The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[supercat]

Piccolo is actually my favorite character. I do believe he's not far from SSJ2 level, since he's always training.

I do think he has a change against Buu, since he lost much of his power when Evil Buu was "released" from him.

Same to Dabura, he's weaker than a SSJ2, and since I believe Piccolo he's not far from that level, it would be an interesting fight.

While SSJ2-tier may be tad bit of a stretch, Cell Games MSSJ level doesn't seem far-fetched at all. The Namekian was likely only a few notches below Cell Jr. during their showdown against the biological android, so another seven plus years of training could have easily sufficed in pushing him up to a MSSJ-tier in my opinion.

People automatically speculate that Piccolo regressed substantially because he was unable to trump some villain that SSJ Gohan (FnF) casually one-shotted. While it's nearly impossible to pinpoint where exactly each character stands in terms of power, I feel it's a bit preposterous to nonchalantly conclude that Gohan fell below his Cell-busting counterpart simply because there was one brief scene of him doubting his own ability to go SSJ.

If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say the track suit-sporting warrior is more or less in the same realm of power as his Z-Sword-wielding self; on the lower end of that spectrum, MSSJ (Cell Games) could very well be a possibility as well. To flat out say that he's been reduced to garbage without irrefutable evidence, and then toss Piccolo into that same category...yeah, not a notion that I stand behind. Furthermore, the form Gohan assumed when he slammed his fist into Shisami looked heck of a lot like Super Saiyan 2; his hair was spiked straight up versus rocking that unkempt look his regular Super Saiyan transformation was originally known for.

I've always deciphered the whole thing about SSJ2 and SSJ3 being discontinued as the terms themselves no longer being utilized while the physical characteristics of the form (hair, power, lightning, etc) get lumped in as regular Super Saiyan. Then again, who knows how that'll all turn out.

I just thought of one: Ox King vs. Majin Spopovich

IMO Ox King would win easily but I want to see what you guys think.

Spopovich definitely falls into the category of inconsistent durability; despite his seemingly fragile exterior, he was shown pulling through a horrific injury.

The amount of damage that Videl was able to dish out tells me that the brutish Majin hasn't received a mind-boggling boost by any stretch. That said, his ability to survive potentially fatal blows could go a long way against an opponent like Ox King in my opinion.

When all is said and done, I'd say Chi Chi's colossal beast of a father has a pretty good chance of snagging victory, as long as he goes full force right from the get-go.

[Captain Space]

I've always deciphered the whole thing about SSJ2 and SSJ3 being discontinued as the terms themselves no longer being utilized while the physical characteristics of the form (hair, power, lightning, etc) get lumped in as regular Super Saiyan. Then again, who knows how that'll all turn out.

I more interpreted it as 'they can train SSJ1 to more efficiently surpass SSJ2/3, just like they trained it to surpass Grade 2/3 before', i.e. they have to actively do it (like they did for the Cell Games). Hence Goku wouldn't be using SSJ2/3 anymore, just SSJ1...which he basically now is, just with god power mixed in. I don't think it applies to Gohan (even a non-god version) unless he trains to specifically accomplish that.

[supercat]

I've always deciphered the whole thing about SSJ2 and SSJ3 being discontinued as the terms themselves no longer being utilized while the physical characteristics of the form (hair, power, lightning, etc) get lumped in as regular Super Saiyan. Then again, who knows how that'll all turn out.

I more interpreted it as 'they can train SSJ1 to more efficiently surpass SSJ2/3, just like they trained it to surpass Grade 2/3 before', i.e. they have to actively do it (like they did for the Cell Games). Hence Goku wouldn't be using SSJ2/3 anymore, just SSJ1...which he basically now is, just with god power mixed in. I don't think it applies to Gohan (even a non-god version) unless he trains to specifically accomplish that.

That's actually a viable notion as well. Either way, I find no reason to believe that Gohan and Piccolo suffered the kind of regression that many fans claim they did. A cursory scene pertaining to the former's uncertainty to go SSJ isn't going to convince me that he suddenly plummeted down to low-tier SSJ.

