The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[supercat]

... The Cold family could arguably outperform any other DBZ / GT fighter in hand to hand combat...

You got a good point, but you really think that Freeza or Cooler could defeat anyone in DB/Z/GT in a battle with equal power terms? I see the androids, Cell and even Boo above since they have more durability and not forgetting to mention their regeneration (Cell, Boo)

The only one out of that bunch who would stand a chance is Buu, thanks to his insane regeneration. Factor that along with his metamorphosis-inducing abilities out of the equation and Frieza trounces him quicker than he would Krillin.

The androids would be blasted into a pile mechanical wreckage before being tossed into a junkyard full of spare parts; that is, if Frieza decides to show a hint of compassion and refrain from incinerating them. Sure, the crafty creations may hold the edge in durability compared to fighters composed of human-like flesh and bones, but in no shape or form would any of them be able to endure and live through what the emperor of evil was subjected to back on Namek.

From a fighting standpoint, no android would really pose a threat to Frieza either; not only do they lack the deadly arsenal that the tyrant wields, but they are also likely unable to execute their movements as dynamically.

Cell would have a better shot, simply because he possesses some of the best traits of universally top-tier fighters. However, in terms of durability and biological built, I feel he is more akin to a Namekian. Additionally, his regeneration seems worlds below that of Buu's, so I don't really see that making a significant difference either.

What would likely happen is, Cell would successfully pull off one round of regeneration, but would be blown to smithereens the second he tries to recover from another debilitating injury. If anyone could scorch every last one of his cells with a single attack, it would be Frieza, with a planet-busting Death Ball.

[Captain Space]

This current discussion gives me an interesting thought:

Who, out of ALL of Dragon Ball, would come out on top of everyone else in an equal-power match?

Feel free to imagine this playing out any of several ways (enormous single-elimination tournament, simple battle royale, successive series of 1v1 matches until everyone has fought everyone else, etc., etc.), but basically, what character has the absolute best combination of fighting skills, intelligence, special techniques and natural abilities, in your opinion?

Obviously people like Freeza, Cell and Buu are being mentioned along similar lines already, but I could see the likes of Whis, Janemba, Boss Rabbit, Akkuman, Vegetto etc. being considered.

(To maintain the equal power thing, this will not take into account techniques and such that solely affect power level like SSJ transformations and Kaioken; however, characters may be considered in whichever form you think would otherwise help, i.e. Vegetto in base for maximum energy conservation, Freeza in whichever form is biologically the most advantageous, Janemba would probably be at his best in his final form due to his more focused personality, and the various abilities gained by Goku in Super Saiyan God.)

[LightBing]

1st - Super Boo
2nd - Pure Boo
3rd - Other Boo
4th - Janemba
5th - Infinite Energy Androids
6th - Whis
7th - Vegetto

It doesn't matter how good of a fighter one is, you can't beat infinite power. At least if you don't came prepared. This list is if one has minimal information, give the regular flesh and bone warriors some scouting reports and they will do better. I might put Whis above the Androids but I haven't seen enough of him to truly gasp his strength. He could be stronger than one at same power level, the same way Mr.Popo dominated Goku when the latter climbed to Kai's temple.

[Saiga]

Skill would take a maaaaaassive backseat to things like magical powers and things like regeneration, I'd say Janemba as his reality warping would be pretty potent.

[Captain Space]

He could be stronger than one at same power level, the same way Mr.Popo dominated Goku when the latter climbed to Kai's temple.

Wasn't Popo also stronger though?

[supercat]

The Buus and the androids are overrated in my opinion; SSJ3 Goku, who at the most was a notch higher than Kid Buu, could have wiped him out had he felt inclined to do so. That to me is a clear indication that any concentrated attack with a potent source of power would suffice in trumping the latter's regeneration, even at nearly parallel power levels.

To further elaborate on my previous post, Frieza not only executes his attacks with unrivaled dynamics, his arsenal is flooded with some of the series' deadliest attacks. I could totally envision a Death Ball or Supernova launched with precision obliterating any form of Buu; the seemingly invincible Majin would struggle as he did with the Spirit Bomb before ultimately succumbing to the incinerating effect of the tyrant's planet-busting force.

While the androids may be gifted with durability that likely far outshines any human-like fighter, in no shape or form does that mean they could withstand the same degree of brutality that Frieza was subjected to back on Namek. There have been a number of instances where the androids have exposed less-than-ideal resilience; Gero, 16, and 19 have all been shown that they could easily be picked apart and/or dismembered. I also don't subscribe to the belief that 17 and 18's infinite stamina is a hall pass to victory. Sure, they could fight on for hours, but what benefit does that yield if they're either sliced in half or reduced to a pile of scrap metal within the first few minutes?

With the exclusion of Whis, Fifth Form Cooler, and Meta-Cooler, I'd say Frieza in his first or final form (not bulked up) would likely be the top contender, as these forms would grant him the stamina necessitated to last long enough to get in a shot with his signature finishers.

