Mastered Ultra Instinct [Spoiler Discussion Thread]

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Re: Mastered Ultra Instinct [Spoiler Discussion Thread]

Post by ZenkaiBoosts » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:07 pm

Draconic wrote:
ZenkaiBoosts wrote:Gameplay of MUI Goku

https://youtu.be/b6zC5DZ3xs4

Looks amazing. That massive one handed blast is called "meteor strike"...hmmmm? Could that be the finishing blow on Jiren? Note the move list of MUI Goku "soaring fist"...and "surging spirit"...Very interesting
The blast is actually part of the Godly Display ultimate attack. Basically the whole thing with the flips is part of it. Can't wait to see that in the anime!

Also, I recommend not watching those videos for anyone wanting to get some surprises when the episode airs. Let's just say that UI Goku is pretty different from the regular one.
Oops my bad. Should have marked it as spoilers lol

But yeah. It looks freaking incredible. I love the silverish/blue aura with Goku's silver hair. My gosh it looks utterly gorgeous. I can't wait to see mastered UI Goku in action in the anime. Especially that move. Wow it's going to be awesome. I have a feeling this is going to top SS2 Gohan vs Cell and Goku vs Frieza on Namek. ..I bet MUI Goku vs Jiren (and how Goku defeats him, here's hoping) will go down as one of the greatest most iconic battles and scenes In all of Dragon Ball

I really wonder what surging spirit could be...and soaring fist? Canon version of Dragon fist? Very very interesting; )

Just when I thought I couldn't be any more hype for 129 and mastered UI Goku, just wow......I'm bursting at the seams with hype. It can't be contained any longer lol

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Re: Mastered Ultra Instinct [Spoiler Discussion Thread]

Post by dbgtFO » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:51 pm

Draconic wrote: Also, I recommend not watching those videos for anyone wanting to get some surprises when the episode airs. Let's just say that UI Goku is pretty different from the regular one.
What's so different about this one, other than the obvious hair color change?

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Re: Mastered Ultra Instinct [Spoiler Discussion Thread]

Post by Draconic » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:10 pm

dbgtFO wrote:
Draconic wrote: Also, I recommend not watching those videos for anyone wanting to get some surprises when the episode airs. Let's just say that UI Goku is pretty different from the regular one.
What's so different about this one, other than the obvious hair color change?
Entirely different combo strings.
Check out the videos below, made by yours truly!

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Re: Mastered Ultra Instinct [Spoiler Discussion Thread]

Post by ZenkaiBoosts » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:34 pm

dbgtFO wrote:
Draconic wrote: Also, I recommend not watching those videos for anyone wanting to get some surprises when the episode airs. Let's just say that UI Goku is pretty different from the regular one.
What's so different about this one, other than the obvious hair color change?
Everything lol. Different hair style. Beautiful combination of colors with aura/hair etc. Different physique. Completely different moves

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Re: Mastered Ultra Instinct [Spoiler Discussion Thread]

Post by dbgtFO » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:55 pm

Draconic wrote: Entirely different combo strings.
ZenkaiBoosts wrote:Completely different moves
Meh, doesn't ruin anything for me at least, knowing this beforehand, but I don't consider it a big deal, so I guess that's why.

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Re: Mastered Ultra Instinct [Spoiler Discussion Thread]

Post by Draconic » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:56 pm

dbgtFO wrote:
Draconic wrote: Entirely different combo strings.
ZenkaiBoosts wrote:Completely different moves
Meh, doesn't ruin anything for me at least, knowing this beforehand, but I don't consider it a big deal, so I guess that's why.
I imagine most people don't. Hell, Toei/Bandai doesn't, since they're releasing the character weeks before seeing him in action in the show. Just wanted to give a heads up to people who do :D
Check out the videos below, made by yours truly!

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Re: Mastered Ultra Instinct [Spoiler Discussion Thread]

Post by ZenkaiBoosts » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:59 pm

Draconic wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:
Draconic wrote: Entirely different combo strings.
ZenkaiBoosts wrote:Completely different moves
Meh, doesn't ruin anything for me at least, knowing this beforehand, but I don't consider it a big deal, so I guess that's why.
I imagine most people don't. Hell, Toei/Bandai doesn't, since they're releasing the character weeks before seeing him in action in the show. Just wanted to give a heads up to people who do :D
What's your thoughts on meteor strike and soaring fist? I saw an interesting youtube vid the other day speculating if one of mastered UI Goku's special moves could be calling upon zalama.

Also do you plan to play as MUI Goku? Know when it's coming out?