I still abide by my original theory; he simply lost his ability to tap into his Ultimate powers, but kept the vast majority of his SSJ / SSJ2 strength.

In any case, he may have expressed doubts about turning SSJ because he hasn't transformed in a good while (excluding the SSG ritual, which could very well have been an involuntary action). He was probably just unsure whether or not he should leverage his Ultimate powers or go gold like the old days; meaning, even he himself wasn't sure where he specifically stood in terms of power.

[ahill1]

Goku SSJ (DBS) vs Perfect Cell (full power)

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Goku SSJ (DBS) vs Perfect Cell (full power)

If Goku from DBS is really stronger than Ultimate Gohan, he'd win this fight in base, let alone Super Saiyan.

[dbgtFO]

Goku SSJ (DBS) vs Perfect Cell (full power)

Goku sneezes, Cell is disintegrated.

[Khin]

Goku SSJ (DBS) vs Perfect Cell (full power)

Goku wins with mild difficulty.

[Captain Space]

That's actually a viable notion as well. Either way, I find no reason to believe that Gohan and Piccolo suffered the kind of regression that many fans claim they did. A cursory scene pertaining to the former's uncertainty to go SSJ isn't going to convince me that he suddenly plummeted down to low-tier SSJ.

I still abide by my original theory; he simply lost his ability to tap into his Ultimate powers, but kept the vast majority of his SSJ / SSJ2 strength.

In any case, he may have expressed doubts about turning SSJ because he hasn't transformed in a good while (excluding the SSG ritual, which could very well have been an involuntary action). He was probably just unsure whether or not he should leverage his Ultimate powers or go gold like the old days; meaning, even he himself wasn't sure where he specifically stood in terms of power.

That's fair. I don't see Piccolo as regressing (there's really no reason to believe he's got weaker, he's one of the most likely characters to train constantly, any inconsistency is more to do with Shisami than Piccolo in my opinion), but I think Gohan did somewhat.

I see RF Gohan as being below any FPSSJ level he's been at before (since even at the 25th Budokai he had no doubts about going SSJ)...but not hugely below. Like, his 25th Budokai self is a little stronger than his RF self, his post-Z-sword self is a little stronger than that, and his Cell Games self is a little stronger than that. So he's still got a good majority of his SSJ strength.

But him being unsure about going SSJ kind of ties into my theory about what's up with him never going SSJ2 after his confrontation with Kibito; he was losing his control over SSJ2, so he could only do it in a more 'stable' situation (standing still, facing off against Kibito) than in a high-intensity fight (his lingering anger over Videl's injuries probably helped too). So a few years later, I reckon the exact same loss-of-control process is starting to happen with SSJ1, though not yet to nearly such an extent (so he can still do it just fine, but maybe it's a little harder so he's not as sure of it as he used to be). Perhaps that's why he only used it for a few seconds, rather than staying transformed?

[Khin]

Well folks i guess its time for some new matches:

1: 100% Organic Final Form Freeza(Namek) vs. King Cold and 4rth Form Cooler

2: 100% Mecha Freeza and King Cold vs. SSJ Goku(Namek)

3: SSJ Kid Mirai Trunks(First Time) vs. Base Vegeta(Post Dende heal)

4: Tenshinhan's Kikoho(vs.Semi Perfect Cell) vs. 1rst Form Freeza(Namek)

5: Time Patrol Trunks(Xenoverse) vs. Super Vegetto(Manga)

6: Final Form Demigra(Xenoverse) vs. SSGSS Vegeta

7: Mira(Xenoverse) vs. Super Buu

8: Yamcha(Buu Saga) vs. Vegeta(Post Recoome Zenkai and Sleep)

9: SSJ2 Goku(Buu Saga) vs. SSJ2 Vegeta(Pre Majin) and SSJ Kid Gohan(Cell Games)

