Unpopular DB opinions

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Not sure how unpopular this is, but I found the JSAT Special funnier than Battle of Gods. I don't know why, but the humour felt a lot more natural in the former.

[RandomGuy96]

I thought he just Death Beamed Dende?

He did... but it didn't pierce him, it exploded. It's the same thing he used on Cargo, which doesn't appear to be a Death Beam. The Death Beam pierces.

[Ninja Murasaki]

No, it really doesn't.

Once again, you fail to provide any reason why.

He also said that Yamcha cheated on Bulma.

Second hand information that was contradicted.

And that wasn't related to a woman phobia, but rather his exact reaction in a certain situation.

Doesn't them any less legit.

Fan translations are worthless.

Actually they're typically more accurate then licensed translation which tend to either censor or change dialogue.

No, just stating what happened. Him looking like a sissy there is played for laughs.

Other characters had goofy moments, like that and you don't insult them.

Actually, it was far better, because he fairly fought Goku to a draw when both of them were fresh (if anything, Yajirobe had the handicap), whereas Yamcha could only achieve the same result with a starving and weakened Goku.

Except, Yamcha was equal to Goku until he got hungry, at which point he had the advantage until the fight was interrupted.

Who? The Rabbit Gang and some Budokai fodder? I don't really count those as fights, any more than I count Super Buu killing Yamcha as a fight.

You forgot Chi-Chi, speaking which you count Chi-Chi beating a nameless creature, yet Yamcha doing the same doesn't count for you.

When did Yamcha ever use trickery? And no, stumbling upon someone when they're starving isn't trickery.

Citation needed.

Chiaotzu could hold down 23rd Budokai Goku with his powers.

Chiaotzu's couldn't even affect anyone of worth by Z.

Being more powerful than Chiaotzu (which btw, he isn't confirmed to be by the Buu Saga, to my knowledge) doesn't mean he could actually beat him.

No one knew about the blood sucking either. And Yamcha wouldn't have died to the Saibaman if he wasn't A. arrogant as hell B. so weak and/or unskilled that
his Kamehameha didn't take the Saibaman down. Krillin blew three of them to pieces with generic ki blasts right after this.

Mud slinging again.

Yamcha wasn't being that arrogant, the foe was half dead and lying in a crater. As for being weak, Krillin even says that the self destruct would've killed him, and thanked Yamcha for going ahead.

Tenshinhan's saibaman was playing around, which was why Vegeta killed it.

Krillin was pissed, strengthened by rage, he unleashed his fury to kill them with a named attack, not a generic ki blast.

He's got two assists, one victory, and zero losses. By contrast, Yamcha has one victory, one assist, two draws, and a shit ton of losses.

Yamcha has at least three victories, and two assists

Lets be honest, most characters in the series just job consecutively after their debut arc.

Finally fans who bother other fans for liking characters they don't aren't needed in fandoms. Your intense hostility to fans who like Yamcha is totally unwarranted.

[Kid Buu]

I consider the first Goku match a draw, they both had something that fucked them over (Bulma for Yamcha, Hunger for Goku). Nappa said the Saibaman fight was a draw, and he also has an inconclusive match with Tambourine in filler.

I give him credit for beating Oozaru Goku and Invisible Man, as well as Recoome in filler. People like to dismiss his victories because of assists, but no one seems to discredit Goku for having Piccolo help him against Freeza, or Gohan having help from Goku's IT against Cell.

The rest are all losses, but winning isn't everything. Better to lose in a good fight than to be some Gary Stu who just effortlessly beats the foes in one hit. I actually enjoyed his fight with Kami a lot. The Tenshinhan fight is just memorable for the song, fight is actually really overrated in my opinion.

[RandomGuy96]

Once again, you fail to provide any reason why.

I don't need to. You need to provide a reason why it makes it completely impossible.

Second hand information that was contradicted.

Information from the author that was never contradicted.

Doesn't them any less legit.

Actually, yeah, it really does. Still nervous around women =/= will react the exact same way in any situation.

Actually they're typically more accurate then licensed translation which tend to either censor or change dialogue.

Yeah, sure. I'm just not going to take anything from them seriously, especially if you're using the translations I think that you are.

Other characters had goofy moments, like that and you don't insult them.

