The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[h0kuten]

Perfect Cell Initial vs Trunks SSJG2 (1rst RoSaT Trip)

Semi-Perfect Cell vs Vegeta Ssj (1rst RoSaT Trip)

Kid Boo vs Oob (Enraged)

Cui vs Pui Pui

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Perfect Cell Initial vs Trunks SSJG2 (1rst RoSaT Trip)

Semi-Perfect Cell vs Vegeta Ssj (1rst RoSaT Trip)

Kid Boo vs Oob (Enraged)

Cui vs Pui Pui

- Probably around the same level.
- Vegeta is slightly stronger in my opinion.
- They're equals, Chibi Boo wins by regeneration, infinite stamina, and having more control over his power.
- Pocus is close to Android #18 by my arbitrary scaling. He finger flicks.

[supercat]

Raging SSJ2 Vegeta (Super) runs a gauntlet against the GT universe. How far does he go?

Conditions:
- His rage boost is permanent
- He gets to heal himself after defeat every opponent

I personally believe forcing Beerus to exert 10% of his power is a milestone that only SSJ4-tier fighters could ever hope to reach. Anyone under that realm of power (Ledgic, Mutchy, Luud, Sigma Force, Rild, Majuub, and all of Baby's incarnations) would be utterly humiliated by the angry prince.

SS4 Gogeta with rage boost vs Potara of Beerus and Whis
SSGSS Vegetto vs GT SS4 Vegetto
Final Form Freeza (F) vs Rageta

Whis alone could likely annihilate SSJ4 Gogeta with little to no difficulty, so this is simply a one-sided stomp in Beerus and Whis' favor. Gogeta's inability to finish off Omega Sheron, despite the usage of his Big Bang Kamehameha is a great indicator that he isn't the insurmountable force that some fans claim he is.

SSGSS is the superior transformation of the two, so this would be a rather straightforward victory for the blue-haired Vegetto. Prior to his SSG ritual, Goku's base form fell short of Frieza, and his SSJ3 (max power) was a trivial fodder against Beerus. Fast forward to the tyrant's revival and the destroyer suddenly considers the Saiyan duo a potential threat.

Enraged Vegeta is at best only a few notches higher than SSJ Vegetto while Frieza on the other hand would effortlessly obliterate the latter in a matter of seconds. Dial it down to the tyrant's hypothetical third form and we'll actually have a decent match.

[Captain Space]

Perfect Cell Initial vs Trunks SSJG2 (1rst RoSaT Trip)

Semi-Perfect Cell vs Vegeta Ssj (1rst RoSaT Trip)

Kid Boo vs Oob (Enraged)

Cui vs Pui Pui

I don't think Trunks' SSJG2 was even as strong as Vegeta's (he only thought he'd surpassed his father due to grade 3), so Cell should win even more effortlessly than he did against Vegeta (Trunks also doesn't have anything comparable to the Final Flash, and even if he did he probably doesn't have the kind of mindset to challenge Cell to tank it).

Cell seemed confident when Vegeta started powering up; it was only midway through the grade 2 transformation that Cell started becoming concerned, evidently that being the moment Vegeta's ki eclipsed his own. So I'd say Cell is the stronger here.

Either Buu is vastly stronger, or Uub is equal to him but doesn't really know how to use said power; either way, Buu wins.

I say "elite alien warrior + Majin power-up" trumps "elite alien warrior", so Pui Pui.

[LightBing]

Base Vegetto (manga) vs SSJ3 Goku (Boo Saga)

Potara Zarbon + Dodoria vs Kuririn (Android Saga)

Chiaotzu (23rd Tenkaichi Budokai) vs Chi-Chi (23rd Tenkaichi Budokai)

[Captain Space]

Base Vegetto (manga) vs SSJ3 Goku (Boo Saga)

Potara Zarbon + Dodoria vs Kuririn (Android Saga)

Chiaotzu (23rd Tenkaichi Budokai) vs Chi-Chi (23rd Tenkaichi Budokai)

As I said when this first one was asked previously (I was only taking the manga into account anyway):

9: Base Vegetto(Buu Saga) vs. SSJ3 Goku(Buu Saga)

9. Old Kai was of the opinion that a fusion of Goku and Gohan in base (while still being able to use SSJ) would be able to beat Buutenks. Vegetto (minus the difference between Gohan and Vegeta, plus the rival boost thing) should be vaguely comparable. So I guess Vegetto?

Hesitantly gonna say Krillin.

My guess would be Chi-Chi based on power but Chaozu's psychic abilities aren't something she's encountered before so maybe that'd give her trouble?