10: Videl(Pre Ki Training) vs. Blonde Launch(No Guns)

[Captain Space]

Well folks i guess its time for some new matches:

1: 100% Organic Final Form Freeza(Namek) vs. King Cold and 4rth Form Cooler

2: 100% Mecha Freeza and King Cold vs. SSJ Goku(Namek)

3: SSJ Kid Mirai Trunks(First Time) vs. Base Vegeta(Post Dende heal)

4: Tenshinhan's Kikoho(vs.Semi Perfect Cell) vs. 1rst Form Freeza(Namek)

5: Time Patrol Trunks(Xenoverse) vs. Super Vegetto(Manga)

6: Final Form Demigra(Xenoverse) vs. SSGSS Vegeta

7: Mira(Xenoverse) vs. Super Buu

8: Yamcha(Buu Saga) vs. Vegeta(Post Recoome Zenkai and Sleep)

9: SSJ2 Goku(Buu Saga) vs. SSJ2 Vegeta(Pre Majin) and SSJ Kid Gohan(Cell Games)

10: Videl(Pre Ki Training) vs. Blonde Launch(No Guns)

1. If Freeza is only a little stronger than Cold, then...Freeza wins with significant difficulty. Cooler's basically a non-factor.

2. I have it as Mecha-Freeza > organic Freeza ~ Namek SSJ Goku, so I figure Freeza wins, but it takes him ages.

3. I have no clue!

4. Freeza is purple paste.

5. Vegetto should stomp, Trunks didn't seem all that strong. Though can anyone confirm what level he was at during his later fights (and where in the game's/series' power-scale that places him)?

6. Vegeta, Demigra 's final form is pretty damn strong but his transformation made him slower, and he was at or not too far above 70% Beerus' level before...

7. Super Buu, you face him after your final fight with Mira, so I got the impression that was to create a rising threat level.

8. I honestly could see them being at around a similar level.

9. Goku should only have a small advantage over Gohan, so Vegeta's help should let team 2 win.

10. Videl is a martial artist that can K.O. thugs two or three times her size and is stronger than the world martial arts champion. Lunch is a fairly tough but not too physically extraordinary person. Videl wins pretty handily.

[ahill1]

Well folks i guess its time for some new matches:

1: 100% Organic Final Form Freeza(Namek) vs. King Cold and 4rth Form Cooler

2: 100% Mecha Freeza and King Cold vs. SSJ Goku(Namek)

3: SSJ Kid Mirai Trunks(First Time) vs. Base Vegeta(Post Dende heal)

4: Tenshinhan's Kikoho(vs.Semi Perfect Cell) vs. 1rst Form Freeza(Namek)

5: Time Patrol Trunks(Xenoverse) vs. Super Vegetto(Manga)

6: Final Form Demigra(Xenoverse) vs. SSGSS Vegeta

7: Mira(Xenoverse) vs. Super Buu

8: Yamcha(Buu Saga) vs. Vegeta(Post Recoome Zenkai and Sleep)

9: SSJ2 Goku(Buu Saga) vs. SSJ2 Vegeta(Pre Majin) and SSJ Kid Gohan(Cell Games)

10: Videl(Pre Ki Training) vs. Blonde Launch(No Guns)

1- Mecha Freeza is much stronger than King Cold so he should win.

2- The two wins wasily. Mecha Freeza can take Goku from Namek alone but it's just my opinion.

3- Kid Trunks SSJ should not be far weaker than Gohan base IMO. Gohan base is equal to Vegeta (Trunks arc), maybe a little stronger I would think, so Kid Trunks SSJ would win.
Gohan base (1 arm) 7,500,000
Vegeta (Trunks arc) 7,500,000
Kid Trunks SSJ (vs Gohan 1 arm) 6,375,000
Vegeta (post Dende heal) 3,000,000

4- tenshinhan's Kikoho murders Freeza IMO.

