The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Darkron2151]

- SSJ Grade 2 Goku (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell
- SSJ Grade 2 Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Full Power Perfect Cell
- SSJ Grade 3 Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell Power Weighted
- Rage Boost SSJ2 Gohan (Boo Arc) vs. Majin SSJ2 Vegeta
- Golden Freeza vs. Final Form Frost
- SSJ3 Goku (Universe 6 Arc) x Beerus (60% Full Power)
- SSGSS Goku or/and Vegeta (Post RoSaT) vs. Champa (Full Power)
- SSGSS Goku or/and Vegeta (Post RoSaT) vs. Beerus (Full Power)

1. Cell still has a big advantage in power. I don't see this Goku even beating his Buu Arc SSJ self (whom I have weaker than Cell anyway).

2. Gohan stands a much better chance against Cell than his father from the above match, but still loses due to Cell's better techniques, regen, and stamina issues from Grade 2.

3. Grade 3 would make Gohan almost as strong as his enraged SSJ2 self, which completely trashes Cell. Gohan wins, as both have speed problems.

4. The context of Goku saying Gohan could beat "anyone" was him beating Dabura. And Majin Vegeta was stated twice to be slightly stronger than enraged SSJ2 Gohan. Factor in Gohan's rustines with Vegeta's tactical mind and Vegeta wins with mid-high difficulty.

5. Too early to tell. However, Freeza seems far more cunning and much more tenacious in battle. I'll give it to him for now.

6. Again, too early to tell. I'm just glad they got rid of the Blue look.

7. Both Vegeta and Goku in ROF were stated to be a match for Beerus together. Pretty sre with 3+ years of additional training since then and Champa being weaker, I give it to the Saiyans 7/10 times.

8. Er....Goku and Vegeta. 6/10 times though.

[dbgtFO]

- SSJ Grade 2 Goku (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell,
- SSJ Grade 2 Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Full Power Perfect Cell
- SSJ Grade 3 Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell Power Weighted

I follow the logic, that Super Saiyan Full Power is the Super Saiyan form, but with the same power or more than what Grade 3 offers, so if Goku and Gohan were to use the muscly forms they'd end up weaker than their Cell Games selves, meaning Cell would get an easy victory.

- Rage Boost SSJ2 Gohan (Boo Arc) vs. Majin SSJ2 Vegeta

Vegeta is stronger and smarter, so he wears down Gohan, before securing the win.

- Golden Freeza vs. Final Form Frost

Impossible to tell, but I'm going to go with Freeza here, as I assume he's stronger until otherwise stated.

- SSJ3 Goku (Universe 6 Arc) x Beerus (60% Full Power)

I reckon Goku should have enough power to surpass Beerus here, but he has a problem with his stamina and Beerus can destroy the planet at any point, so Beerus to win.

- SSGSS Goku or/and Vegeta (Post RoSaT) vs. Champa (Full Power)

Champa is stronger until stated otherwise, but if the two of them can give an even fight against Beerus by working together, then so should they do so to Champa. Champa however would just nuke the planet, if he gets into trouble, so Champa.

- SSGSS Goku or/and Vegeta (Post RoSaT) vs. Beerus (Full Power)

Same as with Champa.

[apex_pretador]

New matches:

- SSJ Grade 2 Goku (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell

- SSJ Grade 2 Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Full Power Perfect Cell

- SSJ Grade 3 Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell Power Weighted

- Rage Boost SSJ2 Gohan (Boo Arc) vs. Majin SSJ2 Vegeta
Note: Goku says that when angry Gohan could defeat anyone he wants was he including himself and Vegeta? (before he acknowledge Majin Boo power)

- Golden Freeza vs. Final Form Frost

- SSJ3 Goku (Universe 6 Arc) x Beerus (60% Full Power)

- SSGSS Goku or/and Vegeta (Post RoSaT) vs. Champa (Full Power)

- SSGSS Goku or/and Vegeta (Post RoSaT) vs. Beerus (Full Power)

A weaker goku vs cell? Unfair

A weaker gohan vs cell? again unfair

He loses to regular perfect cell pretty easily

Majin vegeta >>> SS2 gohan. The difference is just too big to be overcome.

Who knows? We didn't even see the battle

SS3 is just your full potential by saiyan limits. He must be stronger than 70% beerus IMO, let alone 60%.