[LightBing]

Didn't saw it was recently posted, sorry about that. Lately people have been putting too many match ups in a single post, since I don't want write so much and also don't want to give "character X kills character Y" type answers. I just skip them.

[h0kuten]

Super Vegetto (Db Super) vs Raging Vegeta Ssj2 (Db Super)

Beerus 10% vs Super Vegetto (Db Super) + Raging Vegeta Ssj2 (Db Super)

Beerus 1% vs Goku Ssj3 (Db Super)

[Captain Space]

Entirely fair enough; don't worry about accidentally posting repeat matches, nobody's mandated to read every single post, especially in such a fast-moving thread.

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Before I go to bed, here's one:

Base Goku (EoZ) vs. Final Form Freeza (Namek arc)--power levels equalized, no further transformations (and indeed no other means of raising one's power beyond their already-equal levels, like Kaioken or Freeza's 100%). Between martial arts skill, weird alien biology, unique techniques and the like, who wins?

[Lord Beerus]

Base Vegetto (manga) vs SSJ3 Goku (Boo Saga)

Potara Zarbon + Dodoria vs Kuririn (Android Saga)

Chiaotzu (23rd Tenkaichi Budokai) vs Chi-Chi (23rd Tenkaichi Budokai)

- Base Vegetto one shots
- Krillin loses
- Chi-Chi is stronger but I reckon that Chiaotzu's physic abilities will give him the decisive advantage

Base Goku (EoZ) vs. Final Form Freeza (Namek arc)--power levels equalized, no further transformations (and indeed no other means of raising one's power beyond their already-equal levels, like Kaioken or Freeza's 100%). Between martial arts skill, weird alien biology, unique techniques and the like, who wins?

Hmm... My guts tell me that Goku may edge this out pure based on his martial arts skill. But my head is telling me Freeza would win because of his broken biology. I reckon if Freeza doesn't fuck around, he'll win in the end.

Super Vegetto (Db Super) vs Raging Vegeta Ssj2 (Db Super)

Beerus 10% vs Super Vegetto (Db Super) + Raging Vegeta Ssj2 (Db Super)

Beerus 1% vs Goku Ssj3 (Db Super)

- SSJ Vegetto gets stomped SSJ2 Vegeta. I can't believe it's gotten to that stage, but it is what it is.
- Vegetto is such a non factor at this stage that it really makes no difference. Beerus one shots the both of them.
- This fight has already happened twice. It's the same result. Beerus finger flicks.

[DBZAOTA482]

Perfect Cell Initial vs Trunks SSJG2 (1rst RoSaT Trip)

Semi-Perfect Cell vs Vegeta Ssj (1rst RoSaT Trip)

Kid Boo vs Oob (Enraged)

Cui vs Pui Pui

-Cell murderstomps
-Cell with immense difficulty
-Oob gets slaughtered
-Pui-Pui

Base Vegetto (manga) vs SSJ3 Goku (Boo Saga)

Potara Zarbon + Dodoria vs Kuririn (Android Saga)

Chiaotzu (23rd Tenkaichi Budokai) vs Chi-Chi (23rd Tenkaichi Budokai)

-Vegetto...?
-Zadoria stomps
-Chi-Chi mops the floor with mine boy. Chiaotzu barely survived a suppressed normal ki blast from Tao while Chi-Chi took a ki-infused shockwave punch (which was enough to catch Piccolo's attention) from Goku and was barely hurt.

[h0kuten]

Odin Force Thor (Warrior's Madness) vs Super Perfect Cell

Odin (Destroyer Armor + Odin Sword) vs Gotenks Ssj3 Post-ROST

Beerus Fully Powered vs Galactus Fully Powered

Superboy Prime vs Super Saiyan Goku (Namek Saga)

Key-Points to remember:

a) Odin Force Thor can tank attacks that K.O a normal Thor, so planetary attacks. Cell is stated as a Solar Buster.
b) Odin is a casual Galaxy Buster. However, Gotenks Ssj3 Post-ROST is infinitely stronger than Perfect Cell, the Solar Buster.
c) Beerus is stated to be a Universal Buster. Galactus has had trouble with Odin, the casual Galaxy Buster.

