The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Doctor.]

Mr. Satan (Cell Games) vs. Spike Spiegel

Take away Spike's guns and he's dead. Give him his guns and Satan is dead.

[supercat]

1: Super Vegetto vs. SSJ4 Goku(GT)
2: Vegeta(Saiyan Saga) vs. Kewi
3: Nail,Vegeta(vs.Recoome),Gohan(vs.Recoome),Kuririn(vs.Recoome) vs. Guldo and Recoome
4: SSJ Gohan(Pre Z-Sword) vs. SSJ Gohan(FNF)
5: Kaioshin vs. Paikuhan(Otherworld Tournament)
6: Beerus and Golden Freeza vs. SSGSS Vegeta and SSGSS Goku
7: Android 16 vs. Imperfect Cell
8: Base Goku(FNF) and Base Vegeta(FNF) vs. SSG Goku(BOG)
9: Majin Vegeta,SSJ2 Goku,SSJ2 Gohan,Dabura,Kaioshin,Piccolo,Kuririn,Trunks and Goten vs. Bobbidi and Fat Buu(Pre Split)
10:Enraged SSJ2 Vegeta(Permanent) vs. SSJ3 Vegetto

-With a few sources indicating that the two are likely on par with one another, and without anything that really contradicts that notion, I'm inclined to believe that the two fighters are in fact parallel in strength.

-Cui along with his pal Dodoria are probably one of the worst fighters the franchise has to offer. With both fighters rocking power levels of 18,000, it's pretty darn likely that the frog-like alien would be subjected to a major beating. The vast majority of Frieza's lackeys came off as incompetent tools who seem to bully their way into victory.

-Barring cheap tactics like freezing time, Guldo gets one-shotted, and Nail beats Recoome down with moderate levels of difficulty. I personally feel that each Ginyu is in the neighborhood of 40,000 while Nail stands a notch above them at a whopping 42,000.

-Contrary to popular belief, I personally feel that FnF Gohan is as strong as he was during the time he was wielding the Z-Sword. There should be no reason why Gohan lost as much power as some people like to nonchalantly claim (without any evidence).

-Kaioshin's presence rendering Piccolo useless strongly implies that the former sits a few notches above Cell Jr. / Perfect Cell (against Goku), but is a tad bit weaker than MSSJ Gohan. That said, Paikuhan was able to trounce Cell and keep him down, so I'm going with him on this one.

-Beerus and Frieza crush the Saiyan duo without much difficulty. With the absence of stamina issues, and the right mentality, Frieza alone would bring either SSGSS down after a decent fight.

-This already happened in the original timeline, but I'm assuming you're asking how things would fare if the fight were to have continued. In addition to the fact that Android 16 seemed quite durable against Cell's attacks, he's not burdened with the shortcomings of limited stamina, so it's pretty plausible things would eventually roll in his favor.

-Well their base forms were heavily influenced by the SSG powers they apparently absorbed. Toss in the additional training from Whis and I could see the three staggering in a state of limbo.

-Between unlimited stamina and regeneration, there's really no way Buu would lose. We've already seen him survive the best attack Majin Vegeta had to dish out at the time. The Z-Fighters get massacred.

-According to Super, Vegeta forced Beerus to exert 10% of his power --something far beyond anything Buuhan could ever hope to muster. That said, while SSJ3 Vegetto is likely leagues below Beerus, and even Frieza for that matter, I doubt he would face defeat at the hands of his angry half.

[ahill1]

Super Saiyan Mr. Satan vs Master Roshi.

Lol; I have

Mr Satan 7
~SSJ 350

Master Roshi 60

Mr satan wins.

[nickzambuto]

Goku vs Vegeta.

[Kamiccolo9]

Goku vs Vegeta.

I think Goku's a bit stronger, enough to take this, but for the purposes of this post, I'm going to act like they are exactly equal.

