The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:31 pm

LightBing wrote:Mutated Vegeta (DB Super Manga) vs Gotenks-Boo

Chilled vs Ginyu

Goku(Trunks Saga) vs King Cold - Goku can't use SSJ
-If the rage boost is permanent then Vegeta stomps,I have Mutated SSJ2 Vegeta being slightly stronger than Super Vegetto

-I have Chilled 300,000,so he rapes Ginyu unless Ginyu somehow manage to switch bodies with him

-I have Goku at that time at 5,000,000 and Cold at 100,000,000,So Cold murder stomps Goku.Kaioken 20x or 30x might give him a chance but both are too staining.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Captain Space » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:41 pm

LightBing wrote:Mutated Vegeta (DB Super Manga) vs Gotenks-Boo

Chilled vs Ginyu

Goku(Trunks Saga) vs King Cold - Goku can't use SSJ
-I don't know what the difference between the manga and anime is, but if it's basically the same, Vegeta would win with ease but for how damn long it takes to finish off Buu, and his raging power doesn't last, so Buu eventually.

-Really no idea how strong Chilled would be, so very difficult to say. Is he a powerful mutant like Freeza? How strong is an average member of their race? How strong was Bardock? Did he get a zenkai? At a guess, though, Chilled is probably roughly equivalent to first-form Freeza or in the same ballpark. Either Chilled wins instantly or body-change shenanigans happen, then.

-Cold's power wasn't too far off Freeza's, so Cold by a long way.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:41 pm

1: Ginyu(Goku's Body) vs. Zarbon(Normal)
2: Kamiccolo,Android 17 and Android 18 vs. Super 13
3: SSJ3 Goku,SSJ2 Vegeta and Good Boo(All at once) vs. Pure Boo
4: Goku(Dragon Ball Evolution) vs. Kid Goku(Beginning of Dragon Ball)
5: Luffy, Ichigo,Naruto and Natsu all at their current points in their respective sagas vs. Base Goku(Freeza Saga)
6: Pilaf Gang vs. Team Rocket
7: 50% Final Form Freeza(Namek) vs. Kibito
8: SSJ Bardock(Episode of Bardock) vs. 1rst Form Freeza(Namek)
9: Yamcha(Buu Saga) vs. Pocus
10:Vegetto vs. Whis(Equal Power)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Captain Space » Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:04 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote: 1: Ginyu(Goku's Body) vs. Zarbon(Normal)
2: Kamiccolo,Android 17 and Android 18 vs. Super 13
3: SSJ3 Goku,SSJ2 Vegeta and Good Boo(All at once) vs. Pure Boo
4: Goku(Dragon Ball Evolution) vs. Kid Goku(Beginning of Dragon Ball)
5: Luffy, Ichigo,Naruto and Natsu all at their current points in their respective sagas vs. Base Goku(Freeza Saga)
6: Pilaf Gang vs. Team Rocket
7: 50% Final Form Freeza(Namek) vs. Kibito
8: SSJ Bardock(Episode of Bardock) vs. 1rst Form Freeza(Namek)
9: Yamcha(Buu Saga) vs. Pocus
10:Vegetto vs. Whis(Equal Power)
1. Zarbon, if they're roughly equivalent and Zarbon isn't in an unfamiliar body.
2. Super 13; the movie featured him fighting a bunch of opponents not too far off of this.
3. The team; if Goku's at full power, he can do it alone, come to that.
4. Kid Goku should be faster and more durable, he wins.
5. No idea, way behind on One Piece and Bleach and don't follow Naruto or Fairy Tail.
6. I don't think Pilaf and co. have much to counter Team Rocket's better Pokemon. Of course, give the Pilaf gang their mechas and this turns around.
7. If it was mentioned that the Kaioshin could beat Freeza and ooh that's a big deal, I don't see Kibito being anywhere close, so Freeza.
8. Going by my earlier theory that Chilled is roughly equivalent to Freeza's first form, Bardock should stomp.
9. I dunno. I really have no idea.
10. Well, Vegetto has the combined fighting skills of Goku and Vegeta. We saw Whis school them both at once in martial arts knowledge and technique and stuff in RF. So, Whis, but it takes a long time.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Absolute Ice » Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:12 pm

Oozaru Tarble vs Raditz and Nappa.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:20 pm

