The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Lord Beerus]

• Imperfect Cell(pre-600,000 humans power-up)vs. Final Form Cooler
• Sauzer & Neiz vs. Ginyu Saga Goku w/Kaioken
• Cyborg Tao & Roshi vs. Old Piccolo Daimao

- Cell stomps Cooler
- Goku blitzes Sauzer and Neiz
- King Piccolo gets his butt kicked

[Captain Space]

• Imperfect Cell(pre-600,000 humans power-up)vs. Final Form Cooler

Pretty sure Cell was above an early android saga SSJ (from Vegeta's reaction), so he should win easily here (I assume movie 5 Goku was basically Yardrat Goku).

[ahill1]

Cyborg Tao vs Old Piccolo Daimao

Giran vs Gyū Maō

Vegeta ( Saga Garlic Jr ) vs Piccolo ( Saga Garlic Jr )

Gotenks base ( Post Rosat ) vs Gotenks SSJ ( Pre Rosat )

Gotenks SSJ ( Pre Rosat ) vs Kid Boo

[Angelus]

Cell Games Krillin VS End of Z Chiaotzu (with 6 senzu beams that he'll be given a chance to consume each time)-- No Kienzans, Paralysis, or Solar Flares

Semi-Perfect Cell VS Kamiccolo + Roshi Potara Fusion

[Khin]

1: SSJ3 Goku(Super) vs. Kid Boo

2: Base Goku(Super,No Kaioken) and Base Vegeta(Super) vs. 100% Final Form Freeza(Namek)

3: Guldo vs. Recoome vs. Burtur vs. Jeese

4: Vegeta(vs. Recoome) and Monster Zarbon vs. Recoome

5: Chaozu(Mirai Trunks Saga) vs. Guldo

6: SSG Goku(Super) and Hypothetical SSG Vegeta(Super) vs. Beerus

7: Hypothetical SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta(Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell

8: 1rst Form Freeza(Revival of 'F') vs. SSJ2 Goku and Majin Vegeta

9: SSJ2 Z Sword Gohan vs. Dabra

10: 3rd Form Freeza(Namek) vs. Pocus

[Captain Space]

6: SSG Goku(Super) and Hypothetical SSG Vegeta(Super) vs. Beerus

7: Hypothetical SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta(Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell

9: SSJ2 Z Sword Gohan vs. Dabra

6. If the duo in SSGSS stand an even chance of defeating him, so I guess Beerus wins when they're each a little weaker than that and have a time limit.

7. Goku alone should be able to win (as long as he doesn't let Super Perfect Cell become a thing).

9. Gohan stomps so hard.

[Lord Beerus]

Cyborg Tao vs Old Piccolo Daimao

Giran vs Gyū Maō

Vegeta ( Saga Garlic Jr ) vs Piccolo ( Saga Garlic Jr )

Gotenks base ( Post Rosat ) vs Gotenks SSJ ( Pre Rosat )

Gotenks SSJ ( Pre Rosat ) vs Kid Boo

- Cyborg Tao stomps
- Giran takes this. He's a more skilled fighter.
- Vegeta
- SSJ Gotenks wins easliy. Base Gotenks in no way became x50 stronger after being in the ROSAT.
- If Gotenks doesn't fuck around, he should win pretty easily.

Cell Games Krillin VS End of Z Chiaotzu (with 6 senzu beams that he'll be given a chance to consume each time)-- No Kienzans, Paralysis, or Solar Flares

Semi-Perfect Cell VS Kamiccolo + Roshi Potara Fusion

- Krillin > Tien > Chiaotzu. Krillin wins easliy
- Semi Perfect Cell one shots. Kamicollo level plummets if he were to fuse with Roshi

1: SSJ3 Goku(Super) vs. Kid Boo

2: Base Goku(Super,No Kaioken) and Base Vegeta(Super) vs. 100% Final Form Freeza(Namek)