Vegeta has demonstrated some insane durability in the past. The free-for-all on Earth where he would just not stay down, and his beating from Pure Buu are the clearest demonstrations of this. He also has a larger repertoire of techniques, although these really just seem to be the same three techniques done slightly different (a blast spamming attack, an energy ball, and a beam attack). And, while he hasn't demonstrated this in a while, Vegeta has, in the past, been capable of snapping and forcing a draw by blowing up the planet. While I doubt he'd resort to that at this point, I can see him cutting loose more easily than I can Goku.

Speaking of Goku, he's also shown some impressive endurance. The he managed to fight on against Piccolo with a hole in his chest (or shoulder, depending on what angle the picture is from), got his ass kicked by Vegeta and his own Kaio-Ken and managed to remain fighting for a while until he was literally crushed by Vegeta, and was able to survive against 50% Freeza, despite being twenty times weaker than him. He's got Instant Transmission, which I don't consider to be a particularly combat-viable technique, especially against someone aware of it, multiple iterations of the Kamehameha, and several techniques he's picked up from his friends, like the Taiyoken and Kienzan (which Vegeta can also do.)

I think this fight comes down to their respective weaknesses, mentioned in RF. Goku's more likely to take it easy and get himself killed, while Vegeta's more likely to take it to seriously and wear himself out. Personally, I think that Goku's is a greater detriment in a pitched fight, so, at equal levels, I give this to Vegeta.

[ahill1]

Kaioshin vs. Paikuhan(Otherworld Tournament)

This is East Kaioshin? East Kaioshin is way weaker than Piccolo(buu saga), since he's weaker than Yakon, so this is a one-shot for Paikuhan.

Pakuhan >= Goku SSJ(cell games) >>> Piccolo(buu saga) >>>>> Goku base(buu saga) ~ Yakon >>> East Kaioshin.

[dbzfan7]

Goku vs Vegeta.

Goku. Whis himself said he's always seems one step ahead. Goku also seems to be the smarter fighter of the two, while Vegeta is the colder one. Most of the time Goku is always stronger than Vegeta. It took Goku training with gods to eventually reach Vegeta's level, but after that he pretty much was always one step ahead. If it's a fight to the finish, I could see Vegeta taking it because Goku might be too soft and may just let his guard down for the equal in power Vegeta to pull a win. Basically like how SSJ2 Goku vs Majin Vegeta ended. If nothing holds either of them back, Goku will pretty much always come out on top. Going by the last movie, I think Goku was the stronger of the two anyways.

[Angelus]

Here's some!

Mystic Gohan (Z/Pre-BoG) VS Good/Mr. Buu (absorbed Post-ROSAT SSJ3 Gotenks, SSJ3 Goku, SSJ2 Majin Vegeta, Piccolo, Androids 17 and 18, Pikkon, Olibu, Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu) -- no candy beams, clothes beams, mind-reading, more absorbing, planet busting, paralysis, Tribeams/Kienzans, Instant Transmission, or Solar Flares

Super Buu VS Kid Buu, Pre-Split Fat Buu, Evil Skinny Gray Buu, and Good/Mr. Buu -- no candy beams or absorbing
*Given that you believe that Super Buu is more powerful than Kid Buu*

Eastern Supreme Kai VS ASSJ Future Trunks (post-1st day ROSAT) -- no paralysis

[ahill1]

Eastern Supreme Kai VS ASSJ Future Trunks (post-1st day ROSAT) -- no paralysis

East Kai is weaker than Yakon/base Goku(buu saga), which is weaker than Android 16, so this is a one-shot for Future Trunks.

[dbzfan7]

Here's some!