I personally believe that Whis stands in a level of his own that simply cannot be trounced through normal means; meaning, unless Frieza really has something artful up his sleeve, he'll always be a step behind. The former's graceful ability to maneuver around at the absence of thought is a major asset that dynamics and planet-busting attacks alone won't even leave a dent in.

Cooler has already demonstrated better tactical prowess than Frieza; assuming his durability and such are identical to his brother's he should be able to rely on his strategically cunning tendencies to come out as the victor in this sibling rivalry.

When all is said and done, my top three contenders are as follows:

1. Whis
2. Cooler - Meta-Cooler / Fifth Form Cooler
3. Frieza - First Form / Final Form

[Kamiccolo9]

And what's stopping Buu from turning Freeza into a Snickers again? I feel like that's a far more likely outcome than Freeza managing to Death Ball him, assuming that would even work.

[Hellspawn28]

So who is the strongest 28th Tenkachi Budokai Uub can beat? When he got angry at Goku, Goku started to get serious. Goku at the end of DBZ is much stronger then he would be in Super.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

So who is the strongest 28th Tenkachi Budokai Uub can beat? When he got angry at Goku, Goku started to get serious. Goku at the end of DBZ is much stronger then he would be in Super.

I don't go by Oob being god tier, the strongest person he can beat for me is Innocent Boo, but he'd need some sort of Kiai or Ki blast which I doubt he can do, so SS2 Goku or Vegeta.

[supercat]

And what's stopping Buu from turning Freeza into a Snickers again? I feel like that's a far more likely outcome than Freeza managing to Death Ball him, assuming that would even work.

Given Buu's track record and obsessive lust for battle, I'm apt to believe that he would initially engage in hand to hand combat before even considering the usage of metamorphosis-inducing abilities.

Goku merely sat a tier above Kid Buu, yet apparently possessed the capability to secure victory with a single blast; I'm pretty confident that Frieza, one of the most impressive users of ki-based attacks could do the same with a devastating force like the Death Ball.

My guess is that the two would start things off with a clash of physical attacks and an occasional exchange of ki blasts. Buu being the more reckless fighter of the two would likely play the role of a punching bag while going through enough rounds of regeneration for Frieza to catch on and kick it up a notch with his ki exertion.

[Hellspawn28]

Majin Super Hatchiyack vs. Majin Vegeta

Who wins?

[Captain Space]

I'm pretty confident that Freeza, one of the most impressive users of ki-based attacks

Okay, in what way is Freeza this supposed absolute master of ki attacks? He can do a big ol' ball of energy, pretty sure it's only planet-busting because he's naturally that strong. He can do slice-y things, so can Krillin, #18, Goku...he can do homing/directed attacks...Goku's Kamehameha can do that, so did Krillin's Saibaman-triple-kill blast, and to an extent Piccolo's trap for #17.

I dunno...he can shoot...beams from his eyes (and maybe only in the anime)? Pretty sure most of them could do that if they wanted. Piccolo does, on occasion.

So that leaves his exploding-paralysis-ball-thing. Which is pretty impressive. But it's basically the only unique one I'm seeing, and even then, Goku was able to escape taking any real damage while using around Freeza's level at the time (again, barring anime-only scenes where Freeza knocked him around some first).

So all in all, I don't really see it.

(His insane durability and survivability coupled with an extra limb, sure, but I'm not so sure about this particular aspect. Plus prior to F he never trained a day in his life, so he's just brawling.)

[Kamiccolo9]

And what's stopping Buu from turning Freeza into a Snickers again? I feel like that's a far more likely outcome than Freeza managing to Death Ball him, assuming that would even work.

Given Buu's track record and obsessive lust for battle, I'm apt to believe that he would initially engage in hand to hand combat before even considering the usage of metamorphosis-inducing abilities.

Goku merely sat a tier above Kid Buu, yet apparently possessed the capability to secure victory with a single blast; I'm pretty confident that Freeza, one of the most impressive users of ki-based attacks could do the same with a devastating force like the Death Ball.

My guess is that the two would start things off with a clash of physical attacks and an occasional exchange of ki blasts. Buu being the more reckless fighter of the two would likely play the role of a punching bag while going through enough rounds of regeneration for Freeza to catch on and kick it up a notch with his ki exertion.

A clash of physical attacks in which Buu would be unscathed and Freeza hurt. That tends to happen when one has essentially infinite stamina and virtually unlimited regeneration.

The majority of Freeza's attacks are totally ineffectual against Buu. Buu doesn't care if he gets sliced in half, or pierced. And I'm not convinced that a Death Ball would do any more than blow Buu to pieces, which, again, he doesn't care about. A Death Ball is not a Genki Dama, nor have Freeza's ki amplification abilities been particularly impressive. Besides, Buu can do the exact same thing, and, depending on the Buu, is more apt to just open up with that than Freeza.

Finally, Buu simply has way more insta-kill attacks than Freeza. He could absorb him, turn him to candy, fly down his throat and make him explode, constrict him, or just mimic Freeza's attacks back at him, after Freeza tries cutting him in half with a Kienzan.

