Season Four set arrives 2/19/2008

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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:22 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:I think that this is the last DBZ set FUNimation's releasing. How much more can they do?
Release it on Blu-ray, as they've hinted at doing.
And again, understand, this is for the future.
Really? Where the fuck is my flying car! :P
In 5 years on Cartoon Network HD or the FUNimation channel in HD, when everyone is going to have HDTVs, this is the footage they will show.
Which is sad if you're right, because any other HD channel worth a damn shows 4:3 material in pillarboxed form, just as they'll show material that is wider than 16:9 in letterboxed form.

Oh well, glad I didn't have faith in FUNimation back in 2003 :P

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Post by SonEric84 » Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:22 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:You think that's nuts? Good luck finding a Japanese Dragon Ball Final Bout. I was looking on Ebay and they were going for $100 and whatnot. Got it for $20 brand new.


That's ridiculous, I got all three Japanese PS games brand new on Ebay for that much in one lot. (Not all that long ago too...and I only bought it for "Legends.")

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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:23 pm

SonEric84 wrote:That's ridiculous, I got all three Japanese PS games brand new on Ebay for that much in one lot. (Not all that long ago too...and I only bought it for "Legends.")
Agreed, I just searched EBay and got multiple hits for cheap. I dunno what the hell he's talking about.

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Post by SonEric84 » Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:25 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
SonEric84 wrote:That's ridiculous, I got all three Japanese PS games brand new on Ebay for that much in one lot. (Not all that long ago too...and I only bought it for "Legends.")
Agreed, I just searched EBay and got multiple hits for cheap. I dunno what the hell he's talking about.

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I know some people market the original American release as rare (one guy had the balls to charge $500, as if it's worth it. :p), but the Japanese ones are going for next to nothing. In fact, I sold the copies of UB22 and Final Bout for like 5 bucks a piece cause I didn't need them.

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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:28 pm

SonEric84 wrote:I know some people market the original American release as rare (one guy had the balls to charge $500, as if it's worth it. :p), but the Japanese ones are going for next to nothing. In fact, I sold the copies of UB22 and Final Bout for like 5 bucks a piece cause I didn't need them.
Sad fact: Final Bout was such a massive failure that, until it was re-released a couple of years back, it was almost rare enough to merit that price tag. Once it was re-released though, it went back to being worth nothing.

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Post by SonEric84 » Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:32 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
SonEric84 wrote:I know some people market the original American release as rare (one guy had the balls to charge $500, as if it's worth it. :p), but the Japanese ones are going for next to nothing. In fact, I sold the copies of UB22 and Final Bout for like 5 bucks a piece cause I didn't need them.
Sad fact: Final Bout was such a massive failure that, until it was re-released a couple of years back, it was almost rare enough to merit that price tag. Once it was re-released though, it went back to being worth nothing.

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Who bought a CD-r copy once in high school, played for 5 minutes and laughed/cried a little

Yeah, I remember back when I saw a review for it in EGM I wanted to get a copy because I had waited so long for a DB related game in the U.S. and I could never find a copy anywhere. When I finally did play, I probably did the same. haha I actually did play UB22 quite a bit back in the day though.


On a side note, I won't be purchasing this set, the only one I might be forced to buy is season 3, then I'll own all of DBZ. Although, I do have it recorded on an old VHS off toonami...

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Post by VegettoEX » Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:27 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:All of Final Bout's massive gameplay failures aside, it did admittedly have an amazing soundtrack, with so many great remixes of classic Butouden themes. The Butouden themes are to me, the only other acceptable replacement music for DBZ. They're almost like the DBZ series score that never was from a parallel reality, if that makes any sense.
Cheers to that. With specific scores for specific characters, moments, and scenes... it really is like an alternate score for the series.
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Post by Shin Moonwalker » Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:54 pm

SonEric84 wrote:I know some people market the original American release as rare (one guy had the balls to charge $500, as if it's worth it. :p)
$500 for one of the worst games ever ? :?
Especially the US version, that had random voices... :?

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Post by TheGreatness25 » Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:04 pm

Back in the day, I didn't even care lol It was good for it's time. Lets not forget when it came out. It was more than just a standard "move forward and back" game. Plus I liked it because it was fricken Dragon Ball! lol I liked Ultimate Battle 22 for the same reason, the roster of characters. Sure, it was a stupid game, but I liked it because of what it was representing. BUT, Dragon Ball Z Legends, EASILY takes the cake. I mean it was such a simple game with not a lot going for it, but God help me, it was SO MUCH FUN! It's still fun. I can still pop it in and enjoy myself more than the repetitive Budokai games where they've been the same game with different button combos and packaging since Budokai 2. Budokai 1 was great because it was something new. Budokai 2 was good because it went deeper than 1. From then, it just rolled on, the moves got simpler and there were less of them, the graphics never changed, and all they do is throw in useless characters. Don't get me wrong, it was great to get Broly or whomever, but really, I don't care that much. In retrospect, it's the same game every year with a couple of new characters thrown in and I, like a stupid lamb, go buy it every year, play it for an hour, and turn it right off.


Oh yeah and Super DBZ sucked donkey nuts. They only had one Super Saiyan transformation and like a laughable amount of characters, and on top of that, when Vegeta doesn't have the Big Bang or Final Flash, that's when you know someone screwed up somewhere.