Mystic Gohan (Z/Pre-BoG) VS Good/Mr. Buu (absorbed Post-ROSAT SSJ3 Gotenks, SSJ3 Goku, SSJ2 Majin Vegeta, Piccolo, Androids 17 and 18, Paikuhan, Olibu, Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu) -- no candy beams, clothes beams, mind-reading, more absorbing, planet busting, paralysis, Tribeams/Kienzans, Instant Transmission, or Solar Flares

Super Buu VS Kid Buu, Pre-Split Fat Buu, Evil Skinny Gray Buu, and Good/Mr. Buu -- no candy beams or absorbing
*Given that you believe that Super Buu is more powerful than Kid Buu*

Eastern Supreme Kai VS ASSJ Future Trunks (post-1st day ROSAT) -- no paralysis

-Regular Logic: Only Gotenks is worthy anything among those absorptions. Everyone else doesn't really help. Bootenks who is just Super Boo, Gotenks, and Piccolo is stronger than that hypothetical Boo. Gohan has no problem since the base Mr. Boo is just under SSJ3 tier while only having one beyond normal SSJ3+ Tier character in him.
Neo Logic: Gohan charges Boo and runs into his belly. He's bounced back against some rocks and is knocked out cold.

-Super Boo is so much more powerful he has an easy time with all the other Boos.

-So long as there's no M on Trunks forehead, Kaioshin has this. Piccolo called him as someone in a different dimension, and Piccolo before could somewhat fight a Cell Jr. So he should be significantly higher than that at the lowest. ASSJ Trunks is weaker than the Trunks who fought the Cell Jrs and wasn't quite equal to it.

[ZombieVito]

Majin Yakon and Pui Pui VS ASSJ Future Trunks (post-1st day ROSAT)-- no light-eating or blowing up of planets

Trunks will one shot Pui Pui in a second.

Yakon is tricky, if he absorbs Trunks SSJ energy then he will be able to one shot base Trunks easily. It will only take Trunks one second to one shot Yakon as a SSJ though. It all depends who makes the first move.

2: SSJ3 Gotenks vs. SSJ2 Gogeta
3: MSSJ Goku,MSSJ Gohan,ASSJ Vegeta,ASSJ Trunks and Piccolo(all in the Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell
4: Pure Buu vs. Grey Buu
5: 10% Beerus vs. SSJ3 Vegetto
6: Rage Vegeta(Super) vs. U.Gohan(Buu Saga)
8: Majin Spopovich vs. Chi Chi
9: Tagoma,Sorbet and Shisami vs. Dodoria,Kewi and Zarbon
10:SSGSS Gogeta vs. Whis and Beerus
Will Whis need his time rewind ability to defeat Gogeta? or him and Beerus is enough

2.- Gotenks one shots.
3.- I assume full power Perfect Cell right? Cell still wins with medium difficulty.
4.- Pure Buu wins very easily.
5.- Vegetto one shots.
6.- Vegeta finger flicks.
8.- Spopovitch is a damn mystery. He has ki feats superior to BoZ Goku but got damaged by Videl. My gut tells me Chi-Chi would not be able to defeat him and eventually get tired enough for Spopovitch to win.
9.- Sorbet BP is a mystery but I don't think he is higher than 1,000. Team B wins thanks to Zarbon's transformation.
10.- Gogeta should be stronger than Whis but the double team will eventually win.

Super Saiyan Mr. Satan vs Master Roshi.

Mister Satan is the only character I have with a BP that contains 666 lol. 333 vs 180. Satan kills Roshi.

[ahill1]

Here's some!

Mystic Gohan (Z/Pre-BoG) VS Good/Mr. Buu (absorbed Post-ROSAT SSJ3 Gotenks, SSJ3 Goku, SSJ2 Majin Vegeta, Piccolo, Androids 17 and 18, Paikuhan, Olibu, Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu) -- no candy beams, clothes beams, mind-reading, more absorbing, planet busting, paralysis, Tribeams/Kienzans, Instant Transmission, or Solar Flares

Super Buu VS Kid Buu, Pre-Split Fat Buu, Evil Skinny Gray Buu, and Good/Mr. Buu -- no candy beams or absorbing
*Given that you believe that Super Buu is more powerful than Kid Buu*

Eastern Supreme Kai VS ASSJ Future Trunks (post-1st day ROSAT) -- no paralysis

-Regular Logic: Only Gotenks is worthy anything among those absorptions. Everyone else doesn't really help. Bootenks who is just Super Boo, Gotenks, and Piccolo is stronger than that hypothetical Boo. Gohan has no problem since the base Mr. Boo is just under SSJ3 tier while only having one beyond normal SSJ3+ Tier character in him.
Neo Logic: Gohan charges Boo and runs into his belly. He's bounced back against some rocks and is knocked out cold.