[Kamiccolo9]

Odin Force Thor (Warrior's Madness) vs Super Perfect Cell

Odin (Destroyer Armor + Odin Sword) vs Gotenks Ssj3 Post-ROST

Beerus Fully Powered vs Galactus Fully Powered

Superboy Prime vs Super Saiyan Goku (Namek Saga)

Key-Points to remember:

a) Odin Force Thor can tank attacks that K.O a normal Thor, so planetary attacks. Cell is stated as a Solar Buster.
b) Odin is a casual Galaxy Buster. However, Gotenks Ssj3 Post-ROST is infinitely stronger than Perfect Cell, the Solar Buster.
c) Beerus is stated to be a Universal Buster. Galactus has had trouble with Odin, the casual Galaxy Buster.

I'm going to humor you. Don't bother responding, because you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The Odinforce endows its wielder with vast matter and energy manipulation, that is capable of being used for essentially any purpose. Odin has used it to turn people into gods, rip out, merge, and separate souls, bring people back to life, wipe people from existence, destroy galaxies, travel through time, and basically anything else you can think of. For all intents and purposes, the Odinforce is an almost unlimited source of magical energy. Odin has been directly compared to Dormamu in terms of power, and Dormammu has demonstrated the capability to pose a challenge to Eternity, who is literally the sum of everything in the universe.
In the grand scheme of things, Odin is near the bottom of the pyramid if cosmic Marvel. Regardless, the Odinforce makes him into an extremely powerful matter and energy manipulator with control over the metaphysical sufficient to literally manipulate souls.

When you start discussing the upper level cosmic entities in Marvel, "power levels" no longer apply. Everybody is functionally omnipotent, limited only by the "tier" they are in. These are beings whose only limits are those imposed on them by themselves. Galactus is an equal to Eternity, Infinity, Death, and Oblivion, and is equal in power to all of them. It's been suggested that a fully powered Galactus is the most powerful being in the 616 Universe, although that's never been put to the test.

When Galactus encountered Jonathan Richards, also known as Hyperstorm, a being who wielded unlimited energy, he didn't bother to fight him. He just ate him. Galactus has defeated Mephisto in his own realm, where Mephisto is functionally omnipotent. He is one with the Ultimate Nullifier, which is capable of destroying all of reality. In the Black Celestial Arc, Galactus ate entire universes. At the end of Annihilation, he, while starved of all except the bare minimum that he could live on, had a mad fit that resulted in multiple star systems being destroyed, and this was the weakest that Galactus has ever been. He's a reality warper, and a vastly powerful telepath.

The fighters you are putting up against these guys aren't even ants compared to them. They're not even worth noticing. Even if they were to resort to a fistfight for some reason, both the Odinforce and the Power Cosmic are capable of bestowing essentially unlimited physical attributes.

More realistically, Thor, Odin, or Galactus would just briefly think the DB fighters to oblivion.

All in all, this is what Comic Vine would refer to as a "Spite post." A total mismatch that is due to the poster being unaware or uncaring of the side he's not a fan of.

[LightBing]

Base Goku (EoZ) vs. Final Form Freeza (Namek arc)--power levels equalized, no further transformations (and indeed no other means of raising one's power beyond their already-equal levels, like Kaioken or Freeza's 100%). Between martial arts skill, weird alien biology, unique techniques and the like, who wins?

This might have different answers depending on the information each one of them has on the other. Freeza is actually a brilliant fighter, he show it during his bout with non Super Saiyan Goku. Later he panicked and got overwhelmed by anger. I'm gonna assume this is their first encounter. In terms of durability Freeza is better than Goku by far, which might work against him since he might allowed himself to tank some attacks to prove his superiority. Both have excellent techniques but I'm gonna give the edge to Goku, he would use them better and more efficiently than Freeza.

Goku wins mildly injured. The fight would start with both of them evaluating each other, Freeza would start getting arrogant. Goku would gain the upper hand, also because Freeza can't feel Ki and injure Freeza. Who would start getting angry, we would utilize high impacts attacks and chase the Saiyan. Goku would avoid the bulk of the attacks but take some worrying damage. We would then decide to finish the match, since if he took a serious attack from Freeza it might be his end. He would try to himself open/or gain time to prepare a heavy hitting Kamehameha. Freeza would survive but unable to continue the fight, Goku would ask him to change his ways so they can fight again!

[h0kuten]

Odin Force Thor (Warrior's Madness) vs Super Perfect Cell

Odin (Destroyer Armor + Odin Sword) vs Gotenks Ssj3 Post-ROST

Beerus Fully Powered vs Galactus Fully Powered

Superboy Prime vs Super Saiyan Goku (Namek Saga)

Key-Points to remember:

a) Odin Force Thor can tank attacks that K.O a normal Thor, so planetary attacks. Cell is stated as a Solar Buster.
b) Odin is a casual Galaxy Buster. However, Gotenks Ssj3 Post-ROST is infinitely stronger than Perfect Cell, the Solar Buster.
c) Beerus is stated to be a Universal Buster. Galactus has had trouble with Odin, the casual Galaxy Buster.