8- Yamcha boo saga should be on par with Piccolo(Trunks arc) IMO, so he one-shot Vegeta.
Yamcha (buu saga) 7,000,000
Piccolo (Trunks arc) 7,000,000
Vegeta (post sleep) 500,000

9-It's a good fight; I don't think Gohan SSJ2 (Cell games) that much weaker than Goku SSJ2 (buu saga), since Piccolo said that Majin Vegeta is maybe stronger than Gohan. I think that with Vegeta's help the two would win, but after a tough fight.

10-Videl defeat Luch pre ki Training IMO.

[nickzambuto]

Current Gohan vs Super Boo.

I seem to have a different interpretation of Gohan's Super Saiyan transformation in RoF than most people. We know that the Ultimate Warrior powerup brought all of Gohan's dormant potential up to the surface, and likewise, the Super Saiyan transformation works by unlocking a part of the user's dormant potential. That's why Gohan no longer needed to go SSJ in the Boo arc, all of his potential was already brought to the surface.

We see in BoG that Gohan hasn't lost a bit of power since the Boo arc, and since he was apparently wearing his gi underneath his civilian clothes, the common theory is that he actually has been keeping in shape. That, or superheroics as Great Saiyaman keep him in shape.

So in BoG Gohan was still the Ultimate Warrior, yet after merely one year of not training (presumably because he became a full-time family man) people assume he went all the way down to his post-Cell power level? But it took seven years of not training to reach that point beforehand, and Gohan in Resurrection 'F' was starting from a much higher point, meaning even if he lost the same amount of power, he wouldn't be at the same level.

Example: Cell Games Gohan is a 20. 7 years of not training takes 5 points from his strength making him a 15. Ultimate Gohan is a 50. The same amount of time spent not training would take away the same strength, so he's a 45. But he actually spent much LESS time not training, so the loss would be even smaller.

Therefore, it is my belief that Gohan didn't actually lose a whole bunch of power in Resurrection 'F', rather he only lost some power and just needed his Super Saiyan transformation to bring out the last remnants of dormant power and bring him back up to Ultimate levels. After all, never in the movie is Gohan implied to be weak. He is vastly superior to all of his friends including Piccolo, and that was before transforming.

So my question is, does this theory make more sense than the theory that Gohan in Resurrection 'F' is just a generic Super Saiyan? And if so, how would he stack up with Super Boo in his base, or Super Saiyan form if you think he needs it?

[Khin]

Current Gohan vs Super Boo.

I seem to have a different interpretation of Gohan's Super Saiyan transformation in RoF than most people. We know that the Ultimate Warrior powerup brought all of Gohan's dormant potential up to the surface, and likewise, the Super Saiyan transformation works by unlocking a part of the user's dormant potential. That's why Gohan no longer needed to go SSJ in the Boo arc, all of his potential was already brought to the surface.

We see in BoG that Gohan hasn't lost a bit of power since the Boo arc, and since he was apparently wearing his gi underneath his civilian clothes, the common theory is that he actually has been keeping in shape. That, or superheroics as Great Saiyaman keep him in shape.

So in BoG Gohan was still the Ultimate Warrior, yet after merely one year of not training (presumably because he became a full-time family man) people assume he went all the way down to his post-Cell power level? But it took seven years of not training to reach that point beforehand, and Gohan in Resurrection 'F' was starting from a much higher point, meaning even if he lost the same amount of power, he wouldn't be at the same level.

Example: Cell Games Gohan is a 20. 7 years of not training takes 5 points from his strength making him a 15. Ultimate Gohan is a 50. The same amount of time spent not training would take away the same strength, so he's a 45. But he actually spent much LESS time not training, so the loss would be even smaller.

Therefore, it is my belief that Gohan didn't actually lose a whole bunch of power in Resurrection 'F', rather he only lost some power and just needed his Super Saiyan transformation to bring out the last remnants of dormant power and bring him back up to Ultimate levels. After all, never in the movie is Gohan implied to be weak. He is vastly superior to all of his friends including Piccolo, and that was before transforming.