Absolute Ice wrote:Oozaru Tarble vs Raditz and Nappa.
Considering that Tarble was considered a weakling by Saiyan standards, I'd say his BP would be in the low hundreds region. So I think Raditz would be toast, but Nappa would take him.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LightBing » Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:09 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote: 1: Ginyu(Goku's Body) vs. Zarbon(Normal)
2: Kamiccolo,Android 17 and Android 18 vs. Super 13
3: SSJ3 Goku,SSJ2 Vegeta and Good Boo(All at once) vs. Pure Boo
4: Goku(Dragon Ball Evolution) vs. Kid Goku(Beginning of Dragon Ball)
5: Luffy, Ichigo,Naruto and Natsu all at their current points in their respective sagas vs. Base Goku(Freeza Saga)
6: Pilaf Gang vs. Team Rocket
7: 50% Final Form Freeza(Namek) vs. Kibito
8: SSJ Bardock(Episode of Bardock) vs. 1rst Form Freeza(Namek)
9: Yamcha(Buu Saga) vs. Pocus
10:Vegetto vs. Whis(Equal Power)
1:(5%/95%) - Ginyu couldn't control Goku's power; Zarbon's wouldn't give him the time to have that chance.
3:(0%/100%) - Goku prepares the finishing attack, while Vegeta and Boo distract Pure Boo, gaining time. Pure Boo would let this happen, no doubt in my mind.
7:(90%/10%) - Kibito is weaker, without any good points I can think of. Freeza has this bar, any silliness on his part.
8:(85%/15%) - Freeza has some nice techniques and insane durability to make the battle a bit even, despite the power gap.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:47 pm

Okay I've got an obscure one for you guys.

This guy vs. This guy. Both were able to pretty easily overpower Kid Goku and only lost due to extenuating circumstances.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sandubadear » Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:06 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Okay I've got an obscure one for you guys.

This guy vs. This guy. Both were able to pretty easily overpower Kid Goku and only lost due to extenuating circumstances.
Lucifer overpowers pre-Roshi training Goku, while Shura overpowers post-Karin training Goku, so I guess Shura?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:09 am

New Matches:

1: 85% Beerus vs. Golden Freeza(No Stamina Issues)

2: 75% Beerus vs. SSGSS Vegeta

3: 80% Whis vs. SSGSS Vegeta and SSGSS Goku

4: Relaxed SSGSS Goku vs. Piccolo's Makaspo or whataver the name of that attack he used against Raditz

5: 1,000 Freeza's Soldiers in Resurrection 'F'(No Shisami) vs. Android 17 and Android 18

6: Vegeta(Post Recoome Zenkai and Sleep) vs. Chilled

7: Kame-Sennin(Resurrection 'F') vs. Bardock(Dragon Ball Minus)

8: MSSJ Gohan(Cell Games) vs. Dabura

9: SSJ Gotenks(Post ROSAT) vs. Janemba

10:Tenshinhan vs. Kuririn(Equal Power,No Kienzan or Kikoho)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:53 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:New Matches:

85% Beerus vs. Golden Freeza(No Stamina Issues)

75% Beerus vs. SSGSS Goku

80% Whis vs. SSGSS Vegeta and SSGSS Goku

Relaxed SSGSS Goku vs. Piccolo's Makaspo or whataver the name of that attack he used against Raditz

1,000 Freeza's Soldiers in Resurrection 'F'(No Shisami) vs. Android 17 and Android 18

Vegeta(Post Recoome Zenkai and Sleep) vs. Chilled

Kame-Sennin(Resurrection 'F') vs. Bardock(Dragon Ball Minus)

Tenshinhan vs. Kuririn(Equal Power,No Kienzan or Kikoho)
  • Beerus wins because for some reason Freeza can't beat Beerus.
  • Bluer Saiyan Goku
  • Whis because Whis
  • Piccolo
  • The Androids crush the ants...
  • Vegeta
  • Roshi
  • Krillin because Krillin > Tenshinhan etc....
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Captain Space » Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:25 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:New Matches:

1: 85% Beerus vs. Golden Freeza(No Stamina Issues)

2: 75% Beerus vs. SSGSS Vegeta

3: 80% Whis vs. SSGSS Vegeta and SSGSS Goku
According to my arbitrary numbers (which is a phrase I stole but I dunno, that's what it is):

1. Dead even, Beerus eventually takes it due to superior skills.

2. Vegeta wins but it takes him a while.

3. 80% Whis is still above Beerus, it would take both of them to maybe take 100% Beerus, soooo Whis wins.
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote: 4: Relaxed SSGSS Goku vs. Piccolo's Makaspo or whataver the name of that attack he used against Raditz

5: 1,000 Freeza's Soldiers in Resurrection 'F'(No Shisami) vs. Android 17 and Android 18

6: Vegeta(Post Recoome Zenkai and Sleep) vs. Chilled

7: Kame-Sennin(Resurrection 'F') vs. Bardock(Dragon Ball Minus)

8: MSSJ Gohan(Cell Games) vs. Dabura

9: SSJ Gotenks(Post ROSAT) vs. Janemba

10:Tenshinhan vs. Kuririn(Equal Power,No Kienzan or Kikoho)
4. I guess according to the movie's logic Goku dies, I'm still not a fan of this but whatever, it's probably stronger than a "common laser"...

