DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Captain Space wrote:RandomGuy96 wrote:
13. According to the guidebooks, the newest movies were in the same timeline as GT.
Really?! The amount of mental gymnastics required to make that work are insane.
I think everything works out fine, if it was only BoG. Toriyama gave a cop out to why Goku would never need SSGod again afterall.
It's Resurrection [F], that makes things a bit more hard to work with.
It's only BoG that was placed with GT in the timeline. After FnF & Super though, they seem to treat GT as an alternative timeline, and they didn't even include it in the most recent timeline of the series.
And the fact that Gohan is shown without his "Potential Unleashed" facial expressions during the movie is also contradictory to the events that happened in the End of Z (and the GT Perfect Files state of Gohan keeping up with his training), where he does show the signs of being "Ultimate" (fully drawn lines in his eyes.)
Although, in the wiki they state that he was actually in the Potential Unleashed state during the movie and he was also a Super Saiyan (which is weird since he didn't turn Super Saiyan before he tried to stop Lord Beerus), something similar happened to GT, where he is actually shown as Ultimate Gohan and also turns Super Saiyan.
After looking up some information about GT a few years ago I got to the conclusion that it was like a movie, some events that happened in BoG can be connected to GT (Goku saying that Baby was the sexiest person he ever saw for the sake of the plot, without saying anything about Beerus since he couldn't feel his Godly Ki), but after RoF it's 100% clear that GT was left as an "Alternate Timeline/Universe."
I guess that it's about what you take as canon, personally, Toriyama's script and some battle scenes in the anime that could make sense are the ones I take as canon, for the rest, anything that Toei wants to produce (Movies, Side Stories, etc.), are simply some kind of filler, I have read many times something called "anime canon" which apparently takes the filler as something canon to the story, that's how different some opinions are. I honestly don't need to know that the events of some story seen in Dragon Ball are canon or not in order to enjoy it.
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:SS Gokhan (potara; Boo arc) vs. SS2 Vegetto (Boo arc)
- If Gokhan can actually keep the Old Kai Ritual powers after fusing and as a SSJ he wins, if he's not able to do that, Vegito wins.
Doctor. wrote:Bardock (TV Special) with access to Kaioken x20 vs Oozaru Vegeta
Raditz vs Saiyan arc Chaozu and Yajirobe
And the mother of all hypothetical battles: SSGSS Ultimate Gohan (assume they stack) vs a potara fusion of Beerus and Whis
- Bardock could defeat Oozaru Vegeta using the Kaioken x20 if he's able to use for some time, he also knows how to stop the transformation, and after that he destroys the Prince of all Saiyans.
- If Chaoz and Yajirobe manage to combine their techniques together they have a chance against Sanic.
- Both, the Ultimate state and the Potara where pretty OP for their time, but is always about
who uses it, if Beerus and Whis merge together into a tall Lord Beerus with his master clothes, cool hair and that weird lipstick, they would annihilate Gohan, both, in style and power.