Team takes this if champa doesn't blow the planet up & teamwork is perfect

Beerus barely

A few more equal battle power fights :

- Android #16 vs. Son Goku (23rd Budokai).
- Lord Beerus vs. Vegetto.
- LSSJ Broly vs. Nappa.
- Future Trunks (Cell Games) vs. Yamcha (Cell Games).
- Son Goten (25th Budokai) vs. Nam.
- Kid Buu vs. Piccolo (Buu arc).
- Paikuhan vs. Tenshinhan (Revival of F).

- #16 is literally made to kill goku. He knows his techniques etc. He has infinite stamina and an inbuilt scouter. At worst, he has a bomb infinitely stronger than himself. His hells flash is strong as hell.
No chance for goku, literally.

- Beerus stomps. No explanation needed

- Nappa. Broly is overrated idiot

- Yamcha. More calm, and Future trunks - better track record at equal PLs, saiyan toughness and armour on body.

- Goten, and it isn't even fair. He can fly, shoot ki blasts and has saiyan toughness.

- Kid buu just blows the planet up. If the PLs are too low for that, then kid buu barely takes this because he can just copy any attack piccolo uses once. He can regenerate better, he can dish more damage out etc.

- Pikkon lost to goku at even PLs , Tien won. Also, neither strikes me as a smart fighter. Tien, just for being a badass.

- Son Goten (25th Budokai) < Nam.

- Nam due to Goten having almost no experience or skill whatsoever.
So with new spoilers.Here's some matches.
- Botamo vs. Base Goku (BOG Arc,Post God)
- First Form Frost vs. SSjG Goku
- Third Form Frost vs. Final Form Freeza (Post Training)
- SSj Goku (Champa Arc) vs. SSj Blue Goku (ROF Arc)
- SSj Blue Goku (Champa Arc) vs. Golden Freeza (No stamina issues)

How the hell nam beats goten? Goten can fly & shoot strong ki blast. He also has natural saiyan toughness. Also, he was thinking moves on the go as seen in his fight vs trunks.

- Buyon botamo wins

- Goku one-shots

- Frost asks freeza if he wants to quit & go live in peace, but freeza destroys the planet, laughing maniacally thinking that he won. However, frost can also survive in space, and he finds freeza and kills him.

- Goku SSb

- Goldie wins. He always has his trump card- survival in space

[Hellspawn28]

Vegito vs. Buuhan (No candy beam or absorbing). Base on what we seen so far, who wins?

[ZombieVito]

Piccolo [vs Nappa] vs Oozaru Gohan [vs Vegeta; Injured].

No tail cutting or blowing up the moon.

[Khin]

How the hell nam beats goten? Goten can fly & shoot strong ki blast. He also has natural saiyan toughness. Also, he was thinking moves on the go as seen in his fight vs trunks.

Flying that doesn't mean anything,it just mean that Goten can run away if he start to lose.And where does Goten shown to be able to do an amplified Ki blast ? Thinking movies that doesn't mean anything if you're opponent have way better skills and experience that you.

Vegito vs. Buuhan (No candy beam or absorbing). Base on what we seen so far, who wins?

Even base Vegetto finger flicks.

Piccolo [vs Nappa] vs Oozaru Gohan [vs Vegeta; Injured].
No tail cutting or blowing up the moon.

An amplified Makankossapo is more than enough for Piccolo to pierce Gohan.

[apex_pretador]

Vegito vs. Buuhan (No candy beam or absorbing). Base on what we seen so far, who wins?

"THE MOST INVULNERABLE FIGHTER"
is it even a question ?

Piccolo [vs Nappa] vs Oozaru Gohan [vs Vegeta; Injured].

No tail cutting or blowing up the moon.

If piccolo is determined to kill & win, he can, otherwise, he loses pretty bad.

