Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Post by FPSSJ4_Goku » Mon Jan 03, 2022 9:44 am

PurestEvil wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:32 am
Gt91 wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:18 am Dragon Ball Super Super Hero promo material

https://twitter.com/DBSChronicles/statu ... 46/photo/1

Gohan: has latent power even more than his father, Goku?


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"In 2022, this will be the MOST TALKED ABOUT MOVIE"
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Post by WittyUsername » Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:35 pm

“The most talked about movie of 2022”

I imagine this isn’t even the most talked about anime movie of 2022, much less the most talked about overall.

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Post by PurestEvil » Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:08 pm

WittyUsername wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:35 pm “The most talked about movie of 2022”

I imagine this isn’t even the most talked about anime movie of 2022, much less the most talked about overall.
No Way Home will still be more talked about than 99% of Japanese films, let alone DBSSH
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Post by Mr_CINDER » Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:51 am

PurestEvil wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:08 pm
WittyUsername wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:35 pm “The most talked about movie of 2022”

I imagine this isn’t even the most talked about anime movie of 2022, much less the most talked about overall.
No Way Home will still be more talked about than 99% of Japanese films, let alone DBSSH
I may be wrong but it seems you are really triggered by this, but in my honest opinion they are just like goku no matter how big the challange is he is always excited and will break his limit, love this attitude. It dosent matter how much the movie will earn because at the end of the day DB is one of the highest grossing media franchise in history that is equal with batman and used to equal with spider man but after the no way home spider man franchise revenue increased. This is the current standing-
Spiderman- 31.5 billion
Batman- 27.7 billion
Dragon Ball- 27.7 billion
SO I think they meant DB as a media franchise again earn billions this year and will be most talked.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Post by LightBing » Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:10 am

That line is nothing more than a marketing tool. I don't understand why people are talking so much about it.
Never saw a product claim it's the best ever?

My expectations for this movie are way higher than they were for Broly. Really hope I'm not disappointed.
The apparent lightness of the plot and relevance of old and new characters; it's much more enticing than Old villain is back and remastered.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Post by PurestEvil » Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:46 am

Mr_CINDER wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:51 am
PurestEvil wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:08 pm
WittyUsername wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:35 pm “The most talked about movie of 2022”

I imagine this isn’t even the most talked about anime movie of 2022, much less the most talked about overall.
No Way Home will still be more talked about than 99% of Japanese films, let alone DBSSH
I may be wrong but it seems you are really triggered by this
I was only mocking the extremely hyperbolic marketing pitch...
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Post by Jord » Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:13 am

LightBing wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:10 am That line is nothing more than a marketing tool. I don't understand why people are talking so much about it.
Never saw a product claim it's the best ever?

My expectations for this movie are way higher than they were for Broly. Really hope I'm not disappointed.
The apparent lightness of the plot and relevance of old and new characters; it's much more enticing than Old villain is back and remastered.
We've all seen marketing slogans and story-related slogans can be intriguing but this slogan is so bizarrely over the top it deserves the mockery.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Post by Mr_CINDER » Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:14 am

LightBing wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:10 am That line is nothing more than a marketing tool. I don't understand why people are talking so much about it.
Never saw a product claim it's the best ever?

My expectations for this movie are way higher than they were for Broly. Really hope I'm not disappointed.
The apparent lightness of the plot and relevance of old and new characters; it's much more enticing than Old villain is back and remastered.
Keep your expectations low and you will never be disappointed.

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Post by Mr_CINDER » Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:45 am

It seems Gohan is the main character of this movie https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1478183076178149376.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Post by Gt91 » Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:44 am

Mr_CINDER wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:45 am It seems Gohan is the main character of this movie https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1478183076178149376.
Great news for me!

Iyoku says Toriyama started on Super Hero’s script back before DBS: Broly came out. It’s meant as a change of pace from the universe-scale battles of Broly and whatnot, with the story instead focusing on a threat to Earth, and Gohan+Piccolo rather than Goku+Vegeta.

Which probably means that we'll see Goku/Vegeta/Broly only on Beerus's planet .

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Post by PurestEvil » Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:50 am

Mr_CINDER wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:45 am It seems Gohan is the main character of this movie https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1478183076178149376.
Seems like the film's direction is in good hands.
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Post by Mr_CINDER » Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:20 am

PurestEvil wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:50 am
Mr_CINDER wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:45 am It seems Gohan is the main character of this movie https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1478183076178149376.
Seems like the film's direction is in good hands.
Absolutely but the only thing that is bothering me is comical villain part ,I hope this dosent turn off worldwide casual audience.