So my question is, does this theory make more sense than the theory that Gohan in Resurrection 'F' is just a generic Super Saiyan? And if so, how would he stack up with Super Boo in his base, or Super Saiyan form if you think he needs it?

I dont think people who dont train will get weaker as the time passes,thats like saying guys Yajirobe is now only a regular human level because they didnt train for decades,they will just get surpassed and there skills will be very rusty,Gohan at the Buu saga just lost his rage boost because he didnt train,his regular MSSJ and SSJ2 is still as strong as his Cell Games self but hes not that skilled compared to before and he will not recieve a boost if he get angry,Goku and Vegeta only surpass him because both of them are training day and night while Gohan didnt,As for Gohan vs. Super Buu,even if Gohan will not train for eternity,his ''Ultimate'' state will still be as strong as his Buu Saga self because if i remember correctly it draws out the users Potetial,i dont think you lose potential just because you didnt train,but his skills will be very rusty,Gohan with his ''Ultimate'' state will still beat Super Buu easily,As for his Base,SSJ and SSJ2,its still as strong as his Z-Sword Self,No one can support an evidence that he got weaker,His SSJ one shot a guy who gives Piccolo a hard time,Piccolo at that time is either stronger or as strong as the Cell Jrs.

Either one of these is the reason why he didnt use his ''Ultimate'' state in that movie.

1: He lost his ''Ultimate'' state due to not training

2: He just go SSJ to let Freeza know that he is also an SSJ like his father

3: He didnt to go to that state if he will just beat a guy way weaker than his SSJ self

4: The writers just use the SSJ form because no one in the movie is an SSJ because Goten and Trunks are not on it and they will also reveal a new transformation that will wipe out the SSJ forms for Goku/Vegeta.

5: Akira Toriyama wants to end the theories that Gohan no longer have his SSJ form because his potential is unleashed by the Elder Kaioshin.

[supercat]

That's actually a viable notion as well. Either way, I find no reason to believe that Gohan and Piccolo suffered the kind of regression that many fans claim they did. A cursory scene pertaining to the former's uncertainty to go SSJ isn't going to convince me that he suddenly plummeted down to low-tier SSJ.

I still abide by my original theory; he simply lost his ability to tap into his Ultimate powers, but kept the vast majority of his SSJ / SSJ2 strength.

In any case, he may have expressed doubts about turning SSJ because he hasn't transformed in a good while (excluding the SSG ritual, which could very well have been an involuntary action). He was probably just unsure whether or not he should leverage his Ultimate powers or go gold like the old days; meaning, even he himself wasn't sure where he specifically stood in terms of power.

That's fair. I don't see Piccolo as regressing (there's really no reason to believe he's got weaker, he's one of the most likely characters to train constantly, any inconsistency is more to do with Shisami than Piccolo in my opinion), but I think Gohan did somewhat.

I see RF Gohan as being below any FPSSJ level he's been at before (since even at the 25th Budokai he had no doubts about going SSJ)...but not hugely below. Like, his 25th Budokai self is a little stronger than his RF self, his post-Z-sword self is a little stronger than that, and his Cell Games self is a little stronger than that. So he's still got a good majority of his SSJ strength.

But him being unsure about going SSJ kind of ties into my theory about what's up with him never going SSJ2 after his confrontation with Kibito; he was losing his control over SSJ2, so he could only do it in a more 'stable' situation (standing still, facing off against Kibito) than in a high-intensity fight (his lingering anger over Videl's injuries probably helped too). So a few years later, I reckon the exact same loss-of-control process is starting to happen with SSJ1, though not yet to nearly such an extent (so he can still do it just fine, but maybe it's a little harder so he's not as sure of it as he used to be). Perhaps that's why he only used it for a few seconds, rather than staying transformed?