[Khin]

New Matches
- LSSj Broli (Movie 10) and Super Perfect Cell vs. SSj2 Vegeta (Pre Majin) and SSj2 Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- MSSj Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Kaioshin
- MSSj Trunks (Cell Games) vs. SSj Grade 3 Trunks (Post ROSAT 1st time,No speed issues)
- Cell Junior vs. Perfect Cell (Against SSj Grade 2 Vegeta/Trunks)
- SSj Gohan,Kuririn,Tenshinhan,Muten Roshi and Jaco (ROF Arc) vs. Tired Final Form Freeza (After the beating he got from SSjB Vegeta)
- Gohan-Boo (No Candy beam or absorption) vs. Botamo

[Pocket-God]

New Matches
- LSSj Broli (Movie 10) and Super Perfect Cell vs. SSj2 Vegeta (Pre Majin) and SSj2 Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- MSSj Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Kaioshin
- MSSj Trunks (Cell Games) vs. SSj Grade 3 Trunks (Post ROSAT 1st time,No speed issues)
- Cell Junior vs. Perfect Cell (Against SSj Grade 2 Vegeta/Trunks)
- SSj Gohan,Kuririn,Tenshinhan,Muten Roshi and Jaco (ROF Arc) vs. Tired Final Form Freeza (After the beating he got from SSjB Vegeta)
- Gohan-Boo (No Candy beam or absorption) vs. Botamo

Fairly sure Broly can solo this.
Gohan easily, Kaoishin sucks ass.
Either it's a tie or grade 3 takes the win.
Cell :3
Team might take it if they make a good enough plan.
My money's on Buuhan.

[apex_pretador]

New Matches
- LSSj Broli (Movie 10) and Super Perfect Cell vs. SSj2 Vegeta (Pre Majin) and SSj2 Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- MSSj Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Kaioshin
- MSSj Trunks (Cell Games) vs. SSj Grade 3 Trunks (Post ROSAT 1st time,No speed issues)
- Cell Junior vs. Perfect Cell (Against SSj Grade 2 Vegeta/Trunks)
- SSj Gohan,Kuririn,Tenshinhan,Muten Roshi and Jaco (ROF Arc) vs. Tired Final Form Freeza (After the beating he got from SSjB Vegeta)
- Gohan-Boo (No Candy beam or absorption) vs. Botamo

- Gohan or vegeta beats cell barely.
Broly solos due to him not being hurt by anything even slightly weaker than him. Vegeta-gohan can win if they blast him out in a beam struggle with both of their might combined. However, they have use too much energy against cell, so team villains.

- Kaioshin (i have him dead even with bu arc SS goku)

- Trunks .
His grade 3 wins.

- Cell jr is stronger, but cell has better regeneration, and the stamina is much better due to not going all out. Cell uses tayoken & KHH. Cell wins 6/10

- You can add mr buu SUPER buu here and let him absorb his team but freeza still wins easily.

- Gohan buu turns liquid, gets inside buyon's botamo's mouth and blows him up. He has power advantage IMO.

[Roronoa-pt]

Chaozu vs 40 Freeza's soldiers from RoF
After shooting two kamehameha's and one Spirit bomb, a tired Yamcha fights Jaco. Note that Yamcha has a broken arm.
Tenshinhan's Shin Kikoho vs #18
Tsuru-sennin, Cyborg Tao & General Blue vs Muten Roshi ( Rof )
Ginyu, Reecome, Jeice, Burter, Guldo, Dodoria and Zarbon vs Tenshinhan, Kuririn, Yamcha, Chaozu and Muten Roshi.

[apex_pretador]

Chaozu vs 40 Freeza's soldiers from RoF
After shooting two kamehameha's and one Spirit bomb, a tired Yamcha fights Jaco. Note that Yamcha has a broken arm.
Tenshinhan's Shin Kikoho vs #18
Tsuru-sennin, Cyborg Tao & General Blue vs Muten Roshi ( Rof )
Ginyu, Reecome, Jeice, Burter, Guldo, Dodoria and Zarbon vs Tenshinhan, Kuririn, Yamcha, Chaozu and Muten Roshi.

- I bet he can take 100 at once

- Yamcha can have two broken hands & still wins.

- #18 wins by not dying as tien dies

- I have RoF roshi > raditz. Depending upon versions, ginyu changes bodies.

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[apex_pretador]

the biggest battle :

Super Saiyan 3 goku:

Spoiler:

VS

Kid buu:

Spoiler:

Rules:

- Fight on kaioshin planet
- Both are trying their best
- Goku has dead body, and has 5 seconds to power-up even further before fight
- Planet can't be destroyed
- Goku obviously knows about things like absorptions etc.
- No one like Mr satan , dende , mr buu or vegeta present here to help goku
- Goku can't talk to anyone else or tell kaioshin or kai to help making spirit bomb
- Both are serious

GO:

[DanielSSJ]

Chaozu vs 40 Freeza's soldiers from RoF
After shooting two kamehameha's and one Spirit bomb, a tired Yamcha fights Jaco. Note that Yamcha has a broken arm.
Tenshinhan's Shin Kikoho vs #18
Tsuru-sennin, Cyborg Tao & General Blue vs Muten Roshi ( Rof )
Ginyu, Reecome, Jeice, Burter, Guldo, Dodoria and Zarbon vs Tenshinhan, Kuririn, Yamcha, Chaozu and Muten Roshi.