I'm going to humor you. Don't bother responding, because you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The Odinforce endows its wielder with vast matter and energy manipulation, that is capable of being used for essentially any purpose. Odin has used it to turn people into gods, rip out, merge, and separate souls, bring people back to life, wipe people from existence, destroy galaxies, travel through time, and basically anything else you can think of. For all intents and purposes, the Odinforce is an almost unlimited source of magical energy. Odin has been directly compared to Dormamu in terms of power, and Dormammu has demonstrated the capability to pose a challenge to Eternity, who is literally the sum of everything in the universe.
In the grand scheme of things, Odin is near the bottom of the pyramid if cosmic Marvel. Regardless, the Odinforce makes him into an extremely powerful matter and energy manipulator with control over the metaphysical sufficient to literally manipulate souls.

When you start discussing the upper level cosmic entities in Marvel, "power levels" no longer apply. Everybody is functionally omnipotent, limited only by the "tier" they are in. These are beings whose only limits are those imposed on them by themselves. Galactus is an equal to Eternity, Infinity, Death, and Oblivion, and is equal in power to all of them. It's been suggested that a fully powered Galactus is the most powerful being in the 616 Universe, although that's never been put to the test.

When Galactus encountered Jonathan Richards, also known as Hyperstorm, a being who wielded unlimited energy, he didn't bother to fight him. He just ate him. Galactus has defeated Mephisto in his own realm, where Mephisto is functionally omnipotent. He is one with the Ultimate Nullifier, which is capable of destroying all of reality. In the Black Celestial Arc, Galactus ate entire universes. At the end of Annihilation, he, while starved of all except the bare minimum that he could live on, had a mad fit that resulted in multiple star systems being destroyed, and this was the weakest that Galactus has ever been. He's a reality warper, and a vastly powerful telepath.

The fighters you are putting up against these guys aren't even ants compared to them. They're not even worth noticing. Even if they were to resort to a fistfight for some reason, both the Odinforce and the Power Cosmic are capable of bestowing essentially unlimited physical attributes.

More realistically, Thor, Odin, or Galactus would just briefly think the DB fighters to oblivion.

All in all, this is what Comic Vine would refer to as a "Spite post." A total mismatch that is due to the poster being unaware or uncaring of the side he's not a fan of.

Odin has never been shown to create a planet, ever. The Odin-Force has limits, it can't do essentially anything. Other-wise it would just 'will', Thanos with the IG away or be roughly the same scale of power. Odin's highest attacks have only reached Galaxy busting levels. Nothing is ever mentioned to be greater than that level.

So with Beerus being stated to be a Universal buster, that makes him an infinite times more powerful than Odin. Even if Odin could use his energy manipulation or freeze time, he wouldn't be able to do so before being speed blitz'd. None of the Asgard champions have any speed feats whatsoever.

Since Odin has been beaten by Surtur -whose sword (Twilight Sword), is Galaxy Busting Level, this means Galaxy level attacks can knock out Odin.

Speed Blitz + Universal attack > Energy manipulation & time stop + Galaxy busting attacks

[Zephyr]

So with Beerus being stated to be a Universal buster

Why are you using your own fabricated "feats" in a debate?

[h0kuten]

So with Beerus being stated to be a Universal buster

Why are you using your own fabricated "feats" in a debate?

It was stated in Dragonball Super.

[voltlunok]

So with Beerus being stated to be a Universal buster

Why are you using your own fabricated "feats" in a debate?

It was stated in Dragonball Super.

Stated and performed are two different things. Plus the statement was VERY open ended. It really shouldn't be taken seriously.

[Zephyr]

So with Beerus being stated to be a Universal buster

Why are you using your own fabricated "feats" in a debate?

It was stated in Dragonball Super.

No. The word "buster" has never been used in Dragon Ball Super.

[Kamiccolo9]

Odin Force Thor (Warrior's Madness) vs Super Perfect Cell

Odin (Destroyer Armor + Odin Sword) vs Gotenks Ssj3 Post-ROST

Beerus Fully Powered vs Galactus Fully Powered

Superboy Prime vs Super Saiyan Goku (Namek Saga)

Key-Points to remember:

a) Odin Force Thor can tank attacks that K.O a normal Thor, so planetary attacks. Cell is stated as a Solar Buster.
b) Odin is a casual Galaxy Buster. However, Gotenks Ssj3 Post-ROST is infinitely stronger than Perfect Cell, the Solar Buster.
c) Beerus is stated to be a Universal Buster. Galactus has had trouble with Odin, the casual Galaxy Buster.