-Super Boo is so much more powerful he has an easy time with all the other Boos.

-So long as there's no M on Trunks forehead, Kaioshin has this. Piccolo called him as someone in a different dimension, and Piccolo before could somewhat fight a Cell Jr. So he should be significantly higher than that at the lowest. ASSJ Trunks is weaker than the Trunks who fought the Cell Jrs and wasn't quite equal to it.

Ehhhh... Piccolo(buu saga) is stronger than East Kaioshin; The scene of the tournament is not related to power, since Piccolo stated that Kaioshin is a different order of being.

[dbzfan7]

Here's some!

Mystic Gohan (Z/Pre-BoG) VS Good/Mr. Buu (absorbed Post-ROSAT SSJ3 Gotenks, SSJ3 Goku, SSJ2 Majin Vegeta, Piccolo, Androids 17 and 18, Paikuhan, Olibu, Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu) -- no candy beams, clothes beams, mind-reading, more absorbing, planet busting, paralysis, Tribeams/Kienzans, Instant Transmission, or Solar Flares

Super Buu VS Kid Buu, Pre-Split Fat Buu, Evil Skinny Gray Buu, and Good/Mr. Buu -- no candy beams or absorbing
*Given that you believe that Super Buu is more powerful than Kid Buu*

Eastern Supreme Kai VS ASSJ Future Trunks (post-1st day ROSAT) -- no paralysis

-Regular Logic: Only Gotenks is worthy anything among those absorptions. Everyone else doesn't really help. Bootenks who is just Super Boo, Gotenks, and Piccolo is stronger than that hypothetical Boo. Gohan has no problem since the base Mr. Boo is just under SSJ3 tier while only having one beyond normal SSJ3+ Tier character in him.
Neo Logic: Gohan charges Boo and runs into his belly. He's bounced back against some rocks and is knocked out cold.

-Super Boo is so much more powerful he has an easy time with all the other Boos.

-So long as there's no M on Trunks forehead, Kaioshin has this. Piccolo called him as someone in a different dimension, and Piccolo before could somewhat fight a Cell Jr. So he should be significantly higher than that at the lowest. ASSJ Trunks is weaker than the Trunks who fought the Cell Jrs and wasn't quite equal to it.

Ehhhh... Piccolo(buu saga) is stronger than East Kaioshin; The scene of the tournament is not related to power, since Piccolo stated that Kaioshin is a different order of being.

Tis but another Vizism.

Chapter: 439 (DBZ 245), P12.3-4
Context: after Piccolo and Kaioshin's match
Goku: “That much, Piccolo?...”
Piccolo: “Yeah…Our dimensions…are too different…”
Kuririn: “Yo-you’re kidding, right? Stop joking around! I-I’ve got to fight him next”
Note: Piccolo’s line is a pretty standard way of saying that someone is stronger than you. You can find a lot of instances of people being described as in “a different dimension” throughout these quotes, like Tenshinhan talking about Super Saiyan Goku, or the narrator describing final form Freeza. In Viz the line is made vaguer (“He is a different order of being”), which makes it sound like Piccolo could just be talking about how Kaioshin is a super-god, rather than about his strength per-say. Anyway, though Piccolo's pretty much flat-out saying Kaioshin's way stronger than him, you could still argue that he's mistaken or lying...I guess.

[ahill1]

I prefer the interpretation given by VIZ - It makes much more sense considering the entire context.

[Captain Space]

Super Saiyan Mr. Satan vs Master Roshi.

Mr. Satan: Probably between 5 and 10?

Roshi: 139

Given that Freeza's 50% was at least equal with if not greater than Goku's x20, and SSJ Goku was equal with 100% Freeza (before Freeza was tired), SSJ makes you at least 40 times stronger...