-At this point, Chaozu has a decent shot at beating the full 1,000.
- Don't you mean a broken leg? But yeah, even with all that, Yamcha would probably destroy Jaco.
- #18 gets mildly irritated while she waits for him to run out of stamina and die.
- Roshi from the movie is taking on guys who are at least Raditz-level fighters, and would be several orders or magnitude stronger than Tao Pai Pai, Crane Hermit, and Blue combined.
- Every single one of the good guys (except Roshi and maybe Chaozu) are stronger than Ginyu himself. The Z Fighters curb-stomp.

the biggest battle :

Super Saiyan 3 goku:
Spoiler:View


VS

Kid buu:
Spoiler:View


Rules:

- Fight on kaioshin planet
- Both are trying their best
- Goku has dead body, and has 5 seconds to power-up even further before fight
- Planet can't be destroyed
- Goku obviously knows about things like absorptions etc.
- No one like Mr satan , dende , mr buu or vegeta present here to help goku
- Goku can't talk to anyone else or tell kaioshin or kai to help making spirit bomb
- Both are serious

GO:

Goku and Boo fight at it for a while before Goku charges up a fully powered Kamehameha and finishes Boo off.

[Hellspawn28]

Even base Vegetto finger flicks.

Vegito vs. Buuhan (No candy beam or absorbing). Base on what we seen so far, who wins?

"THE MOST INVULNERABLE FIGHTER"
is it even a question ?

Sorry I meant to say Buuhan vs. Botamo. Sorry I must have Vegito on my mind when I wrote that post. So who wins? If it's too one sided then let SSj Vegito instead.

[apex_pretador]

Even base Vegetto finger flicks.

Vegito vs. Buuhan (No candy beam or absorbing). Base on what we seen so far, who wins?

"THE MOST INVULNERABLE FIGHTER"
is it even a question ?

Sorry I meant to say Buuhan vs. Botamo. Sorry I must have Vegito on my mind when I wrote that post. So who wins? If it's too one sided then let SSj Vegito instead.

in that case,

- Gohan-Boo (No Candy beam or absorption) vs. Botamo

- Gohan buu turns liquid, gets inside buyon's botamo's mouth and blows him up. He has power advantage IMO.

[Khin]

Sorry I meant to say Buuhan vs. Botamo. Sorry I must have Vegito on my mind when I wrote that post. So who wins? If it's too one sided then let SSj Vegito instead.

Botamo finger flicks both Gohan-Boo and Super Vegetto at the same time.

[pacz360]

Sorry I meant to say Buuhan vs. Botamo. Sorry I must have Vegito on my mind when I wrote that post. So who wins? If it's too one sided then let SSj Vegito instead.

Botamo finger flicks both Gohan-Boo and Super Vegetto at the same time.

What make's you say that?

[DBZAOTA482]

Sorry I meant to say Buuhan vs. Botamo. Sorry I must have Vegito on my mind when I wrote that post. So who wins? If it's too one sided then let SSj Vegito instead.

Botamo finger flicks both Gohan-Boo and Super Vegetto at the same time.

What make's you say that?

He gave Godku some difficulty.

Anyhow...

Chi-Chi runs a gauntlet

Chi-Chi is healed to full health after each match.

1. Videl

2. BODB Goku

3. Nam

4. 21st Goku

5. Tao Pai Pai (Organic)

6. Tambourine

7. 22nd Goku

8. 40% Old Piccolo Daimao

9. Old Piccolo Daimao (Full Power)

10. Initial Young Piccolo Daimao

11. Cyborg Tao

[Khin]

Sorry I meant to say Buuhan vs. Botamo. Sorry I must have Vegito on my mind when I wrote that post. So who wins? If it's too one sided then let SSj Vegito instead.

Botamo finger flicks both Gohan-Boo and Super Vegetto at the same time.

What make's you say that?

Despite being one sided match,he almost caught Base Goku,not only that,he isn't even fazed by Base Goku's attacks and Base Goku >>>>> Super Vegetto.