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Re: Mastered Ultra Instinct [Spoiler Discussion Thread]

Post by Draconic » Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:07 pm

ZenkaiBoosts wrote:
Draconic wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:
Meh, doesn't ruin anything for me at least, knowing this beforehand, but I don't consider it a big deal, so I guess that's why.
I imagine most people don't. Hell, Toei/Bandai doesn't, since they're releasing the character weeks before seeing him in action in the show. Just wanted to give a heads up to people who do :D
What's your thoughts on meteor strike and soaring fist? I saw an interesting youtube vid the other day speculating if one of mastered UI Goku's special moves could be calling upon zalama.

Also do you plan to play as MUI Goku? Know when it's coming out?
He looks fun as hell. Quite OP too, from what I've seen. I'm going to try out everybody, but honestly I'm more excited about the promised original story for this pack, more than any of the characters. Even Fuu I don't really care about gameplay-wise, even though storywise he's my main draw.

There's a few match-ups and team-ups I plan to make with UI Goku, which should be pretty fun.

Meteor Strike is a generic melee move in Xenoverse, so I don't really care. If you mean that Godly Display Ultimate, I think it looks amazing and does toooons of damage. Soaring Fist is cool. I like it, but it doesn't feel that special. The one thing I'm dissapointed is he doesn't have the Sliding Kamehamha which did Kefla in, but I understand it might be a tough move to pull off in gameplay.

The pack is coming out on the 28th.
Check out the videos below, made by yours truly!

Goku vs Beerus BOG/Super mash-up https://gofile.io/d/kKKnMe

Vegeta vs Freeza ROF/Super mash-up https://gofile.io/d/MKPepW

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Re: Mastered Ultra Instinct [Spoiler Discussion Thread]

Post by ZenkaiBoosts » Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:12 pm

Draconic wrote:
ZenkaiBoosts wrote:
Draconic wrote: I imagine most people don't. Hell, Toei/Bandai doesn't, since they're releasing the character weeks before seeing him in action in the show. Just wanted to give a heads up to people who do :D
What's your thoughts on meteor strike and soaring fist? I saw an interesting youtube vid the other day speculating if one of mastered UI Goku's special moves could be calling upon zalama.

Also do you plan to play as MUI Goku? Know when it's coming out?
He looks fun as hell. Quite OP too, from what I've seen. I'm going to try out everybody, but honestly I'm more excited about the promised original story for this pack, more than any of the characters. Even Fuu I don't really care about gameplay-wise, even though storywise he's my main draw.

There's a few match-ups and team-ups I plan to make with UI Goku, which should be pretty fun.

Meteor Strike is a generic melee move in Xenoverse, so I don't really care. If you mean that Godly Display Ultimate, I think it looks amazing and does toooons of damage. Soaring Fist is cool. I like it, but it doesn't feel that special. The one thing I'm dissapointed is he doesn't have the Sliding Kamehamha which did Kefla in, but I understand it might be a tough move to pull off in gameplay.

The pack is coming out on the 28th.
So meteor strike is a move everyone has? It's not exclusive to MUI Goku?

But he does that huge one handed blast. I bet that's an exclusive MUI Goku move we see in the anime: )

But yeah...sliding kamehamha would've been amazing...but honestly how would you incorporate that into gameplay? It would have to be a qte. Or maybe a counter to when someone shoots a blast at you, and you ride it and kamehamha to the face lol

Btw, tell me MUI Goku doesn't look gorgeous with the aura and silver hair? I'm on PS4. I know I'm going to be spending most of time taking screenshots in photomode lol

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Re: Mastered Ultra Instinct [Spoiler Discussion Thread]

Post by ZenkaiBoosts » Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:26 pm

Draconic wrote:
ZenkaiBoosts wrote:
Draconic wrote: I imagine most people don't. Hell, Toei/Bandai doesn't, since they're releasing the character weeks before seeing him in action in the show. Just wanted to give a heads up to people who do :D
What's your thoughts on meteor strike and soaring fist? I saw an interesting youtube vid the other day speculating if one of mastered UI Goku's special moves could be calling upon zalama.

Also do you plan to play as MUI Goku? Know when it's coming out?
He looks fun as hell. Quite OP too, from what I've seen. I'm going to try out everybody, but honestly I'm more excited about the promised original story for this pack, more than any of the characters. Even Fuu I don't really care about gameplay-wise, even though storywise he's my main draw.

There's a few match-ups and team-ups I plan to make with UI Goku, which should be pretty fun.

Meteor Strike is a generic melee move in Xenoverse, so I don't really care. If you mean that Godly Display Ultimate, I think it looks amazing and does toooons of damage. Soaring Fist is cool. I like it, but it doesn't feel that special. The one thing I'm dissapointed is he doesn't have the Sliding Kamehamha which did Kefla in, but I understand it might be a tough move to pull off in gameplay.

