FUNimation DBZ TV Blu-ray Official On-Going Thread

[funrush]

I'm of the opinion that they should have scraped the Nathan Johnson score completely for these releases and just have English 5.1 and Japanese Mono until episode 68, wouldn't the video benefit as a result? Is there a following for the pre-Faulconer replacement score at all? Maybe they think it would be rude to Johnson...

It's Blu-Ray, I'm sure there was still plenty of space left.

Here's the bitrate info for those interested:

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Disc Size:      49,822,736,670 bytes

Nope, only about 200 Mb for disc one.

[Ashura]

I'm not buying that the track on these Blu-ray sets is just the Dragon Box version, and for several reasons that you'll hear on the next podcast, and will read in the review. For starters, I hear a slight but distinct echo going on in the background when compared to the Dragon Box audio, which clearly implies to me that it's not just the same thing. Then you've got someone like Hujio who lives in the Dragon Box world, and didn't hear the *exact* same audio he's used to when viewing this set.

Have I gone in to do some crazy spectrum analysis? No. Am I using some basic logic, though? Well, I guess *I* think I am...

I'm open to further discussion, more in-depth analysis, and especially concrete answers on it. Until then, I think I'm describing and arguing from a more sound standpoint than anything else I've seen tossed out there.

I think one thing someone should do is to compress the lossless audio into an ac3 at the same rate as the Dragonboxes and compare then as well; you're obviously losing less with the uncompressed audio.

The main fact is that the Japanese audio is at least better than on previous Funi sets, if it's not the exact Dragon Box audio, or them fiddling with it somehow.

[ect5150]

Then you've got someone like Hujio who lives in the Dragon Box world, and didn't hear the *exact* same audio he's used to when viewing this set.

And I second this. If someone wants to provide a lossless clip of the Level 1.1 Japanese audio (I don't have a BD-ROM drive on my PC), I'll do an actual spectrum analysis for it and the corresponding DragonBox clip. My ears tell me it isn't the same audio though (and why would it be?).

Check your PMs... I would be interested

[Krycek7o2]

I think one thing someone should do is to compress the lossless audio into an ac3 at the same rate as the Dragonboxes and compare then as well; you're obviously losing less with the uncompressed audio.

The main fact is that the Japanese audio is at least better than on previous Funi sets, if it's not the exact Dragon Box audio, or them fiddling with it somehow.

Or extract the core Dolby 1.0 track from the TrueHD. Just sayin'...

[Corpsecreate]

So I just got a hold of the BD.

I must say, Funimations masters really suck. They didn't completely fix the shaking, the picture still shakes its just less noticeable. The super dark colours are a real turn off for me, you lose detail everywhere that is semi-dark, picollos dark purple pants for example. The colours also seem washed out, they dont have any vibrance to them. The frames still have clear signs of dirt/scratches whatever you want to call them.

I am disappointed, hopefully toei will release their own Blu-Ray release.

[KiddoCabbusses]

Considering that you're the first person to claim to spot frames that are still damaged, can you name any particular examples?

Anyhow, Toei's masters will still have their own frame damage, color and picture shaking problems. They did on the Dragon Box and even on Kai.

This stuff just comes with the territory of aged film animation. You guys have it good compared to when I'd watch old cartoons on Cartoon Network with no remastering whatsoever.

[DanielGClapp]

Yeah, I'd like to know also. I mean you are the first person to have given this set any real criticism. Like Kiddo said, these problems come with aged film. You can't completely fix them.

[Corpsecreate]

I watched them on Cartoon Network to begin with also

It might just be that I've only seen the first episode so far, episode 1 is quite a bit worse than later episodes. The worst thing I saw is at the VERY start of episode 1, the color flickers. It's really weird.

[jpdbzrulz4sure]

It might just be that I've only seen the first episode so far, episode 1 is quite a bit worse than later episodes.

The ultimate uncut editions had that problem as well. It's possible FUNi's master film for the first episode is a later generation print than the rest of the series' masters are.

[Corpsecreate]

Heres the colour flicker:

[Ani-Nation7]

Idk I've heard only good things about this release. Well I wont really know until I manage to go out and buy it.

[Corpsecreate]

Hey I'm not saying its bad, its light years ahead of the orange bricks. I think my expectations were too high, I expected these to be near perfect.

The thing that bothers me the most is the dark colours, everything else is great...its just not perfect.

[KiddoCabbusses]

Hey I'm not saying its bad, its light years ahead of the orange bricks. I think my expectations were too high, I expected these to be near perfect.

The thing that bothers me the most is the dark colours, everything else is great...its just not perfect.

I knew not to expect "perfect" from the start, because we were not getting a new, more faithful dub, we were not getting Japanese title cards, we were not getting NEPs, and we were not having this remastered from Toei's original film masters which were the basis for DBox.

That all being said, the fact that we got something that looked -very good- from what, to my knowledge, were beat-up, decaying, tape-marked-filled nth-gen film masters wows me, and if I actually had a Blu-Ray player I'd considering purchasing a volume or two of this for FUNi to show my support for possible future remasterings done by them.

[Daimo-Rukiri]

Heres the colour flicker:

Weird, I tried looking for this after you posted it but nothing flickered on my screen. And since I don't have a blu-ray rw drive I can't really test it on my computer.
Also this may or may not be what FUNi used for TV back in the day as remember they bought new masters for their orange bricks. If I remember right they received mostly tapes for the series, correct me if I'm wrong.

One thing you said about the release, you didn't like the darker colors? I can't speak for anything pre late cell ark but I don't remember the series having "bright" colors. The had paler skin tones, the sky was "bluer" and piccolo never had a "bright" green skin tone(probably effects from aging and the film moving over to the red side)(lol)

I won't know if the colors are right until we reach the cell ark, maybe kei17 could lighten things up as his brother might remember better than him. But, I wouldn't go by VHS/Beta tapes alone.

[Corpsecreate]

I dont know what to tell you about the weird color at the start of episode 1. It's there for me and I can very clearly see it.

[dbzkfan543]

Did anyone else notice this on Madman's website?

[funrush]

Says it comes out in 2012.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Yeah, made a post a while back about Madman having this in their 2012 release schedule. $40 is fairly decent for what Madman normally charges (Is that from the NZ website or the AUS one?) but the US version still comes up at least $5 cheaper, even when you take shipping into account.
I wonder if they'll include the autograph, card thing?

[dbboxkaifan]

Makes sense FUNimation making it Region A/B since it got licensed in Australia.

[MarcFBR]

Makes sense FUNimation making it Region A/B since it got licensed in Australia.

That has nothing to do with it.

Funimation's licenses are generally worldwide, discounting Japan and some other Asian countries, and a few east European countries.

The countries they generally don't have the licenses for (minus Japan in general) are all in C, so the coding isn't included since that could be seen as them trying to bypass their license restrictions.

Funimation doesn't have an Australian subsidiary so they sublicense most of their stuff to Madman in that area. Australian fans easily could (and many do) simply import the Funi version before Madman even has the license.