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by Xeogran » Fri Dec 19, 2025 8:02 am
PhantomSaiyan wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:42 am
Who is putting Yammamuro in charge again? That's one thing that's making me doubt these leaks to be honest, because if this is true, then Toei lost their mind
As strange as it is, I can understand this decision from business perspective - DBS was a financial success so he's a safe-bet. It's also so that the remake STILL doesn't completely overshadow the previous version. It can't look infinitely better because we apparently don't deserve it.
...now I'm wondering if freaking DBS Broly gets remade in modern Yamamuro style

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by JulieYBM » Fri Dec 19, 2025 8:52 am
The Dark Knight wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 3:52 am
mecha3000 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 2:28 amY'know, at first, I really wanted a remake of the original 42 volumes of Dragon Ball as an anime. And I still do. But assuming this Super remake is real, I'm actually really on board with it.
I never understood the desire of fans to get a remake of classic Dragon Ball & Dragon Ball Z. They adapted the manga almost 1:1, with minimal changes here and there. The voice actors were at the top of their game, and the background music and songs were very well composed and placed. The art and animation were regularly on point, with the occasional drop here and there. I guess a faster-paced story is appealing, but for each piece of bad filler they remove, they will also be removing good filler that improved the overall story. Then of course there will be the issues of toning everything down in order to appeal to the widest market of people possible, something the two classic series rarely did. Another issue that would likely arise is them sprinkling in references to future events in Super and Daima to better tie all of them together, even though neither existed when the original manga was being written and adapted.
These are all precisely why a new animated adaption is worth making.
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by The Dark Knight » Fri Dec 19, 2025 9:08 am
PhantomSaiyan wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:42 amWho is putting Yammamuro in charge again? That's one thing that's making me doubt these leaks to be honest, because if this is true, then Toei lost their mind
My understanding of this project is that it isn't a full remake, but rather an improved version of what we already have. Yammamuro was the person in-charge of Super, so it only makes sense to have him improve his own work, assuming any of this is true of course.
JulieYBM wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 8:52 amThese are all precisely why a new animated adaption is worth making.
Why would you try to fix something that isn't broken ? Wouldn't it be better to invest that time and resources into something either completely new or a remake of something that actually needs it ?
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by JulieYBM » Fri Dec 19, 2025 10:08 am
The Dark Knight wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 9:08 am
PhantomSaiyan wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:42 amWho is putting Yammamuro in charge again? That's one thing that's making me doubt these leaks to be honest, because if this is true, then Toei lost their mind
My understanding of this project is that it isn't a full remake, but rather an improved version of what we already have. Yammamuro was the person in-charge of Super, so it only makes sense to have him improve his own work, assuming any of this is true of course.
JulieYBM wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 8:52 amThese are all precisely why a new animated adaption is worth making.
Why would you try to fix something that isn't broken ? Wouldn't it be better to invest that time and resources into something either completely new or a remake of something that actually needs it ?
Because it is broken.
Like, come on, there was no reason to make an animated adaption in 1986 anyway, we don't need to go around treating these things as sacred.
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by Skar » Fri Dec 19, 2025 11:23 am
The Dark Knight wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 3:52 amI never understood the desire of fans to get a remake of classic Dragon Ball & Dragon Ball Z. They adapted the manga almost 1:1, with minimal changes here and there. The voice actors were at the top of their game, and the background music and songs were very well composed and placed. The art and animation were regularly on point, with the occasional drop here and there.
That's how I feel about a remake for the original series. Most anime remakes I've seen are to make it more faithful to the manga especially if the original anime diverged and ended while the manga was still ongoing. That doesn't apply to DB since the anime did fully adapt the manga. Kai already existed so completely reanimating DBZ seems unlikely. DB had less filler and mostly consistent animation compared to some later sagas of DBZ.
I don't think a remake of Super is necessary but seems more likely if the goal is to eventually adapt the rest of the manga. A Kai version fixing some of the animation and less filler/padding then continue with the manga arcs and other movies.
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by Koitsukai » Fri Dec 19, 2025 11:36 am
The original anime is not broken.
And what do you mean there was no reason? It kickstarted the franchise as we know it, globalized the story, did wonders for some bank accounts, and also gave work to many people all over the world and still does.
It brought the material to people who couldn’t read japanese or had no access to content exclusive to a Pacific island.
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by JulieYBM » Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:03 pm
Koitsukai wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 11:36 am
The original anime is not broken.
And what do you mean there was no reason? It kickstarted the franchise as we know it, globalized the story, did wonders for some bank accounts, and also gave work to many people all over the world and still does.
It brought the material to people who couldn’t read japanese or had no access to content exclusive to a Pacific island.
I mean, "Read a comic book."
It's not a big deal to me to think about a world without Dragon Ball as a cartoon. For all I know, it's a better reality.
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by The Dark Knight » Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:07 pm
JulieYBM wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:03 pmIt's not a big deal to me to think about a world without Dragon Ball as a cartoon.
This right here is what nightmares are made of.