3: Guldo vs. Recoome vs. Burtur vs. Jeese

4: Vegeta(vs. Recoome) and Monster Zarbon vs. Recoome

5: Chaozu(Mirai Trunks Saga) vs. Guldo

6: SSG Goku(Super) and Hypothetical SSG Vegeta(Super) vs. Beerus

7: Hypothetical SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta(Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell

8: 1rst Form Freeza(Revival of 'F') vs. SSJ2 Goku and Majin Vegeta

9: SSJ2 Z Sword Gohan vs. Dabra

10: 3rd Form Freeza(Namek) vs. Pocus

- Goku
- Freeza wins easily. According to Beerus in BOG and Super: Freeza > Base Saiyans
- Flips a coin. Burter.
- Vegeta and Zarbon edge out the victory
- Chiaotzu. If filler is anything to by, he surpassed Guldo by a wide margin after training with King Kai.
- Whis said that if Goku and Vegeta worked together as SSJGSSJ's they'd have a chance to defeat Beerus. But as SSJG's, it would be jut like Goku and Piccolo vs Raditz, except they would do some damage to Beerus but would still lose.
- Perfect Cell gets wrecked
- Freeza one shots both Goku and Vegeta
- Gohan crushes Dabra
- Pocus

[Noah]

New matches:

- Android 13 x Android 17
- Android 14 x 100% Full Power Freeza
- Android 15 x Android 19
- Dr. Gero (No energy absorption) x Namek Goku (Post Healing Machine/With and Without Kaioken)
- Videl (Post training with Gohan) x Kid Goku (BoDB)
- Yamcha (Daimao Arc) x Tambourine
- Z Sword SSJ2 Gohan x SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games)

[Lord Beerus]

New matches:

- Android 13 x Android 17
- Android 14 x 100% Full Power Freeza
- Android 15 x Android 19
- Dr. Gero (No energy absorption) x Namek Goku (Post Healing Machine/With and Without Kaioken)
- Videl (Post training with Gohan) x Kid Goku (BoDB)
- Yamcha (Daimao Arc) x Tambourine
- Z Sword SSJ2 Gohan x SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games)

- #17 turns #13 into scrap metal
- Freeza one shots. #14 Got taken down by Base Trunks with one slash.
- #19 slaughters.
- I have Dr Gero's BP at least in the tens of millions prior to absorbing Yamcha. So he stomps Goku.
- Kid Goku beats the shit out of Videl
- This fight actually happened as a portion of filler in a episode of Dragon Ball in the King Piccolo arc in the anime. Yamcha would have died if it weren't for King Piccolo commanding Tambourine to stop.
- SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games) dominates and slaughters his SSJ2 Z-Sword counterpart.

[Absolute Ice]

Optimus Prime (IDW continuity) vs Piccolo Daimaoh and Android 9.

[Captain Space]

- Semi Perfect Cell one shots. Kamicollo level plummets if he were to fuse with Roshi

Presumably potara fusion, unlike the dance, doesn't work that way. Goku considered he might get a little stronger from fusing with Mr. Satan. (I reckon you're right about the result though, even if it does boost Piccolo it's not gonna be by much.)

New matches:

- Android 13 x Android 17
- Android 14 x 100% Full Power Freeza
- Android 15 x Android 19
- Dr. Gero (No energy absorption) x Namek Goku (Post Healing Machine/With and Without Kaioken)
- Videl (Post training with Gohan) x Kid Goku (BoDB)
- Yamcha (Daimao Arc) x Tambourine
- Z Sword SSJ2 Gohan x SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games)

-17, Goku was pretty even with 13 and 17 was a good few steps above that.
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- Freeza one shots. #14 Got taken down by Base Trunks with one slash.

