The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:29 pm

Won't the acid kill him too if he try to eat him :lol: ?
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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:54 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Won't the acid kill him too if he try to eat him :lol: ?
Goku would spit out the acid because it would taste too sour for him.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Blade » Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:55 pm

Battousai wrote: Chaozu vs Jaco the Gallatic Patrolman
Chaozu. Jaco states that he would be no match for a fully grown Saiyan, whereas Chaozu surpasses Raditz, a Saiyan elite. I take it as read that the Freeza soldiers that Jaco fights in RoF aren't upto much.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:31 pm

Blade wrote:
Battousai wrote: Chaozu vs Jaco the Gallatic Patrolman
Chaozu. Jaco states that he would be no match for a fully grown Saiyan, whereas Chaozu surpasses Raditz, a Saiyan elite. I take it as read that the Freeza soldiers that Jaco fights in RoF aren't upto much.
I'm not too sure about that...
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:34 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Blade wrote:
Battousai wrote: Chaozu vs Jaco the Gallatic Patrolman
Chaozu. Jaco states that he would be no match for a fully grown Saiyan, whereas Chaozu surpasses Raditz, a Saiyan elite. I take it as read that the Freeza soldiers that Jaco fights in RoF aren't upto much.
I'm not too sure about that...
Didnt Chaozu had a Power Level of 610 by Saiyan Saga? Pretty sure with the Kaio-sama training and all those years training with Ten,He should be far above Raditz.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:20 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote: Didnt Chaozu had a Power Level of 610 by Saiyan Saga? Pretty sure with the Kaio-sama training and all those years training with Ten,He should be far above Raditz.
Chaozu was implied to be still be weaker than Yajirobe in the Android Saga since Goku agreed with Tien that it was too dangerous but wanted Yajirobe to join and I doubt he gotten too much stronger afterwards.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LightBing » Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:41 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote: Didnt Chaozu had a Power Level of 610 by Saiyan Saga? Pretty sure with the Kaio-sama training and all those years training with Ten,He should be far above Raditz.
Chaozu was implied to be still be weaker than Yajirobe in the Android Saga since Goku agreed with Tenshinhan that it was too dangerous but wanted Yajirobe to join and I doubt he gotten too much stronger afterwards.
Yajirobe just went there to deliver the senzus. I doubt he ever trained seriously post-Saiyan Arc. What is implied is that Chiaotzu, didn't progress enough to have any impact in fight. I have him at Ginyu Force tier.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Noah » Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:18 pm

New matches:

- Base Broly x Base Vegeta
- Cyborg Tao x Spopovich
- Piccolo (Post Kaio training) x Nail
- The Original Super Saiyan God x The Original Legendary Super Saiyan
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Post by nickzambuto » Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:28 am

Noah wrote:New matches:

- Base Broly x Base Vegeta
- Cyborg Tao x Spopovich
- Piccolo (Post Kaio training) x Nail
- The Original Super Saiyan God x The Original Legendary Super Saiyan
Base Vegeta... I... think?
Tao fodderizes the mild superhuman.
Nail by showings but they were probably similar.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:32 am

Noah wrote:New matches:

- Base Broly x Base Vegeta
- Cyborg Tao x Spopovich
- Piccolo (Post Kaio training) x Nail
- The Original Super Saiyan God x The Original Legendary Super Saiyan
- Broly.
- Cyborg Tao decimates Spopovich
- Piccolo stomps
- I''m not sure.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LightBing » Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:38 am

Noah wrote:New matches:

- Base Broly x Base Vegeta
- Cyborg Tao x Spopovich
- Piccolo (Post Kaio training) x Nail
- The Original Super Saiyan God x The Original Legendary Super Saiyan
- Depends on which Vegeta and Broly, if it's current(Super) Vegeta should clean him up while taking a clothesline or two.

-Cyborg Tao tongues Spopovich to death.