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Post by VegettoEX » Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:21 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:Oh yeah and Super DBZ sucked donkey nuts. They only had one Super Saiyan transformation and like a laughable amount of characters, and on top of that, when Vegeta doesn't have the Big Bang or Final Flash, that's when you know someone screwed up somewhere.
Did you... ya' know... play the game at all...?
MajinVejitaXV wrote:Agreed, I just searched EBay and got multiple hits for cheap. I dunno what the hell he's talking about.
w0rd. I, to this day, still see the three JP PS1 games on sale at conventions for no more than $20 in new packaging... which is a good deal, since they're labeled as ¥2800 right on the sticker on front.
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Post by TheGreatness25 » Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:27 pm

I have the game. Can't stand to play it.

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Post by NeptuneKai » Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:34 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:I have the game. Can't stand to play it.
Right what REALLY makes a good game is a lot of pointless flashy moves, simplified fighting mechanics and 100 characters that all play the same. Didn't you know Mr.EX?
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Post by Shin Moonwalker » Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:36 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:Oh yeah and Super DBZ sucked donkey nuts.
Ok, so you liked Final Bout, but not Super DBZ ? :roll: :?
They only had one Super Saiyan transformation and like a laughable amount of characters
Well, at least they played differently, unlike the Sparking series and its 160 skins for a single character :roll:

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Post by TheGreatness25 » Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:45 pm

lol Give me a break. The Budokai or Sparking games suck. And Super DBZ sucked. And Sagas sucked. Look, you don't get what I'm saying at all. I don't have fun with those games. It's the same thing over and over again. I don't know why, but I had fun with Legends. The classic Mega Man/Mega Man X collections aren't as flashy as any of the games today. The Mario games are not as flashy as any of the games today. The classic Sonic games are not as flashy as the games today. BUT, I have all of those collections and I have more fun than with a complicated game sometimes. Don't get me wrong, I love my Metal Gear Solids, and I love my Call of Dutys (Call of Duty 4 is AWESOME) and I love my GTAs, and all of the games that make PS3 (what I have), 360 etc great. BUT, those classic games, which are very simple, easy to pick up, they appeal to me sometimes a lot more when I want to just sit back and enjoy a game that I can play for a long time and not get bored. That's my opinion and some should learn to respect others' opinions. Because it's easy to be the big shot when you agree with everyone else, but when you're the one going against the tide, then that's when you'd have your little emotional breakdown when everyone jumps all over you. So please, act a bit more mature than 4 people at a time going, "lol yeah you showed him hahaha his opinion sucks."

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Post by NeptuneKai » Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:52 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote: That's my opinion and some should learn to respect others' opinions. Because it's easy to be the big shot when you agree with everyone else, but when you're the one going against the tide, then that's when you'd have your little emotional breakdown when everyone jumps all over you. So please, act a bit more mature than 4 people at a time going, "lol yeah you showed him hahaha his opinion sucks."
Yeah this whole freedom of speech thing is a bite in the ass huh? Until you want to use it, then everyone should just shut up.
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Post by TheGreatness25 » Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:56 pm

I didn't say don't put in your opinion, I'm saying RESPECT others' opinions. Geez, you really don't read.

You can say what you'd like.
You can say what you don't like.
But when you jump over someone for giving their opinion, or when you call someone's opinion stupid, or something that someone likes stupid, then it's not respecting someones' opinion.

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Post by Smooth Criminal » Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:59 pm

I gotta just chime in and say that I really disliked Super DBZ. For me, a casual gaming fan, it was frustratingly difficult, and a lot of the specials were hard to pull off.

The music was terrible, and it barely had any replay value at all. Only a few characters had super finishers, and while those looked nice it left me wondering why every character didn't have one ...

I'm the type of gamer who plays alone, and so I rely on the single player experience to deliver. The single player here was extremely bare bones, and I found myself bored with it rather quickly. There was no online component, so, that's another aspect where it was a disappointment.

You can argue that the Sparking games are rather simplistic in nature, but I would argue that Sparking 3 has a BUNCH of new techniques and features that are very useful and add a ton of variety to gameplay. They've improved dramatically with each installment, and I totally think that Sparking 3 is the definitive Dragonball Z experience. The argument that "all you do is charge up and throw ki blasts" is no longer applicable. Sure, you CAN do that, but doing so simply means that you're an unskilled player. Just check out this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=4f2v0tSmQgY Better yet, watch all of his videos.

Budokai 3 was great for it's time, but to go back to it now it seems so... limiting. I mean, lack of controllable flight in a DBZ game? Come on. I personally can't go back to that style.

At the very least, it's a LOT more memorable than Super DBZ. That's a game that quite simply belonged solely in the arcades.[/url]
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Post by NeptuneKai » Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:01 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:I didn't say don't put in your opinion, I'm saying RESPECT others' opinions. Geez, you really don't read.

You can say what you'd like.
You can say what you don't like.
But when you jump over someone for giving their opinion, or when you call someone's opinion stupid, or something that someone likes stupid, then it's not respecting someones' opinion.
We never called you stupid we expressed why we disagreed with your opinion and then you jumped down our throats. We never flat out flamed you or called you stupid we explained why your information may or may not be inaccurate or why we disagreed. So basically your whole point is moot unless you want to deny that. In which case I’ll point out by your standards the way you defend YOUR opinion is mere flaming as well. But this is all unrelated to the topic so I will cease this little argument.
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Post by SonEric84 » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:02 pm

Yeah, I didn't see anyone saying anything about someone's opinion sucking. And actually, I agree that the old classic games are much better than the new ones out today. But regardless, Final Bout was still bad. Even the old SNES ones had that beat.

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