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by Xeogran » Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:40 pm
JulieYBM wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:03 pm
For all I know, it's a better reality.
Dragon Ball motivated plenty of people to train and improve their condition, mind and body, so respectfully I disagree

These online wars this fandom constantly has aren't worth the sacrifice of the good that DB anime has brought to this world.
But that's getting off-topic, so I'll stop at that.
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by FlpShimizu » Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:40 pm
JulieYBM wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:03 pm
Koitsukai wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 11:36 am
The original anime is not broken.
And what do you mean there was no reason? It kickstarted the franchise as we know it, globalized the story, did wonders for some bank accounts, and also gave work to many people all over the world and still does.
It brought the material to people who couldn’t read japanese or had no access to content exclusive to a Pacific island.
I mean, "Read a comic book."
It's not a big deal to me to think about a world without Dragon Ball as a cartoon. For all I know, it's a better reality.
That thought makes me wanna go cry in a corner.
"I'm never fighting a gag manga character again!"
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by JulieYBM » Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:46 pm
Xeogran wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:40 pm
JulieYBM wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:03 pm
For all I know, it's a better reality.
Dragon Ball motivated plenty of people to train and improve their condition, mind and body, so respectfully I disagree

These online wars this fandom constantly has aren't worth the sacrifice of the good that DB anime has brought to this world.
But that's getting off-topic, so I'll stop at that.
You're kind of missing the forest for the trees here. The idea that the world would be better without a 1986 Dragon Ball animated series is hardly a big deal to balk at. This is to say nothing of the fact that we clearly don't live in such a world lol.
FlpShimizu wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:40 pmThat thought makes me wanna go cry in a corner.
The thought of reading makes you want to cry?
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by FlpShimizu » Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:55 pm
JulieYBM wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:46 pm
Xeogran wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:40 pm
JulieYBM wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:03 pm
For all I know, it's a better reality.
Dragon Ball motivated plenty of people to train and improve their condition, mind and body, so respectfully I disagree

These online wars this fandom constantly has aren't worth the sacrifice of the good that DB anime has brought to this world.
But that's getting off-topic, so I'll stop at that.
You're kind of missing the forest for the trees here. The idea that the world would be better without a 1986 Dragon Ball animated series is hardly a big deal to balk at. This is to say nothing of the fact that we clearly don't live in such a world lol.
FlpShimizu wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:40 pmThat thought makes me wanna go cry in a corner.
The thought of reading makes you want to cry?
Don't be mean now.
"I'm never fighting a gag manga character again!"
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by VegettoEX » Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:59 pm
Y'all are getting weird about this now. Julie, you're derailing things. Bring it back around, or stop.
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by JulieYBM » Fri Dec 19, 2025 1:19 pm
VegettoEX wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:59 pm
Y'all are getting weird about this now. Julie, you're derailing things. Bring it back around, or stop.
I'm not trying to argue with you here but I wouldn't be having to dig for answers to replies to my post if people weren't taking a figurative shrug with this weird pessimist attitude and replying with vague responses that interpret what I said as Completely, Unthinkably Bad No Matter What.
Like, I think my post speaks for itself, but this is also me telling you that I'm going to do as you ask.
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by Mr Baggins » Fri Dec 19, 2025 2:14 pm
I don't mean to shame or police anyone here, but it sure would be nice to read this thread without the same user filling up almost every thread page replying to literally every other post with the exact same takes they've already shared a dozen times.
Just let this discussion breathe, yo. Holy shit.
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by Super Saiyan Swagger » Fri Dec 19, 2025 8:47 pm
Had to log back in when I heard that the Super anime might actually be returning.
The thought that Super debut over a decade ago hurts my head. Honestly felt like yesterday.
I have felt kinda indifferent towards this franchise ever since Toriyama's passing, which is why I haven't posted in a while. But I still wanted to see the last few manga arcs adapted into an anime.
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by JulieYBM » Fri Dec 19, 2025 9:12 pm
The one image that I have seen appears to just be a key frame from Battle of Gods in 2013 lol.
They're not remaking Dragon Ball Super, let alone with Yamamuro Tadayoshi in charge of the animation character designs and animation supervision again.
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by The Dark Knight » Fri Dec 19, 2025 11:34 pm
JulieYBM wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 9:12 pmThe one image that I have seen appears to just be a key frame from Battle of Gods in 2013 lol.
This is the supposed "leak" everyone's talking about...I think.
This doesn't look like anything we haven't seen from countless fans over the years, so take it with a massive grain of salt.
For comparison, this is an image from the ritual we got in 2015:
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by Mr Baggins » Fri Dec 19, 2025 11:38 pm
Worth noting that the genga in question shows Gohan in his vest suit, which during the ritual was exclusive to the Super retelling.
This isn't an argument for its legitimacy, but it sure as hell ain't from Battle of Gods.
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by The Dark Knight » Fri Dec 19, 2025 11:46 pm
Mr Baggins wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 11:38 pm
Worth noting that the genga in question shows Gohan in his vest suit, which was exclusive to the Super retelling.
This isn't an argument for its legitimacy, but it sure as hell ain't from Battle of Gods.
The rumor going around is that it isn't a full blown remake from the ground up, but rather an improved version of what we already have. I guess what they're doing is what they did for the home release, just on a grander scale. The two images above are more or less the same, just with better facial expressions and a change in how Videl is holding hands with Goten and Trunks. If this is indeed what's happening, it explains why Yammamuro was brought back, not that he really left mind you. This would basically allow them to have their cake and eat it too, in that they can put out a better Super without putting in the resources and effort a full remake would require. I do wonder if they'll make any changes to the scripts and rerecord lines where needed, as the writing was also an issue in Super.