Absolute minimum for SSJ Mr. Satan: 200; likely much higher (as x40 is the absolute minimum for SSJ, 5 is the absolute minimum for Mr. Satan's power, and let's not get into how much higher he'd be if SSJ is an additive boost which would have to be in the millions...).

So, SSJ Mr. Satan wins easily, unless Roshi...I dunno, hypnotises him to sleep or something.

Mr. Satan (Cell Games) vs. Spike Spiegel

Probably Spike...even just based on his fight in episode 1.

Here's some!

Mystic Gohan (Z/Pre-BoG) VS Good/Mr. Buu (absorbed Post-ROSAT SSJ3 Gotenks, SSJ3 Goku, SSJ2 Majin Vegeta, Piccolo, Androids 17 and 18, Paikuhan, Olibu, Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu) -- no candy beams, clothes beams, mind-reading, more absorbing, planet busting, paralysis, Tribeams/Kienzans, Instant Transmission, or Solar Flares

Super Buu VS Kid Buu, Pre-Split Fat Buu, Evil Skinny Gray Buu, and Good/Mr. Buu -- no candy beams or absorbing
*Given that you believe that Super Buu is more powerful than Kid Buu*

Eastern Supreme Kai VS ASSJ Future Trunks (post-1st day ROSAT) -- no paralysis

I'm of the opinion SSJ3 Gotenks isn't much weaker than Gohan--add in Goku, Buu and Vegeta and Gohan's at a disadvantage here. I guess if he can last until the SSJ3's power-down inside Buu, he can win, though...

Super Buu can't keep that many Buu's down to be honest, he'll get overwhelmed eventually.

Kaioshin should win pretty easily, but knowing his track record he'll probably stub his toe, fall over and knock himself out before the fight even starts.

[nickzambuto]

Mystic Yamcha vs Majin Chiaotzu

[Lord Beerus]

Mystic Yamcha vs Majin Chiaotzu

Yamcha crushes Chiaotzu. I reckon the potential that would be brought out of Yamcha would be far greater than the boost in power becoming a Majin would provide for Chiaotzu.

[LightBing]

Mystic Yamcha vs Majin Chiaotzu

Yamcha easily dispatches Chiaotzu, he might not even need Mystic. When Chiaotzu got left behind by Tenshinhan, before the fight with the Androids, I took it to mean he never passed the Saiyan Saga tier. There's already a huge gap between him and Yamcha, and even if it's their Boo saga versions, where Yamcha gave up fighing and Chiaotzu probably kept training with Tenshinhan, it's still not enough.

[DBZAOTA482]

8.- Spopovitch is a damn mystery. He has ki feats superior to BoZ Goku but got damaged by Videl. My gut tells me Chi-Chi would not be able to defeat him and eventually get tired enough for Spopovitch to win.

Well, your gut doesn't know what it's talking about. Like you said Videl did damage to him so Chi-Chi should outright slaughter him instantly unless you think Chi-Chi = Videl (and that's not gonna happen not in a million years).

Mystic Yamcha vs Majin Chiaotzu

Yamcha destroys. Hell, give Chiaotzu the Mystic power-up and make Yamcha normal. the outcome would be the same.

Probably Spike...even just based on his fight in episode 1.

How would he fare against Videl?

[Captain Space]

Probably Spike...even just based on his fight in episode 1.

How would he fare against Videl?

He'd...probably win? The fight I was talking about involves an enemy who's taken a drug that gives him a sort of hyper-awareness, allowing him to do things like dodge gunfire. Spike wins not by being supersonic or anything, but by his movements being too (fast and) unpredictable for the guy to keep up with (he can only 'focus' in one direction at once is the impression I got). (If I got any details about this wrong, it's been a long time since I saw that episode.)

Anyway, the point is, he pretty easily handled a guy who would fare much better against getting shot at than Mr. Satan or Videl would. (I dunno, maybe Videl could hover over his head and drop things on him until she got lucky or something.)