Goku and have an even spotter record. Also, Beerus doesn't see Goku as a threat bigger than Zen'o. He just see him as a possible danger because of his relationship with Zen'o.

And Superman will see Goku go? How many times Lex Luther purposely or accidentally endanger the world or even the universe and Superman still keeps him around? Do you read Superman comics? And you don't know some of the crazy stuff Batman has done in the comic.

And thats the point, Superman doesnt see it as we do, Why I used Beerus is because if a GoD, literally one that destroys since its his job, see's Goku being a threat, Superman with a huge sense of justice and responsibility would see to it that he goes, still dont get it? if you dont then you dont really need to force yourself.

Anyways I'm not gonna talk about this with you again and make this into a DB X Comic talk, you see things the way you do and I'll see things the way I do, you seem to cant get it into you that not everyone has to have the same views as you. Its not really cool forcing your opinions on someone.

[HeroR]

And thats the point, Superman doesnt see it as we do, Why I used Beerus is because if a GoD, literally one that destroys since its his job, see's Goku being a threat, Superman with a huge sense of justice and responsibility would see to it that he goes, still dont get it? if you dont then you dont really need to force yourself.

Anyways I'm not gonna talk about this with you again and make this into a DB X Comic talk, you see things the way you do and I'll see things the way I do, you seem to cant get it into you that not everyone has to have the same views as you. Its not really cool forcing your opinions on someone.

But Superman wouldn't see things the same way as Beerus, which is my point. Superman is a righteous person who believes in justice, but he's not going to kill or get rid of someone because sees them as a possible threat. Superman has dealt with people like Goku. Most of the time, he tries to guide them into doing the right thing and mentor them. He won't get rid of Goku unless he's purposely causing trouble.

Also, how I am 'forcing my opinions on someone'? I thought we were having a friendly debate. This is a forum after all, not an echo chamber.

[TheMikado]

Goku is inspired for Sun Wukong (japanese for Sun Wukong is literally Son Goku). Goku is not a Superman clone, he's a tribute to the chinese monkey king

No, old Goku was based on the Journey to the West. Modern Dragonball Minus Gokus backstory has more in common with supermans than anything else.

Still doesn't make him a superman clone. Goku was not inspired by Superman, his alien backstory was added much later until he became an adult. Toriyama did not think of Superman when Goku was created. Most of all, Goku has zero similarity with Superman in terms of character.

I literally said

Because Toriyama literally made his back story the same as Supermans

That's all. Goku and Superman are not similar characters. My reply was tongue-in-cheek and a criticism of the revised origin story presented decades after the character's original creation.
The real critique being that if you're going to expand a characters origins at least make it feel more original. Never said the characters were actually similar outside of the backstory.