5. The androids have unlimited stamina, and wearing down their enemies is the army's only chance, so the androids win. Either one of them could do it alone.

6. Freeza had a tiny power advantage over this Vegeta...if Freeza is such a prodigy, even his ancestor probably isn't quite as strong as him, so I guess Chilled is also only very nearly first-form Freeza level...so...Vegeta after a long fight?

7. One of these people can wreck dozens of Freeza's soldiers. The other did not do so in this continuity. Roshi wins.

8. Given their fight in the Buu saga, Gohan should win pretty handily unless Gohan gets stoned. Which he should be less likely to here anyway.

9. Really Goku's only problem with taking on Super Janemba was its crazy durability, he was outfighting it in hand-to-hand at first. Couple Kamikaze Ghosts and Gotenks can win. (And there's no question about Gotenks taking Janemba's first form, I feel.)

10. I would give it to Tenshinhan, he has more useful techniques and just generally seems like one of the most skilled characters in the series to me.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:15 am

Ranfan vs. Giran
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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Post by Darkprince410 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:29 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Ranfan vs. Giran
If Giran isn't swayed by her sexuality, then I'm certain he'd be able to beat her, as that seemed to be really her only means of combat. She was distracting her opponents with her sexual charms and attacking them when they dropped their guard, and without that, she really doesn't have anything going for her.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Absolute Ice » Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:12 pm

Megatron (G1 continuity and movies continuity) vs Kakarot (very first appearance in Z) and Vegeta (Saiyan saga).
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by voltlunok » Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:15 pm

Absolute Ice wrote:Megatron (G1 continuity and movies continuity) vs Kakarot (very first appearance in Z) and Vegeta (Saiyan saga).
So wait are they fighting both G1 and Movie Megs?

If yes then the bots don't really do that great. G1 Megatron was not...suuuuper impressive until later portions and the 86 movie. Movie Megs wouldn't really help much either since he's kinda bland and gets whooped easily each time...

Now IDW Megatron and TF Prime Megatron...I'd pay to see them fight the saiyans.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Absolute Ice » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:16 pm

voltlunok wrote:So wait are they fighting both G1 and Movie Megs?
Yes.
voltlunok wrote:Now IDW Megatron and TF Prime Megatron...I'd pay to see them fight the saiyans.
Me too!
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:21 pm

-Grandpa Gohan & Tao Pai Pai & King Chappa vs. Piccolo Daimao (old <50%)
-Yajirobe (23rd Budokai) vs. Piccolo Daimao (old)
-Chi-Chi (23rd Budokai) & Cyborg Tao vs. Piccolo Daimao (young)
-Krillin & Yamcha (23rd Budokai) vs. Goku (Sacred Water) & Piccolo Daimao (young)
-Goku (Saiyan Saga) vs. Guldo
-Piccolo (Freeza Saga; pre-Sync with Nail) vs. Jiece and Burter
-Freeza (%100) vs. Dr. Gero
-Mr. Satan & Videl vs. Majin Spopovich (no ki)
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:26 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:-Grandpa Gohan & Tao Pai Pai & King Chappa vs. Piccolo Daimao (old <50%)
-Yajirobe (23rd Budokai) vs. Piccolo Daimao (old)
-Chi-Chi (23rd Budokai) & Cyborg Tao vs. Piccolo Daimao (young)
-Krillin & Yamcha (23rd Budokai) vs. Goku (Sacred Water) & Piccolo Daimao (young)
-Goku (Saiyan Saga) vs. Guldo
-Piccolo (Freeza Saga; pre-Sync with Nail) vs. Jiece and Burter
-Freeza (%100) vs. Dr. Gero
-Mr. Satan & Videl vs. Majin Spopovich (no ki)
- Piccolo wins with mild effort
- Piccolo stomps hard. Yajirobe didn't make the preliminaries of the 23rd WMAT, while Chi Chi breezed through with a BP of 130, which would place his BP lower than 130, and way lower than Old King Piccolo who was at least 180.
- King Piccolo wins with mild effort.
- This is a surprisingly close battle. I reckon Goku and King Piccolo would edge out a victory.
- Guldo freezes time and spears Goku with a giant sharp piece of wood
- Hmm. My gut tells me that Piccolo could take this but I reckon that that Jeice and Burter's teamwork would give them the ultimate advantage
- If this is Dr Gero pre-absorption, Freeza takes this. But if this Dr Gero post-absorption, Freeza gets stomped.
- Mr Satan and Videl get wrecked

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:45 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:-Piccolo (Freeza Saga; pre-Sync with Nail) vs. Jeice and Burter
-Freeza (%100) vs. Dr. Gero
-Piccolo crushes both of them effortlessly. Even the Captain couldn't help them win this match.
-Gero takes Freeza's head off in a single punch.

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