The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by EXBadguy » Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:29 pm

Saitama vs Beerus and Champa.

Come on, you know somebody had to ask this.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by pacz360 » Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:39 pm

EXBadguy wrote:Saitama vs Beerus and Champa.

Come on, you know somebody had to ask this.
Saitama gets stomped to oblivion.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:54 pm

Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku vs Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 3 Grade 3 Goku - Super Kamehameha clash

How big of a difference would using both SS3 & SSG3 on top of SSGSS do you think it would make? Do you think the stamina issues that SS3 & SSG3 have would give advantage to SSGSS Goku in this case?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:57 pm

EXBadguy wrote:Saitama vs Beerus and Champa.

Come on, you know somebody had to ask this.
As of right now Saitama is nothing to these characters. He is prob goku during Vegeta arc at best. His feats are impressive but as of now. He is nothing to any of the major dbz characters. They're is only a couple Animes that could rival or easily surpass dbz. Such as Saint Seiya, Bastard, sailor moon, maybe Vampire Hunter D, and Animes with characters that can alter reality.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:01 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku vs Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 3 Grade 3 Goku - Super Kamehameha clash

How big of a difference would using both SS3 & SSG3 on top of SSGSS do you think it would make? Do you think the stamina issues that SS3 & SSG3 have would give advantage to SSGSS Goku in this case?
Well if we go by dbz logic of the past ssj blue ssj3 could slaughter the first form. However stamina would drain much quicker then the first form. So ssj3 needs to eliminate the ssj as quickly as he can or he is done

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sandubadear » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:59 pm

EXBadguy wrote:Saitama vs Beerus and Champa.

Come on, you know somebody had to ask this.
Beerus destroys the planet and wins, since he can survive in space.
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku vs Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 3 Grade 3 Goku - Super Kamehameha clash

How big of a difference would using both SS3 & SSG3 on top of SSGSS do you think it would make? Do you think the stamina issues that SS3 & SSG3 have would give advantage to SSGSS Goku in this case?
"SSGSS3G3" would be so strong that with only 50%, he would kill the other one even before the stamina issues kicked in.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:21 pm

EXBadguy wrote:Saitama vs Beerus and Champa.

Come on, you know somebody had to ask this.
Beerus flings Saitama to outer space with his pinky finger.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:31 pm

Black [Battle Jacket] vs Tao Pai Pai.
Murasaki vs Yamcha [21st TB].
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:31 pm

Zombie wrote:Black [Battle Jacket] vs Tao Pai Pai.
Good fight, but I'd give it to Battle Jacket, as I think he's slightly stronger.
Zombie wrote:Murasaki vs Yamcha [21st TB].
Yamcha gets Yamcha'd. Murasaki could somewhat keep up with Goku's speed.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:43 am

EXBadguy wrote:Saitama vs Beerus and Champa.

Come on, you know somebody had to ask this.
Saitama gets xeleestomped.Currently,he is only Nappa to Saiyan Saga Vegeta level at the best.
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-Bucollo takes this due to intellegence.
-Freeza reverts to his Final Form and finger flicked Goku.
-Base God Goku would finger flick him.
-Final Form Freeza was able to keep up with Base God Goku.Regeneration here is pointless since the gap between their power is way bigger than the gap between Super Vegetto and Buuhan.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Noah » Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:01 pm

I don't think SBG Goku and FF Freeza (RoF) are above Super Vegetto, IMHO
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:08 pm

Krillin (Freeza saga) vs. Piccolo (Freeza saga)

[Krillin is at the start of the Freeza fight, Piccolo is pre-Nail assimilation. No Kienzan shenanigans. Who wins?]

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by singsing » Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:09 pm

Wait, Saitama can survive in space too apparently lol. He jumped from the moon back to the Earth. Not saying he wouldn't get xeeleestomped by Beerus taking a fart in his general direction, but yea.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sora Saiyan » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:23 pm

EXBadguy wrote:Saitama vs Beerus and Champa.

Come on, you know somebody had to ask this.
Beerus sneezes in Saitama's direction and kills him.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LightBing » Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:00 pm

Zombie wrote:Black [Battle Jacket] vs Tao Pai Pai.
Murasaki vs Yamcha [21st TB].
30%/70% - The Battle Jacket could hurt Goku, who's stronger than Tao Pai Pai. But because it's controlled by a weaker person, who I think would have difficulty catching up to the assassin moves. The power advantage become secondary. With patience, Tao Pai Pai would win more often than lose.