You keep bringing up Freeza's skills, but they are completely irrelevant here. You can't win a fistfight with Buu when you are on the same level as him, and Freeza's techniques aren't the kind that would actually threaten Buu. And for the one attack that might, might, prove a threat, Buu has at least two ways that would instantly win the fight for him, and neither require any kind of charge-up time on his part. Hell, one of the smarter Buus can just leave a piece of him lying over by a rock somewhere just in case Freeza gets lucky.

[Khin]

Your favorite character in DB/DBZ/DBS runs the Goku gaunlet:

1: Beginning of Dragon Ball
2: 21st Budokai
3: Red Ribbon Army Saga
4: 22nd Budokai
5: Piccolo Daimao Saga
6: 23rd Budokai
7: Beginning of Dragon Ball Z
8: Saiyan Saga
9: Namek Arrival
10: Freeza Saga
11: Yardrat
12: Android Saga
13: Cell Games
14: Buu Saga
15: Current

Round 1: Goku is in-character.
Round 2: Goku is bloodlusted.

Note:If your favorite character is Goku,then your second favorite character will run the gaunlet instead.

[ZombieVito]

Your favorite character in DB/DBZ/DBS runs the Goku gaunlet:

1: Beginning of Dragon Ball
2: 21st Budokai
3: Red Ribbon Army Saga
4: 22nd Budokai
5: Piccolo Daimao Saga
6: 23rd Budokai
7: Beginning of Dragon Ball Z
8: Saiyan Saga
9: Namek Arrival
10: Freeza Saga
11: Yardrat
12: Android Saga
13: Cell Games
14: Buu Saga
15: Current

Round 1: Goku is in-character.
Round 2: Goku is bloodlusted.

Note:If your favorite character is Goku,then your second favorite character will run the gaunlet instead.

Well Piccolo would finger flick everyone from 1-12. Depending on what happens with him in DBS he could clear 13 and 14.

[DBZAOTA482]

Your favorite character in DB/DBZ/DBS runs the Goku gaunlet:

1: Beginning of Dragon Ball
2: 21st Budokai
3: Red Ribbon Army Saga
4: 22nd Budokai
5: Piccolo Daimao Saga
6: 23rd Budokai
7: Beginning of Dragon Ball Z
8: Saiyan Saga
9: Namek Arrival
10: Freeza Saga
11: Yardrat
12: Android Saga
13: Cell Games
14: Buu Saga
15: Current

Round 1: Goku is in-character.
Round 2: Goku is bloodlusted.

Note:If your favorite character is Goku,then your second favorite character will run the gaunlet instead.

Vegeta clears the gauntlet.

[Lord Beerus]

Your favorite character in DB/DBZ/DBS runs the Goku gaunlet:

1: Beginning of Dragon Ball
2: 21st Budokai
3: Red Ribbon Army Saga
4: 22nd Budokai
5: Piccolo Daimao Saga
6: 23rd Budokai
7: Beginning of Dragon Ball Z
8: Saiyan Saga
9: Namek Arrival
10: Freeza Saga
11: Yardrat
12: Android Saga
13: Cell Games
14: Buu Saga
15: Current

Round 1: Goku is in-character.
Round 2: Goku is bloodlusted.

Note:If your favorite character is Goku,then your second favorite character will run the gaunlet instead.

Beerus clears the gauntlet with ease.

[Captain Space]

Your favorite character in DB/DBZ/DBS runs the Goku gaunlet:

1: Beginning of Dragon Ball
2: 21st Budokai
3: Red Ribbon Army Saga
4: 22nd Budokai
5: Piccolo Daimao Saga
6: 23rd Budokai
7: Beginning of Dragon Ball Z
8: Saiyan Saga
9: Namek Arrival
10: Freeza Saga
11: Yardrat
12: Android Saga
13: Cell Games
14: Buu Saga
15: Current

Round 1: Goku is in-character.
Round 2: Goku is bloodlusted.

Note:If your favorite character is Goku,then your second favorite character will run the gaunlet instead.

Beerus clears the gauntlet with ease.

Same here.

[Lunatic Fringe]

Your favorite character in DB/DBZ/DBS runs the Goku gaunlet:

1: Beginning of Dragon Ball
2: 21st Budokai
3: Red Ribbon Army Saga
4: 22nd Budokai
5: Piccolo Daimao Saga
6: 23rd Budokai
7: Beginning of Dragon Ball Z
8: Saiyan Saga
9: Namek Arrival
10: Freeza Saga
11: Yardrat
12: Android Saga
13: Cell Games
14: Buu Saga
15: Current

Round 1: Goku is in-character.
Round 2: Goku is bloodlusted.

Note:If your favorite character is Goku,then your second favorite character will run the gaunlet instead.

Stage 1. Turtle never had a chance.

But seriously, Piccolo stops at Stage 13.

[DBZAOTA482]

Krillin/Yamcha (23rd Budokai) vs. Piccolo Daimao