Well Gohan hovering below his 25th Budokai-self would likely mean that Piccolo is several notches below Cell Jr. by the time of Frieza's revival; personally, I'm quite skeptical about the Namekian still falling short of the sadistic little spawns after seven plus years of training.

I just interpret Gohan's doubts pertaining to his ability to transform as a side effect that came about from losing his Ultimate form / powers. In short, going from having his latent power drawn out to the surface back to resorting to strenuous transformations was probably an intense transition that left his body in a state of confusion. Lounging around as a Super Saiyan 24/7 likely isn't synonymous with his overall strength; he could still very well be wielding Cell-busting power, but can only do so on a limited basis due to not having transformed in quite some time. I mean, if his Ultimate form yielded the faculty to fight full force without any drawbacks, it seems quite logical to assume that his body simply needed to be reacquainted with the energy sapping effects of transformations in general.

[Captain Space]

Current Gohan vs Super Boo.

I seem to have a different interpretation of Gohan's Super Saiyan transformation in RoF than most people. We know that the Ultimate Warrior powerup brought all of Gohan's dormant potential up to the surface, and likewise, the Super Saiyan transformation works by unlocking a part of the user's dormant potential. That's why Gohan no longer needed to go SSJ in the Boo arc, all of his potential was already brought to the surface.

We see in BoG that Gohan hasn't lost a bit of power since the Boo arc, and since he was apparently wearing his gi underneath his civilian clothes, the common theory is that he actually has been keeping in shape. That, or superheroics as Great Saiyaman keep him in shape.

So in BoG Gohan was still the Ultimate Warrior, yet after merely one year of not training (presumably because he became a full-time family man) people assume he went all the way down to his post-Cell power level? But it took seven years of not training to reach that point beforehand, and Gohan in Resurrection 'F' was starting from a much higher point, meaning even if he lost the same amount of power, he wouldn't be at the same level.

Example: Cell Games Gohan is a 20. 7 years of not training takes 5 points from his strength making him a 15. Ultimate Gohan is a 50. The same amount of time spent not training would take away the same strength, so he's a 45. But he actually spent much LESS time not training, so the loss would be even smaller.

Therefore, it is my belief that Gohan didn't actually lose a whole bunch of power in Resurrection 'F', rather he only lost some power and just needed his Super Saiyan transformation to bring out the last remnants of dormant power and bring him back up to Ultimate levels. After all, never in the movie is Gohan implied to be weak. He is vastly superior to all of his friends including Piccolo, and that was before transforming.

So my question is, does this theory make more sense than the theory that Gohan in Resurrection 'F' is just a generic Super Saiyan? And if so, how would he stack up with Super Boo in his base, or Super Saiyan form if you think he needs it?

I see it more like this: After a certain amount of time not really keeping in shape too well, the ultimate/mystic thing just...wore off completely. It didn't slowly degrade like his SSJ forms, it just went, snapping him back to where he was before.

So if he went from 20 to 15 like in your example, losing his ultimate/mystic state brought him immediately back down to 15, or possibly even lower if his SSJ power had been still degrading 'behind the scenes'; he then lost another point or two by the time of RF. (Which still leaves room for him to be significantly above Piccolo, and Piccolo to have improved from the Cell Games; Cell Games Gohan was pretty crazy strong.)

I dont think people who dont train will get weaker as the time passes,thats like saying guys Yajirobe is now only a regular human level because they didnt train for decades,they will just get surpassed and there skills will be very rusty,Gohan at the Buu saga just lost his rage boost because he didnt train,his regular MSSJ and SSJ2 is still as strong as his Cell Games self but hes not that skilled compared to before and he will not recieve a boost if he get angry,Goku and Vegeta only surpass him because both of them are training day and night while Gohan didnt,As for Gohan vs. Super Buu,even if Gohan will not train for eternity,his ''Ultimate'' state will still be as strong as his Buu Saga self because if i remember correctly it draws out the users Potetial,i dont think you lose potential just because you didnt train,but his skills will be very rusty,Gohan with his ''Ultimate'' state will still beat Super Buu easily,As for his Base,SSJ and SSJ2,its still as strong as his Z-Sword Self,No one can support an evidence that he got weaker,His SSJ one shot a guy who gives Piccolo a hard time,Piccolo at that time is either stronger or as strong as the Cell Jrs.