I don't want to make a post that's just nitpicking yours, and I do apologise if it comes off as annoying, but he was in SSJ (he powered down to base a second or so afterwards; 14 had also managed to land a good enough glancing hit to draw blood, though it wasn't nearly as close a call as Vegeta vs. 15). I can't see Freeza doing that. Speaking of which:

-15, before he died, knocked SSJ Vegeta on his ass and in fact knocked him clean out of SSJ. 19 didn't even come close to doing that to the same version of Vegeta, 15 wins easy.

-Gero should be leagues ahead of Goku, but if you give him Kaioken...maybe? Eh, still probably Gero honestly, he's probably at least above 50% Freeza.

-Tambourine...he did kill Krillin pretty damn quick after all.

-I have absolutely no idea.

[supercat]

1: SSJ3 Goku(Super) vs. Kid Boo

2: Base Goku(Super,No Kaioken) and Base Vegeta(Super) vs. 100% Final Form Freeza(Namek)

3: Guldo vs. Recoome vs. Burtur vs. Jeese

4: Vegeta(vs. Recoome) and Monster Zarbon vs. Recoome

5: Chaozu(Mirai Trunks Saga) vs. Guldo

6: SSG Goku(Super) and Hypothetical SSG Vegeta(Super) vs. Beerus

7: Hypothetical SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta(Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell

8: 1rst Form Freeza(Revival of 'F') vs. SSJ2 Goku and Majin Vegeta

9: SSJ2 Z Sword Gohan vs. Dabra

10: 3rd Form Freeza(Namek) vs. Pocus

1. Although I attribute Goku's statement about having the ability to wipe out Kid Buu as a slight overestimation of his abilities, I'd say by the events of Super, he gained the power necessitated to live up to his little boast.

2. Frieza effortlessly decimates both Saiyans without batting an eye. The power gap between Goku and the tyrant was probably significant, as subtle differences likely wouldn't have elicited that remark from Beerus.

3.Barring the ability to freeze time, Guldo goes down instantly while his comrades clobber each other in a slug-fest. Burter's speed may give him an edge against the sluggish Recoome, but the latter's durability may be too daunting of a wall for the former to take down. As for Jeice, I've always seen him as the most well-rounded of the trio, along with having the best firepower; it seems quite plausible that he would overcome his colleagues' shortcomings with his well balanced arsenal.

4. Zarbon would get annihilated even quicker than Vegeta did. That said, if the former could somehow distract the brutish Ginyu long enough while buying the latter an opening for one of his signature attacks, I could see this ending favorably for team 1.

5. Well a filler episode depicted Chaozu giving Guldo a decent beating back in the Frieza arc; pretty sure the outcome wouldn't differ to any notable degree even if the battle were to have taken place in a canon setting.

6. At full power, Beerus would obliterate the SSG duo with the utmost ease.

7. Goku and Vegeta weren't that far below MSSJ Gohan. An SSJ2 boost would suffice in putting them a tier above the biological android.

8. First Form Frieza is a mountain compared to a duo of Super Saiyan 2's. Seriously, even dialing them both up to SSJ3 would be inadequate. Frieza's new and improved first form is at least Super Buu - Ultimate Gohan-tier. The fact that Gohan didn't lament over his lack of training, or at the very least kick himself for being such a slacker is possible indication that he never had anything on the hover chair riding tyrant. Additionally, First Form Frieza's brief display of power was actually able to push a Whis trained Goku back --a feat I doubt is attainable for anyone short of Ultimate Gohan.

9. I have the Z-Sword wielding Gohan a notch or two above his Cell-busting counterpart, so Babidi's right hand man doesn't stand a chance here. Dabura's less-than-ideal swordsmanship would get him sliced in half.

10. Pui Pui, along with Dodoria and Yakon struck me as one of the most useless fighters in the entire series. Power scaling wise, the incompetent lackey could be anywhere in the same realm of power as Captain Ginyu and Final Form Frieza (prior to training of course).