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Post by TheSaiyanGod » Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:41 am

LoganForkHands73 wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:08 pm Yeah, it does feel stale for them to be emphasising Gohan again like "don't worry guys, THIS TIME he's gonna be super important and central to the plot". That worked alright for the anime's Tournament of Power, and although that arc developed him decently, he still didn't get the amount of attention some people expected (and many were just pissed that he didn't get a significant power-up or a W against Jiren, which he frankly didn't need or deserve). Then after being completely absent for Broly and most of the Moro arc, he gets another token "he's back" moment later in that arc only for him to do nothing substantial.
Although I thought the Earthlings role in Moro arc felt mostly like padding, I at least liked how it didn't treat Gohan fighting again as a big deal or something "shocking". He remains focused on his personal life, but he is still in shape and ready to defend Earth whenever necessary. It wasn't a big role but it wasn't again the attempt to give him a "triumphal comeback".

And I think that should be the direction to take with the character if Toriyama intends to just sporadically give him standout moments rather than making him return permanently to the main cast. No need to keep reusing the same plot points from the ToP or trying to say "no, now he's back for real!", he's already learned not to neglect his training because he's Earth's main defender when Goku and Vegeta are out, he doesn't need to go through all that development again, and that was his role in Moro arc. Not sure how the new movie will treat him, it remains to be seen, but I hope it's something along these lines.

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Post by Mr_CINDER » Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:56 am

iyoku also said There's also a chance that something other than this movie will be coming this year which I am guesssing that meant anime maybe? https://en.dragon-ball-official.com/news/01_770.html. But since he mentions "chance" it could depend on how much the movie will make

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Post by ZeroNeonix » Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:22 am

Mr_CINDER wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:56 am iyoku also said There's also a chance that something other than this movie will be coming this year which I am guesssing that meant anime maybe? https://en.dragon-ball-official.com/news/01_770.html. But since he mentions "chance" it could depend on how much the movie will make
It would be about time... We have two manga arcs that haven't been adapted yet. Although the movies have already skipped those, so maybe they'll just pretend the manga never happened, like Ghost Busters Afterlife did with the 2016 reboot.

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Post by Mr_CINDER » Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:03 pm

ZeroNeonix wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:22 am
Mr_CINDER wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:56 am iyoku also said There's also a chance that something other than this movie will be coming this year which I am guesssing that meant anime maybe? https://en.dragon-ball-official.com/news/01_770.html. But since he mentions "chance" it could depend on how much the movie will make
It would be about time... We have two manga arcs that haven't been adapted yet. Although the movies have already skipped those, so maybe they'll just pretend the manga never happened, like Ghost Busters Afterlife did with the 2016 reboot.
Yep that could happen because The quality of episode 5(DBS) was so bad that even japan complained about that, so this must be the decision from higherups to properly make two manga arcs and adapt, or who knows from now on DB will only get movie treatment.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Post by fleahop » Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:47 pm

I'm so freaking pumped for this. It just keeps getting better imo.

I also love the idea of Gohan and Piccolo going against RR Army which may have sins of the father undertones (kid Goku merked left and right) which are sorely begging to be addressed. Though you have to question how many people really remember that. Then again, their paying audience probably does remember that as I imagine only hardcore DB fans will be going to theaters for this.

Even if they don't do that, it's really neat to kinda have a mix of themes here. You have OG dragon ball with proper RR Army, not just Gero. There's also Gohan and Piccolo with little Son Pan kinda like early DBZ with Raditz. Then Pan herself being the key to the future of the series and all that entails.

Also as far as the "the most talked about movie of 2022" marketing tag? Guys stop getting so bent out of shape and hating on the product you love. It's odd. So many other movies do this exact same thing here in then West on commercials even when they're C movie trash. It's just marketing like others have said.

I really hope to see Gohan get angry and then instead of letting loose I want to see him have to control his anger and not destroy the person because Pan is there, to show his daughter he's the hero.

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:13 pm

Good call from the director to ask for Gohan vs Gamma 1 to be in the rain. Variety is welcome. We're lacking fights in the rain and also during sunsets.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Post by Super Saiyan Swagger » Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:31 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:13 pm Good call from the director to ask for Gohan vs Gamma 1 to be in the rain. Variety is welcome. We're lacking fights in the rain and also during sunsets.
These last couple of movies have changed up the scenery where fights take place, which I really appreciate. Fight in the rain, fight in lava, fight in the dark while Shenron is summoned and a fight in a broken pocket dimension of abstract shapes and colours. It's been awesome.

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Post by Gt91 » Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:28 am

FortuneSSJ wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:13 pm Good call from the director to ask for Gohan vs Gamma 1 to be in the rain. Variety is welcome. We're lacking fights in the rain and also during sunsets.
I agree. I'd like to see a father and son kamehameha scenario as well, but with Piccolo (masenko and makankosappo against the main antagonist, similar to the Cell saga).

About the story, what if the RR kidnapped Pan? The last trailer suggested me this situation:

- pan is training with Piccolo
- Gamma 2 shows up with the RR army and kidnapp her
- Gohan goes to their base and gets mad.
- He gains a new transformation (following Kai's path, something beyond ultimate form) etc.

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