Yajirobe presumably still occasionally does a little training from time to time, he had enough to be pretty competent with a sword when we first met him and there's no reason to believe he just stopped. What he had a problem with was Kami's super-intense special training, and even then he at least stuck with it until he left the Lookout.

So yeah, I think you do get weaker through that; I'm pretty sure Goku and/or Vegeta said Gohan had gotten weaker and indicated that his lack of training was the cause (and they'd seen non-raging SSJ Gohan at the Cell Games to compare that to).

That at least makes way more sense to me than saying not training caused him to lose his rage boost. He's had that since he was a kid. Why would not training cause him to lose something he's always naturally had, rather than causing him to lose something he gained through training?

[Battousai]

Well folks i guess its time for some new matches:

1: 100% Organic Final Form Freeza(Namek) vs. King Cold and 4rth Form Cooler

2: 100% Mecha Freeza and King Cold vs. SSJ Goku(Namek)

3: SSJ Kid Mirai Trunks(First Time) vs. Base Vegeta(Post Dende heal)

4: Tenshinhan's Kikoho(vs.Semi Perfect Cell) vs. 1rst Form Freeza(Namek)

5: Time Patrol Trunks(Xenoverse) vs. Super Vegetto(Manga)

6: Final Form Demigra(Xenoverse) vs. SSGSS Vegeta

7: Mira(Xenoverse) vs. Super Buu

8: Yamcha(Buu Saga) vs. Vegeta(Post Recoome Zenkai and Sleep)

9: SSJ2 Goku(Buu Saga) vs. SSJ2 Vegeta(Pre Majin) and SSJ Kid Gohan(Cell Games)

10: Videl(Pre Ki Training) vs. Blonde Launch(No Guns)

1. Frieza wins but dies soon after cause of his wounds.
2. Team Frieza win.
3. Kid Trunks win.
4. Tenshinhan one shots.
5. Didn't play Xenoverse so...
6. Didn't play Xenoverse
7. Didn't play Xenoverse
8. Yamcha gets this one.
9. Close fight. But Goku wins.
10. Videl wins.

[DBZAOTA482]

Goku (Cell Games) vs. Gohan (Boo Saga)

[LightBing]

Goku (Cell Games) vs. Gohan (Boo Saga)

30%/70% - Even with all the rustiness, Gohan is a good deal stronger than that version of Goku. He could use an shunkan ido Kamehameha to cause heavy damage and gain the upper hand; which isn't that unlikely.

[Captain Space]

Goku (Cell Games) vs. Gohan (Boo Saga)

Probably Gohan, I don't see Cell Games Goku doing nearly that well against an opponent comparable to no-holds-barred Cell.

[nickzambuto]

Here's a question: if Piccolo at the end of the series flicked Freeza from the Namek arc in the same fashion that Beerus flicked Goku, what would happen?

A) Minor damage.
B) Severe damage.
C) Instant death.
D) Freeza's head explodes.

When Fukkatsu was first announced I remember seeing a fan comic of Goku, Vegeta, and Piccolo yelling "oh no Freeza's back!" then realizing how weak Freeza is now and just having Piccolo flick his head off. I'm wondering if that's actually realistic, or if the strength difference wasn't THAT huge.

And here's a question; how much stronger than someone else do you need to be in order to finger flick them? Even Nappa was punching the Dragon Team, and Reccoome on Namek deemed Krillin worthy of a kick. Even when Perfect Cell no-sold Vegeta's kick straight to the neck, he still retaliated with strikes and not flicks, and Vegeta didn't even die. So a strength difference must be a lot more massive than just no-selling level in order to finger flick.