[DBZAOTA482]

Cyborg Tao vs Old Piccolo Daimao

Giran vs Gyū Maō

Vegeta ( Saga Garlic Jr ) vs Piccolo ( Saga Garlic Jr )

Gotenks base ( Post Rosat ) vs Gotenks SSJ ( Pre Rosat )

Gotenks SSJ ( Pre Rosat ) vs Kid Boo

-Cyborg Tao wins low-mid difficulty
-Giran wins due to lack of info on Gyū Maō
-Vegeta....?
-Gotenks SSJ stomps
-Gotenks stomps if he's serious

1: SSJ3 Goku(Super) vs. Kid Boo

2: Base Goku(Super,No Kaioken) and Base Vegeta(Super) vs. 100% Final Form Freeza(Namek)

3: Guldo vs. Recoome vs. Burtur vs. Jeese

4: Vegeta(vs. Recoome) and Monster Zarbon vs. Recoome

5: Chaozu(Mirai Trunks Saga) vs. Guldo

6: SSG Goku(Super) and Hypothetical SSG Vegeta(Super) vs. Beerus

7: Hypothetical SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta(Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell

8: 1rst Form Freeza(Revival of 'F') vs. SSJ2 Goku and Majin Vegeta

9: SSJ2 Z Sword Gohan vs. Dabra

10: 3rd Form Freeza(Namek) vs. Pocus

-Kid Boo one-shots. SSJ Goku could barely beat Freeza
-Freeza
-Burter and Jeice
-Recoome due to his crazy durable
-Chaozu was weaker than Yajirobe during the Android Saga. Guldo takes this easily.
-They both kill each other
-Freeza blows them away. literally.
-Slice n' dice
-Freeza stomps. Literally.

New matches:

- Android 13 x Android 17
- Android 14 x 100% Full Power Freeza
- Android 15 x Android 19
- Dr. Gero (No energy absorption) x Namek Goku (Post Healing Machine/With and Without Kaioken)
- Videl (Post training with Gohan) x Kid Goku (BoDB)
- Yamcha (Daimao Arc) x Tambourine
- Z Sword SSJ2 Gohan x SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games)

-If it's regular #13 then #17 stomps cuz Base Goku (barely) held his own against him but of it's Super #13 then #17's fucked.
-#14 stomps
-#19 stomps
-Dr. Gero one-shots
-Goku stomps
-Yamcha (Daimao Arc) is the same one from the 22nd Budokai so he loses just as easily as Krillin did.
-Slice n' dice

[Khin]

SSGSS Goku's amplified Kamehameha vs. Beerus
SSGSS Vegeta's amplified Final Flash vs. Whis
Beerus and Whis needs to tank it head on like how LSSJ Broly tanked Goku's kamehameha in Movie 8,can they tank it?

Revival of 'F' characters Gaunlet:

Kuririn
-Captain Ginyu
-Vegeta(Post Recoome Zenkai and Sleep)
-1rst Form Freeza(Namek)
-Tenshinhan(Revival of 'F)
-Initial 2nd Form Freeza(Namek)

Shisami(Post no explanation power up)
-ASSJ Mirai Trunks(Cell Games)
-ASSJ Vegeta(Cell Games)
-Cell Jr.
-MSSJ Goku(Cell Games)
-Kaioshin

SSJ Gohan
-MSSJ Goku(Cell Games)
-Kaioshin
-SSJ Teen Gohan(25th WMAT)
-MSSJ Kid Gohan(Cell Games)
-SSJ Teen Gohan(Post Z-Sword Training)

Final Form Freeza
-Ultimate Gohan
-Gotenks-Boo
-Gohan-Boo
-Mutated SSJ2 Vegeta
-Super Vegetto
-SSJ2 Vegetto
-SSJ3 Vegetto
-10% Beerus
-60% Saiyan Beyond God Goku(Revival of 'F')

[Captain Space]

SSGSS Goku's amplified Kamehameha vs. Beerus
SSGSS Vegeta's amplified Final Flash vs. Whis
Beerus and Whis needs to tank it head on like how LSSJ Broly tanked Goku's kamehameha in Movie 8,can they tank it?