The pack is coming out on the 28th.
Also you should check out the latest trailer of zenoverse 2. Something possibly very interesting happens regarding MUI Goku: )

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Re: Mastered Ultra Instinct [Spoiler Discussion Thread]

Post by PerhapsTheOtherOne » Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:30 pm

Something I love about the Ultra Instinct as a whole is that it completely changes up the flow of how Goku fights.

I wonder how it'd look in a fight where Goku can fly.

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Post by majinwarman » Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:52 pm

PerhapsTheOtherOne wrote:Something I love about the Ultra Instinct as a whole is that it completely changes up the flow of how Goku fights.

I wonder how it'd look in a fight where Goku can fly.
It probably will be so cool to see on screen. But, you should look at Xenoverse 2 as a preview to that if we get to see UI in the future.
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Badass! Finnaly some good promo art.... cannot wait for tomorrow!

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Post by PerhapsTheOtherOne » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:31 pm

Something I've been thinking about is the manner in which Goku uses the Ultra Instinct.

He must ascend into forms to utilize this power. We've seen one other character who has to take on a form to be able to utilize a specific power: Toppo. His body mutated, becoming buffer and more defined, allowing him to utilize the Hakai Energy that all Hakaishin possess and make liberal use of.

Maybe Goku's body did the same thing; Saiyans are known for tapping into their potential power through transformations, after all.

By breaking the shell of his limits, Goku's body ascended to a form that utilized the Ultra Instinct. I don't think one can separate the Ultra Instinct from the form itself, though. It seems to me that Goku's body changed in response to tapping into the Ultra Instinct, much like Toppo's did in response to tapping into Hakai Energy. So, perhaps what we're seeing with the Perfected Ultra Instinct is Goku's body mutating further to utilize the full extent of the Ultra Instinct.

In summary, the Ultra Instinct manifests itself as a new form when Goku uses it, as does Toppo's Hakai Energy.

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Post by GodVegetto91 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:42 pm

PerhapsTheOtherOne wrote:Something I've been thinking about is the manner in which Goku uses the Ultra Instinct.

He must ascend into forms to utilize this power. We've seen one other character who has to take on a form to be able to utilize a specific power: Toppo. His body mutated, becoming buffer and more defined, allowing him to utilize the Hakai Energy that all Hakaishin possess and make liberal use of.

Maybe Goku's body did the same thing; Saiyans are known for tapping into their potential power through transformations, after all.

By breaking the shell of his limits, Goku's body ascended to a form that utilized the Ultra Instinct. I don't think one can separate the Ultra Instinct from the form itself, though. It seems to me that Goku's body changed in response to tapping into the Ultra Instinct, much like Toppo's did in response to tapping into Hakai Energy. So, perhaps what we're seeing with the Perfected Ultra Instinct is Goku's body mutating further to utilize the full extent of the Ultra Instinct.

In summary, the Ultra Instinct manifests itself as a new form when Goku uses it, as does Toppo's Hakai Energy.
You do know these things are always best explained through out-of-universe explanations - Toei wants, Toei prefers.

In this case, i fully understand it. If Goku only gained the technique to move without thinking, without any change or alter in his appearance, than it would be boring as fuck, same with Toppo. Having “transformations” (however slightly they might change the users original appearance) is neccesary to physically show us a change in power, to visually represent a new power/technique. If the person’s appearance remained completely unaltered and the same, than the audience wouldn’t really be able to clearly tell that there is a huge change in the characters abilities.

That, and.... Merchandising!!!

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Re: Mastered Ultra Instinct [Spoiler Discussion Thread]

Post by majinwarman » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:03 pm

PerhapsTheOtherOne wrote:Something I've been thinking about is the manner in which Goku uses the Ultra Instinct.

He must ascend into forms to utilize this power. We've seen one other character who has to take on a form to be able to utilize a specific power: Toppo. His body mutated, becoming buffer and more defined, allowing him to utilize the Hakai Energy that all Hakaishin possess and make liberal use of.

Maybe Goku's body did the same thing; Saiyans are known for tapping into their potential power through transformations, after all.

By breaking the shell of his limits, Goku's body ascended to a form that utilized the Ultra Instinct. I don't think one can separate the Ultra Instinct from the form itself, though. It seems to me that Goku's body changed in response to tapping into the Ultra Instinct, much like Toppo's did in response to tapping into Hakai Energy. So, perhaps what we're seeing with the Perfected Ultra Instinct is Goku's body mutating further to utilize the full extent of the Ultra Instinct.

In summary, the Ultra Instinct manifests itself as a new form when Goku uses it, as does Toppo's Hakai Energy.
That is a great theory PerhapsTheOtherOne.
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Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Image

Badass! Finnaly some good promo art.... cannot wait for tomorrow!
I wonder if that will be his awakened Dokkan card art.
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No one posted this on here?

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Badass.

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Baggie_Saiyan wrote:No one posted this on here?

Image

Badass.
Looks fucking amazing!!!

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