I'm going to humor you. Don't bother responding, because you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The Odinforce endows its wielder with vast matter and energy manipulation, that is capable of being used for essentially any purpose. Odin has used it to turn people into gods, rip out, merge, and separate souls, bring people back to life, wipe people from existence, destroy galaxies, travel through time, and basically anything else you can think of. For all intents and purposes, the Odinforce is an almost unlimited source of magical energy. Odin has been directly compared to Dormamu in terms of power, and Dormammu has demonstrated the capability to pose a challenge to Eternity, who is literally the sum of everything in the universe.
In the grand scheme of things, Odin is near the bottom of the pyramid if cosmic Marvel. Regardless, the Odinforce makes him into an extremely powerful matter and energy manipulator with control over the metaphysical sufficient to literally manipulate souls.

When you start discussing the upper level cosmic entities in Marvel, "power levels" no longer apply. Everybody is functionally omnipotent, limited only by the "tier" they are in. These are beings whose only limits are those imposed on them by themselves. Galactus is an equal to Eternity, Infinity, Death, and Oblivion, and is equal in power to all of them. It's been suggested that a fully powered Galactus is the most powerful being in the 616 Universe, although that's never been put to the test.

When Galactus encountered Jonathan Richards, also known as Hyperstorm, a being who wielded unlimited energy, he didn't bother to fight him. He just ate him. Galactus has defeated Mephisto in his own realm, where Mephisto is functionally omnipotent. He is one with the Ultimate Nullifier, which is capable of destroying all of reality. In the Black Celestial Arc, Galactus ate entire universes. At the end of Annihilation, he, while starved of all except the bare minimum that he could live on, had a mad fit that resulted in multiple star systems being destroyed, and this was the weakest that Galactus has ever been. He's a reality warper, and a vastly powerful telepath.

The fighters you are putting up against these guys aren't even ants compared to them. They're not even worth noticing. Even if they were to resort to a fistfight for some reason, both the Odinforce and the Power Cosmic are capable of bestowing essentially unlimited physical attributes.

More realistically, Thor, Odin, or Galactus would just briefly think the DB fighters to oblivion.

All in all, this is what Comic Vine would refer to as a "Spite post." A total mismatch that is due to the poster being unaware or uncaring of the side he's not a fan of.

Odin has never been shown to create a planet, ever. The Odin-Force has limits, it can't do essentially anything. Other-wise it would just 'will', Thanos with the IG away or be roughly the same scale of power. Odin's highest attacks have only reached Galaxy busting levels. Nothing is ever mentioned to be greater than that level.

So with Beerus being stated to be a Universal buster, that makes him an infinite times more powerful than Odin. Even if Odin could use his energy manipulation or freeze time, he wouldn't be able to do so before being speed blitz'd. None of the Asgard champions have any speed feats whatsoever.

Since Odin has been beaten by Surtur -whose sword (Twilight Sword), is Galaxy Busting Level, this means Galaxy level attacks can knock out Odin.

Speed Blitz + Universal attack > Energy manipulation & time stop + Galaxy busting attacks

During his fight with Infinity, Odin casually recreates planets that were destroyed during the fight. He's a reality warper; planetary creation is nothing to him. At one point, he creates a galaxy, only to destroy it later. The Odinforce's limits are those that Odin's body itself has; that's why he has to do the Odinsleep every now and then. And you totally ignored my discussion about "tiers." Functionally, Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet and Eternity were equally as powerful. The Gems placed Thanos on a higher level in the cosmic hierarchy than Eternity, so he won. Odin isn't on the same tier as these guys.

And seeing as Beerus has only demonstrated planet destroying power, trying to decry Odin by saying that "he's never blown up anything bigger than a galaxy" isn't saying much. Of the two of them, only one is ever consistently described as "Omnipotent."

As for the Twilight Sword, Goku got taken out by a ray gun. Try harder.

Odin doesn't need speed feats. He can travel through time. He's beyond mere "speed." And if he wanted to, he could just amp himself to be faster than Beerus, assuming he isn't already. The Odinforce can do that.

Try actually reading the comics, instead of just some random feat pages on Comic Vine. When you have a clue what these characters are actually capable of, come back then. But regardless, I know that trying to convince you of anything is a lost cause, and I've already proven my knowledge of the workings of the Marvel Universe subject dozens of times on this forum already, so I don't particularly care. Have a good day.