-I suppose Piccolo wins, he was so keen on fighting Freeza even after Kaio warnings. So he must be at least superior to Nail, who he decapitates.

-If I remember correctly the Legendary Super Saiyan destroyed the Saiyans homeworld. While the Original God couldn't defeat the evil Saiyans before the time run out. This makes the Legendary Super Saiyan many times stronger than the God. He wins without difficulty.

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Post by Kid Buu » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:04 am

Gohan vs. Dabura, if the fight continued.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:16 am

Kid Buu wrote:Gohan vs. Dabura, if the fight continued.
Gohan.

Dabura couldn't do shit to him at all.

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:56 am

Kid Buu wrote:Gohan vs. Dabura, if the fight continued.
Dabra. Gohan was huffing and puffing, while Dabra wasn't. It was also indirectly stated that Gohan was losing, and we know that Dabra is more than strong enough to damage him.
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Post by Captain Space » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:19 am

nickzambuto wrote: But keep in mind the last time Goku saw Tenshinhan in action was at the 23ed Budokai. He was not aware of Tenshinhan's immense gains at King Kai's planet, nor of the fact that Tenshinhan, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu beat the Ginyu Force. Nobody was powered up at the time so Goku couldn't have been sensing them, he just guessed that it must have been Vegeta or Piccolo.
That's true, but the more spiritually-aware heroes generally have a better sense for someone's hidden true powers; Goku could probably make an estimate.

Besides, Tenshinhan's greatest feat in the anime was beating two average Ginyu Force members, after initially having some difficulty. Vegeta was ahead of at least Freeza's second form, probably the third too. I don't think Ten would've caught up by this point, especially since I don't think Vegeta ever stopped training because MUST BEAT KAKAROT BECOME SUPER SAIYAN ARGH BLARGH
LightBing wrote: -If I remember correctly the Legendary Super Saiyan destroyed the Saiyans homeworld. While the Original God couldn't defeat the evil Saiyans before the time run out. This makes the Legendary Super Saiyan many times stronger than the God. He wins without difficulty.
Surely that doesn't say anything about the SSJ God's power, just his time limit which we know is a thing in that form. He probably stomped each individual foe he faced, but he couldn't just pop the planet since that wasn't his aim, and it takes a looooong time to get through a whole planet-full of foes.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Blade » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:35 am

Kid Buu wrote:Gohan vs. Dabura, if the fight continued.
I'd go Dabura. Gohan lacked battle sharpness and was complacent, and I think that Dabura's would have got in a kill-shot sooner or later.

Even if Gohan had managed to open up the burners and draw from some of that Cell-games power, I think his state of mind and rustiness would have counted against him.
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:36 am

Kid Buu wrote:Gohan vs. Dabura, if the fight continued.
Gohan.

Dabra in no way could overwhelm Gohan, despite the latter being extremely rusty. The gap is significant enough that Dabra couldn't inflict any damage to Gohan to go towards Majin Boo.

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Post by Saiga » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:56 am

Kid Buu wrote:Gohan vs. Dabura, if the fight continued.
Hard to say for me. From their brief fight, Gohan had the advantage in hand to hand and Dabra was keeping him at bay by surprising him with various uses of magic.

Gohan appeared exhausted right after breaking Dabra's sword, but those signs of fatigue are gone in the next panel. So I think if things continued, Dabra would probably run out of tricks and lose.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:18 am

Noah wrote:New matches:

- Base Broly x Base Vegeta
- Cyborg Tao x Spopovich
- Piccolo (Post Kaio training) x Nail
- The Original Super Saiyan God x The Original Legendary Super Saiyan
- Base Vegeta
- We've established already that anyone strong from the 21st Budokai and beyond would destroy Spopovich so... obviously Tao
- Piccolo. Nail outright praised his power.
- Orginal SSJG
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:22 am

Kid Buu wrote:Gohan vs. Dabura, if the fight continued.
Dabura. Gohan lacked the experience to counter Dabura's magic abilities and was implied to have been losing.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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