Revival of 'F' characters Gaunlet:

Kuririn
-Captain Ginyu
-Vegeta(Post Recoome Zenkai and Sleep)
-1rst Form Freeza(Namek)
-Tenshinhan(Revival of 'F)
-Initial 2nd Form Freeza(Namek)

Shisami(Post no explanation power up)
-ASSJ Mirai Trunks(Cell Games)
-ASSJ Vegeta(Cell Games)
-Cell Jr.
-MSSJ Goku(Cell Games)
-Kaioshin

SSJ Gohan
-MSSJ Goku(Cell Games)
-Kaioshin
-SSJ Teen Gohan(25th WMAT)
-MSSJ Kid Gohan(Cell Games)
-SSJ Teen Gohan(Post Z-Sword Training)

Final Form Freeza
-Ultimate Gohan
-Gotenks-Boo
-Gohan-Boo
-Mutated SSJ2 Vegeta
-Super Vegetto
-SSJ2 Vegetto
-SSJ3 Vegetto
-10% Beerus
-60% Saiyan Beyond God Goku(Revival of 'F')

I think Beerus probably wouldn't survive, but Whis might, maaaaybe?

Krillin clears his list.

Shisami crashes and burns hard at Goku.

Gohan can maybe take Kaioshin but nobody else on that list.

Freeza clears his list.

[Khin]

New matches:
- Android 13 x Android 17
- Android 14 x 100% Full Power Freeza
- Android 15 x Android 19
- Dr. Gero (No energy absorption) x Namek Goku (Post Healing Machine/With and Without Kaioken)
- Videl (Post training with Gohan) x Kid Goku (BoDB)
- Yamcha (Daimao Arc) x Tambourine
- Z Sword SSJ2 Gohan x SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games)

-Android 17 returns home with a new toaster
-Android 14 sluaghters Freeza
-Android 19 stomps
-Goku wins after a hard battle
-Kid Goku finger flicks
-Tambourine trashes Yamcha
-SSJ2 Kid Gohan wins with medium level of difficulty

[Captain Space]

There seems to be this consensus that android 19 is far stronger than 15...15 does so much better against (the same version of) Vegeta than 19 does, I really don't know where this idea comes from or why it's so universal.

[Lord Beerus]

There seems to be this consensus that android 19 is far stronger than 15...15 does so much better against (the same version of) Vegeta than 19 does, I really don't know where this idea comes from or why it's so universal.

It's mainly because Vegeta was toying with #15 for the entirety of the fight and killed with one punch as a SSJ. Whereas #19 was able to last longer even made Vegeta bleed.

[Captain Space]

There seems to be this consensus that android 19 is far stronger than 15...15 does so much better against (the same version of) Vegeta than 19 does, I really don't know where this idea comes from or why it's so universal.

It's mainly because Vegeta was toying with #15 for the entirety of the fight and killed with one punch as a SSJ. Whereas #19 was able to last longer even made Vegeta bleed.

Not exactly. Once Vegeta turns SSJ, so he's fully serious now:

-A few seconds of evenly trading rapid blows.

-15 knocks Vegeta back into a wall (again).

-They charge in, the punch you're thinking of happens (Vegeta is visibly working harder than 15 here, though android so who knows if that means anything), and 15 dies, but the hit 15 simultaneously delivered knocks Vegeta to the ground pretty limply and actually knocks him clean out of Super Saiyan. I really don't see 19 doing that.

19 lasted a while because Vegeta did nothing but screwing around the entire time.

[Berserker1921]

Goku (BoG) porta fusion with Majin Uub (GT) or Gokub vs Beerus?
Buu absorbed Omega Shenron, cell, and frieza (pre RoF) vs Whis?
Kamiccolo porta fusion kibito-Kai vs Fat Buu?
King Kai and Master Roshi (RoF) fusion dance vs Zarbon?