I was simply recollecting what happened in the battle.

Except, Yamcha was equal to Goku until he got hungry, at which point he had the advantage until the fight was interrupted.

He drew a weakened Goku, did he not?

You forgot Chi-Chi, speaking which you count Chi-Chi beating a nameless creature, yet Yamcha doing the same doesn't count for you.

I don't really count Chi Chi because she's just an unpowered little girl by this point.

It's a matter of importance. Yamcha beating someone at the Budokai isn't impressive because everyone can do that. Killing a dinosaur is super impressive by that point because of how weak the heroes are in comparison.

Citation needed.

Show me one instance where he used trickery to win, and where I didn't count it for that reason.

Chiaotzu's couldn't even affect anyone of worth by Z.

He couldn't effect Nappa because Nappa was over six times stronger than him, and he actually seemed surprised it didn't work. He could effect 23rd Budokai Goku, who was stronger than Yamcha, while he was much, much weaker than he was at the BoZ.

Mud slinging again.

Yamcha wasn't being that arrogant, the foe was half dead and lying in a crater

He just barley beat one and said he could take all four at once. Then that one killed him because he was arrogant.

As for being weak, Krillin even says that the self destruct would've killed him, and thanked Yamcha for going ahead.

Doesn't excuse the pathetically low offensive power of his Kamehameha.

Tenshinhan's saibaman was playing around, which was why Vegeta killed it.

Playing around? I don't see that in the Strength Checker, just that Vegeta was pissed that the Saibaman was so weak compared to Ten, which shocked Nappa.

Krillin was pissed, strengthened by rage, he unleashed his fury to kill them with a named attack, not a generic ki blast.

Yeah, bullshit. Krillin doesn't get rage boosts.

I believe it only gets named in the video games, right? The video games name everything. Even if it named, it's still just a bunch of regular energy blasts, and each of them have waaaaay more destructive power than Yamcha's Kamehameha. That makes Yamcha's Kamehameha pretty lame.

Yamcha has at least three victories, and two assists

If Yamcha beating Chi Chi and the rabbit gang members counts as a victory, so does Krillin beating Pintar.

Lets be honest, most characters in the series just job consecutively after their debut arc.

Yet most have better records than Yamcha, or at least keep their dignity.

Finally fans who bother other fans for liking characters they don't aren't needed in fandoms. Your intense hostility to fans who like Yamcha is totally unwarranted.

I don't give a shit if you like Yamcha. I do, however, care if you try to disregard what the author says, make shit up (Krillin being strengthened by rage), or outright lie ("Toriyama directly contradicted Yamcha being a cheater") to defend him.

I consider the first Goku match a draw, they both had something that fucked them over (Bulma for Yamcha, Hunger for Goku). Nappa said the Saibaman fight was a draw, and he also has an inconclusive match with Tambourine in filler.

Let's not count that filler fight. It's almost as silly as his fight with Olibu, and if anything hurts Yamcha's cause by making sure the bones Toei throws him that actually make a bit of sense can't be taken seriously.

[Kid Buu]

What's wrong with his fight with Tambourine in filler?

[RandomGuy96]

What's wrong with his fight with Tambourine in filler?

Tambourine curbstomped the stronger Krillin yet didn't immediately murder Yamcha. Yamcha with a broken leg.

[Kid Buu]

What's wrong with his fight with Tambourine in filler?

Tambourine curbstomped the stronger Krillin yet didn't immediately murder Yamcha. Yamcha with a broken leg.

That could easily be chalked up to toying around. Tambourine was winning, he only fled because Piccolo Daimao made him.

[RandomGuy96]

What's wrong with his fight with Tambourine in filler?

Tambourine curbstomped the stronger Krillin yet didn't immediately murder Yamcha. Yamcha with a broken leg.

That could easily be chalked up to toying around. Tambourine was winning, he only fled because Piccolo Daimao made him.

Then the fight doesn't mean anything, so why count it anyway? The fight still makes Yamcha with a broken leg look more formidable than Krillin, which is another way one could dismiss the bones Toei throws to him. Like when people say "Come on guys, we should at least count his fight with Recoome", and someone responds "Oh, so I guess Yamcha is stronger than Super Perfect Cell too? lol", and then the people say "Okay, yeah, let's not count it ...(sigh)".