40%/60% - I'm analyzing this fight if both of them are barehanded. Since if Murasaki has his weapons and environment advantage, he stomps. They're pretty close power wise. The ninja seemed kinda goofy, he would have trouble in a head-to-head since he specializes in escaping and trapping. However at that point, Yamcha is little more than a strong guy, without any special training.
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Krillin (Freeza saga) vs. Piccolo (Freeza saga)
100%/0% - Kuririn should be reaching the 100.000 since he was classified useful, before the fight against First Form Freeza. I don't have Piccolo above 70.000. The power gap makes this fight a one side beat-down.

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:46 pm

Zombie wrote:Black [Battle Jacket] vs Tao Pai Pai.
Murasaki vs Yamcha [21st TB].
That laser was blowing holes in thick concrete walls while also producing conflagration great enough to burn a 3x3 hole in the ground near the concrete. If he hits Tao once, Tao dies. In the worst case scenario Black can just launch that nuke at the ground to score a draw, but I doubt he'd need to...

Murasaki didn't actually show non-gag superpowers, did he?
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Post by In Brightest Day » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:28 am

A couple of fights here:

- SSJ Future Trunks vs. Piccolo at the Cell Games.
- SSJ Future Trunks (vs. Imperfect Cell) vs. Piccolo (Buu arc).
- SSJ Son Goten vs. Shisami.
- Jaco vs. Tarble.
- Videl & Mr. Satan (25th Budokai) vs. Spopovich.
- Piccolo, Tien, Krillin & Yamcha (Saiyan arc) vs. 3 Namekian warriors.

If Avo and Cado were present during Revival of F and fought the Z-Fighters alongside Freeza's army (and fused into Aka from the start, entering the battle alongside Shisami) would the fight have changed significantly?
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In Brightest Day wrote:A couple of fights here:

- SSJ Future Trunks vs. Piccolo at the Cell Games.
- SSJ Future Trunks (vs. Imperfect Cell) vs. Piccolo (Buu arc).
- SSJ Son Goten vs. Shisami.
- Jaco vs. Tarble.
- Videl & Mr. Satan (25th Budokai) vs. Spopovich.
- Piccolo, Tenshinhan, Krillin & Yamcha vs. 3 Namekian warriors.

If Avo and Cado were present during Revival of F and fought the Z-Fighters alongside Freeza's army (and fused into Aka from the start, entering the battle alongside Shisami) would the fight have changed significantly?
Trunks takes this with mild difficulty.
Equals. Piccolo takes this after a long battle.
Goten wins with ease.
Hard to tell. I give this to Tarble.
Spopovitch murders them both with ease.
Piccolo alone could beat one Namekian, with the help of the Earthlings he finishes the 3 of them.
Aka would've just been one shotted by Piccolo.

New fight:

Ultimate Gohan vs Final form Freeza [RoF].

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Post by DanielSSJ » Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:38 am

Zombie wrote:Ultimate Gohan vs Final form Freeza [RoF].
First Form Freeza might have trouble. Final Form Freeza oneshots him.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:21 am

Zombie wrote:
In Brightest Day wrote:A couple of fights here:

- SSJ Future Trunks vs. Piccolo at the Cell Games.
- SSJ Future Trunks (vs. Imperfect Cell) vs. Piccolo (Buu arc).
- SSJ Son Goten vs. Shisami.
- Jaco vs. Tarble.
- Videl & Mr. Satan (25th Budokai) vs. Spopovich.
- Piccolo, Tenshinhan, Krillin & Yamcha vs. 3 Namekian warriors.

If Avo and Cado were present during Revival of F and fought the Z-Fighters alongside Freeza's army (and fused into Aka from the start, entering the battle alongside Shisami) would the fight have changed significantly?
Trunks takes this with mild difficulty.
Equals. Piccolo takes this after a long battle.
Goten wins with ease.
Hard to tell. I give this to Tarble.
Spopovitch murders them both with ease.
Piccolo alone could beat one Namekian, with the help of the Earthlings he finishes the 3 of them.
Aka would've just been one shotted by Piccolo.

New fight:

Ultimate Gohan vs Final form Freeza [RoF].
There's really no indication where Freeza's lower forms lie, other than that his 1st form is much stronger than SS Gohan, but not by an incomprehensibly enormous amount. With that in mind, I peg final form Freeza around Ultimate Gohan's level because... well, just because. Well, that and I think it's appropriate if base Goku is basically "Ultimate" now, except with SSGSS on top of that. So, it could go either way; I'm leaning slightly towards Freeza.
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Zombie wrote:Ultimate Gohan vs Final form Freeza [RoF].
First Form Freeza might have trouble.
First form Freeza being stronger than even Cell isn't substantiated by anything in the movie.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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