[Kid Buu]

Eh, he didn't have anything else in the Piccolo Daimao arc so I just added that.

Edit: I forgot about the Buu arc filler actually.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

What's wrong with his fight with Tambourine in filler?

Tambourine curbstomped the stronger Krillin yet didn't immediately murder Yamcha. Yamcha with a broken leg.

Yamcha's leg healing so fast was already bullshit anyway.

[TheGmGoken]

Not sure how unpopular this is, but I found the JSAT Special funnier than Battle of Gods. I don't know why, but the humour felt a lot more natural in the former.

I agree. JSat> BoG. In humor andd....plot

[DBZAOTA482]

What's wrong with his fight with Tambourine in filler?

Tambourine curbstomped the stronger Krillin yet didn't immediately murder Yamcha. Yamcha with a broken leg.

Hey, don't be doubting the Filler King.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I really don't want to get into this again, but I have to touch on this one - the whole notion that Yamcha's 'not good with girls' personality makes him more likely to cheat. Honestly, I almost find that vaguely insulting in a way. I myself never got a girlfriend until I was out of high school, and for years had issues getting up the guts to tell girls when I liked them, so I qualify as 'not good with girls' too I would think - though thankfully it wasn't as bad as Yamcha had it. At any rate, now that I do have a girlfriend, I would absolutely never cheat on her, even if the goddess Aphrodite herself appeared in full, naked glory and threw herself at me. So the whole situation that 'it actually makes him MORE likely to cheat' is just as hypothetical as anything else brought up about how he wouldn't cheat - it still doesn't discredit a single thing that actually seems to hint at his cheating being unlikely.

And no offense Random, but your cracking jokes about Yamcha in the middle of your points just makes it come off like you just like to hate on him rather than actually disliking the guy, or you only like characters that are 'so badass and coolz' or something. I could be misinterpreting it, but that's how it ends up coming off.

So I guess my new unpopular opinion I'm going to drop here is that I'm seriously beginning to wonder if there's not something severely wrong when a character like Vegeta is loved by the masses, but a poor guy like Yamcha gets laughed off by almost everyone. Is there seriously no love for the underdogs anymore?

[Kamiccolo9]

So I guess my new unpopular opinion I'm going to drop here is that I'm seriously beginning to wonder if there's not something severely wrong when a character like Vegeta is loved by the masses, but a poor guy like Yamcha gets laughed off by almost everyone. Is there seriously no love for the underdogs anymore?

Well, personally, I'm fine with underdogs. Krillin is my second favorite character. I just find Yamcha boring, and honestly, the cheating thing makes him a bit more interesting to me. I don't see it as a defamation of character, only an example of a good person doing a bad thing. It happens. It's perfectly normal. People can make mistakes, especially when they are acting "out of character."

[MediaFanGirl93]

One unpoplar opinion I have is that I don't think Bulma is the best DBZ female, and that Android 18 takes the cake for that.

Another one I have is that although I don't know if Yamcha cheated on Bulma, is that Bulma was just as bad in the relationship (and it was the worst relationship of the show) because she flirted with other men, but acted as though Yamcha was the devil if a woman even looked at him.

[Kamiccolo9]

One unpoplar opinion I have is that I don't think Bulma is the best DBZ female, and that Android 18 takes the cake for that.

Another one I have is that although I don't know if Yamcha cheated on Bulma, is that Bulma was just as bad in the relationship (and it was the worst relationship of the show) because she flirted with other men, but acted as though Yamcha was the devil if a woman even looked at him.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone here actually defend Bulma.

[TheGmGoken]

Don't know if unpopular but BoG had a boring Ost save a few bgms. Everything sounded the same

[Kid Buu]

Yamcha actually champions himself in the anime version of the Cell arc. When #18 runs away from Krillin on the lookout, Yamcha tells Killin that its a sign she likes him, and says he knows because he is most experienced with woman.

[TheGmGoken]

Yamcha actually champions himself in the anime version of the Cell arc. When #18 runs away from Krillin on the lookout, Yamcha tells Killin that its a sign she likes him, and says he knows because he is most experienced with woman.

Doesn't Yamcha have a girlfriend in Cell Arc?